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Seems I didn't make this rumour up after all:
http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?catId=cat440161a&prodId=prod1950012a

Death From The Skies

Death from the Skies brings the white-knuckle intensity of aerial combat in the 41st Millennium to your tabletop, featuring selected material from White Dwarf magazine, the Crusade of Fire supplement and exclusive new content. Exclusively available from games-workshop.com, this 72-page, full colour softback compendium book is crammed with background information, gaming ideas and hobby inspiration to help you bring the battle for air superiority to life.

It includes: a detailed account of the Battle for Cardrim, featuring White Scars Space Marines, Necrons and Orks locked in a deadly battle for control of a vital airfield; four new Air War missions that showcase the lightning-fast nature of aerial warfare; optional rules for dogfighting and veteran fighter aces for your Warhammer 40,000 games; and a showcase of beautifully painted Flyers from the 'Eavy Metal collection.

There are rules for using the Stormraven Gunship with a Codex: Space Marines and Black Templars army; updated rules for the range of Warhammer 40,000 Flyer models, including new bestiary and army list entries for the following codexes: Black Templars, Blood Angels, Dark Eldar, Grey Knights, Imperial Guard, Necrons, Orks and Space Marines.

Please note: Death from the Skies is available in English language only.


Death From The Skies £ 20.00

Also released so-called one click bundles:

Flight of the Valkyries ( two Imperial Guard Valkyries and two metal Imperial Guard Cadian Kasrkin Squads) £ 133.00
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Stormraven Domination Force (a Stormraven Gunship, a Dreadnought and a Tactical Squad) £ 101.00
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Burning Skies (two Chaos Heldrakes) £ 90.00
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Caliban's Wrath (two Ravenwing Dark Talon kits) £ 90.00
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Skyhammer Squadron (three Stormtalon Gunships) £ 82.50
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Razorwing Murder Squadron (three Razorwing Jetfighters) £ 82.50
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Da Fly Boyz (three Ork Bommers) £ 82.50
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Necron Annihilation Wing (two boxes of Necron Night Scythes) £ 55.00
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Old post before official confirmation

A new 40k supplement book will be released on 16th February:
"Death from the Skies" (26€, mail order only, chance of being in English only).
More when I know more. But it certainly sounds like a flyer supplement.

Here the cover thanks to Lorizael:


Edit (copied from this thread):
 Malthor wrote:
English only is correct, also if I recall correctly it will at least introduce the Storm Raven to Black Templars and Vanilla SM, maybe also the Storm Talon to the Templars.

DarkWarrior1981 over at Warseer wrote:This is not as exciting as people may think. I saw the advert for the book at a local store; It contains only rules for fliers still on sale or with a codex entry (the Dark Eldar bomber is in), some fliers have their rules updated to 6th edition (whatever this means exactly). The only thing actually new is, that the Stormraven is now available to Codex Space Marines and Black Templars as well. Also you will find the flier rules from Crusade of Fire and new missions. The book will be on sale (no pre-order) from 16th of February, is direct only (so not from your FLGS), english language only and will not be limited stock.

 Lorizael wrote:
My sources say this will be a 70 page "compendium".

It will have updated 6th edition rules for flyers:

Stormraven (now available to space marines and BT)
Storm Talon
Ork Bomba / dakka jet / burna bomba
Valkyrie / vendetta
Razorwing & Voide Raven
Night Scythe / doom scythe

also dog fighting rules from crusade of fire and a new flyers scenario.
(...)
I'm told this book will be a range item and not a limited release.

faeit212 wrote:OK readers, its now official. I have the information for what will be in Death from the Skies and of course I am sharing all of it that I am allowed to. Here are the details.

No longer a rumor. Even I had concerns the image above was photoshop'd, but it is the real cover. There are no flyer releases listed out from what I have seen. Hopefully next month?

I also wonder which version of the Stormraven codex Space Marines and Black Templar will be able to use.

Death From the Skies (Direct only – Range item) 60040199031
sale through Direct on Saturday 16th February (no advanced order)
•A 72p full colour, softback, Warhammer 40,000 Compendium
•Contains a fantastic showcase of flyers available to collectors, beautifully painted by the ‘Eavy Metal team
•Contains all the updated 6th Edition rules for the following Flyers:
- Stormraven (that can now be used in Codex: Space Marines and Codex: Black Templars) and Stormtalon Gunship
- Valkyrie and Vendetta
- Ork Dakka Jet, Burna Bommer and Blitza Bommer
- Necron Night Scythe and Doom Scythe
- Dark Eldar Razorwing and Void Raven

•Includes the rules for the Space Marine Stormtalon Gunship and Ork Bommer previously available in WD
•Contains cool new content – new scenarios as well as the Dog-fighting rules from Crusade of Fire
•This compendium will be promoted on the web and by the blog
•English language only
•Please note: This product will go out of stock for short periods if demand is high

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Wow, that's a surprise - a new supplement book with rules so that people can field more and more flyers. They really are pushing flyers this ed, aren't they?

