Combined arms IG - another go

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**kaiservonhugal**

Ok - this list has a few toys. I do think each serves a purpose and breaks up the monotony of a static gun line without losing too much in effectiveness.

8 Deathwatch Kill Team @ 354 Pts
Meltagun (x1)
1 Deathwatch Captain, Bolt Pistol; Power Weapon (x1); Frag Grenades; Melta-Bombs; True Grit
1 Deathwatch Veteran, Bolter & Power Fist
1 Rhino, Smoke Launchers

Command Platoon, 81 Pts

Hellhound, Pintle Heavy Stubber; Inferno Cannon; Hull Heavy Bolter

Leman Russ Battle Tank ; Hull Heavy Bolter

Infantry Platoon, Junior Officer, Iron Discipline
Infantry Squad,Close Order Drill; Plasma Gun; Lascannon
Infantry Squad,Close Order Drill; Plasma Gun; Lascannon
Infantry Squad,Close Order Drill; Plasma Gun; Lascannon

Griffon Mortar Carrier; Improved Comms

Salamander Scout, Autocannon; Heavy Bolter; Pintle Heavy Stubber; Smoke Launchers

Changes I will make if consensus mandates it is to lose the death watch and the salamander. I can replace these with another hellhound (3 total) and 2 Armoured fist units with autcannon, plasma gun, vet sergeant (these guys will move to adjacent quadrents and take side armour shots and could use the leadership boost), chimerae with heavy stubbers (these distract shots from hellhounds which are amazing).

My thoughts on the deathwatch are as a counter assualt unit - to give my backfield a little respect. This has served well and does act as a deterrent. The Salamander is purely there for variety - I plan to deploy it in cover and line up shots on where I think Landspeeders will finally end up. Also it can zip 24 inches each turn 5 and 6 to find cover and secure a quadrant. The griffon is good - there are times when I wish I had the range and ap of a bassie but its a good platform none the less.

I know I post alot of guard lists - please be patient as I find a list that works

**Janthkin**

Lose the Deathwatch. That's TWO armored fists' worth of points there (or an AF & Hellhound, as mentioned, but you'd lose the Salamander). I, too, like the nature of the Salamander. I can't always find points for it, but adding a Fast vehicle to a Guard list isn't a bad thing.

**kaiservonhugal**

I know its the right thing too do - but I like having a unit that adds something more than just more of the same.

**bigchris1313**

I know its the right thing too do - but I like having a unit that adds something more than just more of the same.

As long as you accept that you're taking a non-optomized list.

**stecal**

Hey, if you want your guard to move about why not use drop troops and/or vets/light infantry for infiltrators.

**kaiservonhugal**

Ill drop the DeathWatch, keep the Salamnder with a heavy stubber and add 2 Armoured fist with Vet sergeants, autocannon, plasma guns in chimerae with heavy stubbers. Effeciency tells me to drop the Sallie as well and go with the 3rd Hellhound.