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What are the best guns to put on them for anti-air?

TL LC's.

Thats what I was thinking, will probably end up running three of them

Lascannons. And unless you want to reroll cover saves, don't squadron them. They're already twin-linked, and sticking them in single model units largely solves their leadership issues.

That is a lot of kill points if you keep them all separate though.

Is it worth buying extra crew?

I don't think the crew are worth it, but they're not exactly going to break the bank, either. It largely depends on how many spare points you've got in your list, and most loyalist armies tend to work in multiples of five. As such, I avoid them.

As far as kill points go, 5/6 of your games are objectives. Only 1/6 will count troops as kill points. I didn't care about killpoints in fifth, and I'm sure not going to start now! =D

DevianID wrote:
Is it worth buying extra crew?

IMO, yes. They're cheap and it's an extra wound before the gun takes any. Deploy the guns with one crew model behind it and one in front, so you have a 50% increase in the gun's durability (keeping one behind since you need a surviving crew model to shoot). And it gets even better when you have multiple guns in the unit, since your opponent will have to kill 2-3 crew models before they can even start to hurt the guns.

Plus you are t7 on the lead models right? And they can't run from losing crew?

Edit: is there an upper limit to how many before its too many? With the ability to engage all targets, low cost, high durability, high accuracy anti everything nature, all that is missing is anti infantry as these cover everything else.

 Peregrine wrote:

DevianID wrote:
Is it worth buying extra crew?

IMO, yes. They're cheap and it's an extra wound before the gun takes any. Deploy the guns with one crew model behind it and one in front, so you have a 50% increase in the gun's durability (keeping one behind since you need a surviving crew model to shoot). And it gets even better when you have multiple guns in the unit, since your opponent will have to kill 2-3 crew models before they can even start to hurt the guns.

That sounds like a cool idea, but wouldn't it force the Sabre Battery to take leadership tests? Ld7 isn't exactly reliable...

Corollax wrote:

 Peregrine wrote:

DevianID wrote:
Is it worth buying extra crew?

IMO, yes. They're cheap and it's an extra wound before the gun takes any. Deploy the guns with one crew model behind it and one in front, so you have a 50% increase in the gun's durability (keeping one behind since you need a surviving crew model to shoot). And it gets even better when you have multiple guns in the unit, since your opponent will have to kill 2-3 crew models before they can even start to hurt the guns.

That sounds like a cool idea, but wouldn't it force the Sabre Battery to take leadership tests? Ld7 isn't exactly reliable...

Better to take a leadership test than to lose the guns. Assuming you've given them good cover T7/4+ isn't much worse than T7/3+, so if you're taking enough crew losses to force a morale check you probably would have lost at least one of the guns anyway. And if you're using a significant static element you probably have a commissar/standard/etc to help their leadership.

Yeah I don't see KP's being as important in 6th as they were before so maybe I'll try single man teams in a game to see how they work

 Peregrine wrote:
Better to take a leadership test than to lose the guns. Assuming you've given them good cover T7/4+ isn't much worse than T7/3+, so if you're taking enough crew losses to force a morale check you probably would have lost at least one of the guns anyway. And if you're using a significant static element you probably have a commissar/standard/etc to help their leadership.

Forgive me if I'm wrong, but isn't a single death sufficient to force a morale test? Stubborn doesn't help in this scenario, and even a Regimental Standard will only get you an 82.6% success rate (58.3% base). It'd be rather unfortunate to lose your sabre batteries prematurely just because of a failed leadership test.

Corollax wrote:

 Peregrine wrote:
Better to take a leadership test than to lose the guns. Assuming you've given them good cover T7/4+ isn't much worse than T7/3+, so if you're taking enough crew losses to force a morale check you probably would have lost at least one of the guns anyway. And if you're using a significant static element you probably have a commissar/standard/etc to help their leadership.

Forgive me if I'm wrong, but isn't a single death sufficient to force a morale test? Stubborn doesn't help in this scenario, and even a Regimental Standard will only get you an 82.6% success rate (58.3% base). It'd be rather unfortunate to lose your sabre batteries prematurely just because of a failed leadership test.

If you only have one crew member, a single death is sufficient to rid you of the gun.

So a 58.3% chance to keep the gun if you lose a guy is better than 0%.

But of course, we wouldn't be putting the lone crewman in front if we're not taking the additional crew upgrade.

Take 5 crewmen. They've got to kill 2. Put 1 crewmen up front, then a gun. It takes at least 4 wounds vs T7 to force a break test. 150 points for 3 twin-linked lascannons that are T7 is pretty rad.

-Matt

I thought sabres had 2 crew and no options to buy more, didn't see the option for extra crew on the gun. How many extra crew per gun can be taken, and are the regular guardsmen cost.

Nah one crew...according to aeronautica anyway