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Maybe they could release flyers for those races lacking in that department.

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So January/Mid February of Fliers?

Guess no Daemons...

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And a book with the rules for some flyers already released that arent available in print (looking at you stormtalon and ork flyer)

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 Melcavuk wrote:
And a book with the rules for some flyers already released that arent available in print (looking at you stormtalon and ork flyer)

That was my first thought. About effing time..!
   
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Would be more interested if it included new flyers. Tau and Eldar are still waiting. Saying SoB should get also one is a long lost cause that is not even a realistic option.

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 Melcavuk wrote:
And a book with the rules for some flyers already released that arent available in print (looking at you stormtalon and ork flyer)


Not that this will help, since it will probably be another limited release and sell out within a day, at which point you can either buy an ipad and the digital copy or pirate it just like you have to pirate the existing flyer rules if you don't own an ipad.

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As a man who probably owns more flyers than most, including superheavy ones, across three different factions, as well as someone who shelled out for an Aegis line and three Forgeworld Hydra kits, I can honestly say I have no desire to play this after 6 months of 6E and it's poorly implemented Flyer rules.


Being horrifically letdown with Battle Missions, Crusade of Fire, and Planetstrike also doesn't help.

I only hope it helps address some of the imbalance in normal games.

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 Vaktathi wrote:
As a man who probably owns more flyers than most, including superheavy ones, across three different factions, as well as someone who shelled out for an Aegis line and three Forgeworld Hydra kits, I can honestly say I have no desire to play this after 6 months of 6E and it's poorly implemented Flyer rules.


Being horrifically letdown with Battle Missions, Crusade of Fire, and Planetstrike also doesn't help.

I only hope it helps address some of the imbalance in normal games.


You have no desire to play something you know little to nothing about? How open-minded of you.

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I sure hope they printed the rules for Stormtalons and Ork fliers. I shudder at all the gamers who got one of those model kits home and found out that they can;t access any of the rules required to field them.



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I have no desire for a flyer oriented expansion based on the quality of previous expansions and the way they function under the current core ruleset.

Unless the way this works is radically different both in a rules sense and in terms of GW's operating methodology, I don't see why I'd be interested.

The evidence I have to go on, as a consumer, based on current rules and past releases, means this product does nothing to pique my interest.


And, as the 40k universe will tell you, an open mind is like a fortress with it's gates unbarred and unguarded

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English only is correct, also if I recall correctly it will at least introduce the Storm Raven to Black Templars and Vanilla SM, maybe also the Storm Talon to the Templars.
   
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whoadirty wrote:
 Vaktathi wrote:
As a man who probably owns more flyers than most, including superheavy ones, across three different factions, as well as someone who shelled out for an Aegis line and three Forgeworld Hydra kits, I can honestly say I have no desire to play this after 6 months of 6E and it's poorly implemented Flyer rules.


Being horrifically letdown with Battle Missions, Crusade of Fire, and Planetstrike also doesn't help.

I only hope it helps address some of the imbalance in normal games.


You have no desire to play something you know little to nothing about? How open-minded of you.


Unless there some hugh changes to the flyer rules, we know a lot about what the product will bring.

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 Malthor wrote:
English only is correct, also if I recall correctly it will at least introduce the Storm Raven to Black Templars and Vanilla SM, maybe also the Storm Talon to the Templars.


Not holding my breath. But GW will be making 80 something bucks from me if BT gets a Stormraven. (and Chapterhouse gets a few for the conversion)

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I'm happy. I want more and better Flyers for my Tyranids. I just hope this is characterized as a "patch" for the game rather than an "optional expansion".

It would be sweet if this book also included new AA fortifications (even if they're not released at the time of printing).

Any chance this book recalibrates some extant offenders, like the Vendetta?
   
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I'm happy. I want more and better Flyers for my Tyranids. I just hope this is characterized as a "patch" for the game rather than an "optional expansion".

It would be sweet if this book also included new AA fortifications (even if they're not released at the time of printing).

Any chance this book recalibrates some extant offenders, like the Vendetta?
Likely zero as GW has a longstanding policy of not changing rules until the next codex update. It took them almost three years to unify SM equipment so that we didn't have three different versions of stormshields and PotMS floating around.

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A patch would be good. Something so that we can at least avoid some kind of ridiculous nonsense like, I dunno....

The most highly trained super-soldier, a specialist in heavy weapons, genetically engineered to be better than the best, in the most high-tech imaginable armour, wielding a heavy laser cannon, braced in a good firing position...

being no more likely to hit a low-flying aircraft than a running ork is.

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The other SM chapters could have talked the DA in sharing their fancy AA-rocket launchers I guess
   
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 Vaktathi wrote:
Altruizine wrote:
I'm happy. I want more and better Flyers for my Tyranids. I just hope this is characterized as a "patch" for the game rather than an "optional expansion".

