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Possessed Khorne Marine Covered in Spikes






Portland, Oregon

I set up a deal with Danny/angelofdeath8950, to trade for 2 Ork Trukks and 5 Mega Armored Orks [everything was in great shape and almost brand new].
In exchange I was to receive a set of older edition Hive Tyrant, Carnifex, Zoey, Lictor, several Warriors, Genestealers and a large number of Gants. A Biovore was in the box as well as parts to a second Tyrant I was not aware was in the deal. The Biovore looked new, but the Tyrant looks like a hacksaw ripped through it.

What I got was a pile, literally, wrapped in bubble wrap like a basketball, broken mess of models.

Hive Tyrant's plastic arms broken or missing, No weapons, nothing.
Genestealers torn off bases. Some so poorly assembled, some had their arms on upside down.
Warriors missing weapons, heads and arms.
30 or so Gants [termi/hormi] broken off their pegs, most of them broken off at the knee with feet missing.

I contact him as soon as I see it and wait for a reply. At 4 in the morning he replies apologizing that his daughter shipped them and that he HAS BEEN in the Bahamas and would be for another week or more. Yet, the night previous he was at home texting me about how happy It was to trade with me and the previous 3 nights saying he was at work at a nuclear power plant. He even sent me a pic of the package and shipping label on my phone I have pics on my phone that don't look like the models I got [they were whole].

He text me every day until I shipped, asking for shipping and tracking info. He didn't trust me with his models.

I sent him everything he asked for, then communications stopped.

The next day I got the box of destroyed models and now excuses that he wasn't even home.

I admit I am angry, but this is crap to do this to another member.

I want the box I sent returned, unopened, and in my possession before I return a single bit of his end of the deal. I expect him to pay to get his models back as well.


This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2012/11/27 01:58:25


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Made in ca
Honored Helliarch on Hypex





Canada

 lictors_lovemachine wrote:
I set up a deal with Danny/angelofdeath8950, to trade for 2 Ork Trukks and 5 Mega Armored Orks [everything was in great shape and almost brand new].
In exchange I was to receive a set of older edition Hive Tyrant, Carnifex, Zoey, Lictor, several Warriors, Genestealers and a large number of Gants. A Biovore was in the box as well as parts to a second Tyrant I was not aware was in the deal. The Biovore looked new, but the Tyrant looks like a hacksaw ripped through it.

What I got was a pile, literally, wrapped in bubble wrap like a basketball, broken mess of models.

Hive Tyrant's plastic arms broken or missing, No weapons, nothing.
Genestealers torn off bases. Some so poorly assembled, some had their arms on upside down.
Warriors missing weapons, heads and arms.
30 or so Gants [termi/hormi] broken off their pegs, most of them broken off at the knee with feet missing.

I contact him as soon as I see it and wait for a reply. At 4 in the morning he replies apologizing that his daughter shipped them and that he HAS BEEN in the Bahamas and would be for another week or more. Yet, the night previous he was at home texting me about how happy It was to trade with me and the previous 3 nights saying he was at work at a nuclear power plant. He even sent me a pic of the package and shipping label on my phone I have pics on my phone that don't look like the models I got [they were whole].

He text me every day until I shipped, asking for shipping and tracking info. He didn't trust me with his models.

I sent him everything he asked for, then communications stopped.

The next day I got the box of destroyed models and now excuses that he wasn't even home.

I admit I am angry, but this is crap to do this to another member.

I want the box I sent returned, unopened, and in my possession before I return a single bit of his end of the deal. I expect him to pay to get his models back as well.




Ever heard the expression 'if it seems too good to be true, it is?'

The trade set off red flags the moment you said what you traded for. When someone is trading you that heavily in your favour, something is wrong. :(
   
Made in ca
Devious Space Marine dedicated to Tzeentch





I feel incline to disagree with IdentifyZero as I have had trades largely in my favor before, howeve following Dakkas suggested repercussions might have been favorable. I'm sure Lictor has more trades then who he traded with, which means the other person should have shipped first, this would have made the trade go smoother, also it helps to get pictures taken with a card beside them with the date and who it's being traded with, as you then know the models are actually in their possession, it is unfortunate that this has happened to you, and what you are demanding of the person your trade to is only fair, it is unlikely he will see it that way when confronted and demanded to pay for fees to send models back out of his own pocket.

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Made in us
Possessed Khorne Marine Covered in Spikes






Portland, Oregon

I see both of your points. Thanks guys.

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Made in ca
Devious Space Marine dedicated to Tzeentch





Try to work a deal with him and stay civil and you may receive your models back, with a model for model trade there's no "authority" that can step in as a mediator, so you'll need to work with the tradee in hopes of receiving what you sent. Again, unfortunate to have happened to you, but also will be a reminder in future trades to be more cautious.

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Made in us
Freaky Flayed One





Virginia Beach, VA

As another Nuclear Reactor Operator, I apologize on behalf of this no-good-nik.

   
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Possessed Khorne Marine Covered in Spikes






Portland, Oregon

So, a month now and the only message I get is 'too bad', I'm not dealing with you.

Fraud charges have been filed with the police in his hometown in his name.

Heading to the post office to file a claim against him.

I messed him a couple of times asking if he was home yet or if we could talk.


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Made in us
Sinewy Scourge





Commoragh (closer to the bottom)

How old is this person? sounds like he was planning this all along

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Death-Dealing Dark Angels Devastator




Point Marion, Pennsylvania

DaKKaLAnce wrote:
How old is this person? sounds like he was planning this all along


If they claim to work for a nuclear power company, I'd imagine it's not a kid. Unless the job is part of the scam.
   
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Fresh-Faced New User




Out of curiosity did you ask him for pics of the models before he shipped?

I will admit this deal does sound too good to be true

Try messaging him on facebook or call him(not from your number of course)

Sickens me that people like this exist
   
Made in ca
One Canoptek Scarab in a Swarm





ALWAYS ask for pics. ALWAYS!!! Also,this deal seem to good. There had to be a scam here.

 
   
Made in us
Possessed Khorne Marine Covered in Spikes






Portland, Oregon

Update: Last message I got from the guy a couple moths ago that I just read, said "F**K you Tim, you aren't getting anything."

I stand by: People suck.

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Made in us
Longtime Dakkanaut





Florida

Maybe you should focus on the transaction report against you instead of bringing up that you got a message ''a few months ago''.

   
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Jovial Plaguebearer of Nurgle





North Carolina

Was this guy from CA?


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I hate it when people blame the victim.

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Not as Good as a Minion






Brisbane

Rotgut has a point, this was a thread necro for no new information when instead he should have answered another transaction report.

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Spawn of Chaos




Nederland, Texas

Personally, I dont even start negotiating until I see pictures. I never considered the dated card "to make sure they have the models in their possession" but it doesnt seem like a bad idea.

Was there another Transaction Report concerning this transaction? Thats what it sounds like if I am reading the replies correctly.

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Decrepit Dakkanaut






 Haeslich wrote:
Personally, I dont even start negotiating until I see pictures. I never considered the dated card "to make sure they have the models in their possession" but it doesnt seem like a bad idea.

Was there another Transaction Report concerning this transaction? Thats what it sounds like if I am reading the replies correctly.


No, posters are referring to the necro bumping of this thread with a no actual news update by lictor when he's got a transaction report against him here in the past week that he hasn't responded to. He posted in the bad trader report on bartertown filed against him last month but not the new report here.

   
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This thread isn't going anywhere so is being locked for the time being. As others have suggested, I recommend the OP make sure his own house is in order before accusing/demanding things of others:

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/510261.page

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