It would be sweet if this book also included new AA fortifications (even if they're not released at the time of printing).

Any chance this book recalibrates some extant offenders, like the Vendetta?
Likely zero as GW has a longstanding policy of not changing rules until the next codex update. It took them almost three years to unify SM equipment so that we didn't have three different versions of stormshields and PotMS floating around.

It does seem rather unlikely. But, then again, the latest rumour before today maintained that the flyer wave would only consist of four new units. They're going to have to devise a hell of a lot of scenarios and special rules to fill up that 26€ book if the bestiary (or, rather, the hangar) only consists of four units. Although I suppose they might just reprint the existent flyer rules without any addenda.

Who is familiar with Storm of Magic? I know there were some units included in there that overlapped with preexisting ones from specific armies (Hydra, Trolls, Giants, etc. come to mind). Were any of those units modified, or were they all exactly the same as their armybook counterparts?
   
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We are talking about a book a bit cheaper than Planetstrike (maybe £20.00 or so), so the book is thin and not hardcover like SOM.

BTW not the first time, that model releases from second half of the month were kept secret from WD and traders, so I wouldn't completely rule out some flyers (e.g. the 4 rumoured ones) being released, say, 23rd February, although I am just guessing. Remember the trench box?

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 Malthor wrote:
English only is correct, also if I recall correctly it will at least introduce the Storm Raven to Black Templars and Vanilla SM, maybe also the Storm Talon to the Templars.


DA could really use a better flyer so I hope they make the ST accessible to them.


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 Ministry wrote:
 Malthor wrote:
English only is correct, also if I recall correctly it will at least introduce the Storm Raven to Black Templars and Vanilla SM, maybe also the Storm Talon to the Templars.


DA could really use a better flyer so I hope they make the ST accessible to them.


Jesus Christ........gets a brand new codex and a ton of models and still isnt happy............



So is this going to be another mail-only fiasco like Crusade of Fire? Because as usual, GW doesnt say a word about their upcoming releases, and Im not buying the damn thing if it doesnt benefit me. Im not paying $160 whatever it is for a paperweight if I still dont get flyers. Going to stay glued to this thread for leaks and I will absolutely preorder it when I get confirmation of BT flyers.

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I think I'm in the same boat as d3m01iti0n here, if it doesn't benefit me, as in no Eldar or BT, I won't be getting it.

EDIT: Ministry, Jeez guy! You got a brand new codex, be bloody happy because there was a whole load more codices that needed it more.

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 Ministry wrote:
 Malthor wrote:
English only is correct, also if I recall correctly it will at least introduce the Storm Raven to Black Templars and Vanilla SM, maybe also the Storm Talon to the Templars.


DA could really use a better flyer so I hope they make the ST accessible to them.


Who knows, but I don't think so,if they wanted the DA to have them they would've been in the codex. I'll try to find out a bit more about the flyer availability tomorrow, maybe there's hope my Wolves maybe also get access to the fliers, I'd really ike a SR with Wolfstrike missiles
   
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A supplement that brings flier models/rules to armies that don't have them would be nice, especially since they aren't doing WD rules updates anymore. I would much rather see a free pdf download of the rules and refocus on balancing/playtesting rules and updating models.

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 d3m01iti0n wrote:
 Ministry wrote:
 Malthor wrote:
English only is correct, also if I recall correctly it will at least introduce the Storm Raven to Black Templars and Vanilla SM, maybe also the Storm Talon to the Templars.


DA could really use a better flyer so I hope they make the ST accessible to them.


Jesus Christ........gets a brand new codex and a ton of models and still isnt happy............



The new DA flyers are great looking models but statistically they are absolute rubbish for their points cost. We need a competitive flyer like the Helldrake or Vendetta, or the Stormtalon....


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The Dark Angels Flyers aren't rubbish. They're not stupendously amazing, but they're entirely useable.

The problem is that the Vendetta and Stormraven/Stormtalon were initially designed and costed as Skimmers, not flyers. Thus, they're overarmored and undercosted as a result of being hamfisted into a new edition.

Hell, they even have fluff on why the Valkyrie/Vendetta was AV12 and a skimmer instead of a flyer, it was explained that when operating in close support it was up-armored and overburdened. Then it all went out the window.

The Heldrake is the only exception, and as a Chaos player, I'll be the first to admit it can use some toning down, but may also have been designed initially under the previous paradigm and not properly adjusted for 6E either.



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 l0k1 wrote:
A supplement that brings flier models/rules to armies that don't have them would be nice, especially since they aren't doing WD rules updates anymore.

GW: "We heard a lot of criticism that essential flyer rules were in WDs that immediately sold out. We took your criticism to heart and rerelease them in a limited edition supplement immediately selling out."

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