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What you fail to recognize is when your attitude alienates people from the beginning, your jokes are going to fall flat.

You're not reading the room correctly.

Word Bearers should be the poster boys of the Chaos Space Marines.

I hate it when people recommend a certain color to add onto my models in order to make it "pop." If that's your only advice then I immediately assume you don't know what the hell you're talking about.

 Crimson Devil wrote:
What you fail to recognize is when your attitude alienates people from the beginning, your jokes are going to fall flat.

You're not reading the room correctly.

Oh, it was a joke. And it wasn't hilarious, but it was a joke and that's the point.

Given the list of criteria, you'll have to excuse me- if said types of persons are bothered by what I say, then I'm perfectly fine with their alienation. The people I listed as being toxic- well, let's just say if they think I'm a terrible person and go to great lengths to avoid me then this is a feature and not a bug, the system is working as intended. I hope you're not under the impression that I'm trying to win over the sorts of people I mentioned, because it's quite the opposite.

If so, you're not reading me correctly.

And I'm sorry, but there's absolutely no way a reasonable human being would have looked at the statement and taken it literally.

You really do need to make the joke clear or better yet save time and just don’t bother. They are very poor quality jokes. This whole page has been an unpleasant display of bad manners on your part Doritos man. When you make such assertions about others you set your self up for a fall from grace. I’d rather game with a pleasant smelly person than an arrogant bloke smelling like roses. There isn’t an emoji for the face your comments produced on me, somewhere between baffled at what I was reading and tasting something a bit off.

Andykp wrote:
You really do need to make the joke clear or better yet save time and just don’t bother. They are very poor quality jokes. This whole page has been an unpleasant display of bad manners on your part Doritos man. When you make such assertions about others you set your self up for a fall from grace. I’d rather game with a pleasant smelly person than an arrogant bloke smelling like roses. There isn’t an emoji for the face your comments produced on me, somewhere between baffled at what I was reading and tasting something a bit off.

Well, if that's what upsets you- thank you for letting me know that my personal standards of what I will tolerate from others is effective enough to drive away the exact sort of people I don't want anywhere near me.

You've done me wonders by helping.

Absolutely nothing I said was unwarranted. The only way to be offended by my criteria, was to fit the criteria. Fact.

 Adeptus Doritos wrote:
So, yeah- then a bit of shaming works. And if you can't understand how effective public shaming is, then you're probably in no place to call someone 'uneducated'... or you've at least not been paying attention to the effectiveness of Social Media's Shaming Fetish and how it compliments the Outrage Fetish.

Public shaming is usually only effective in making sure people hide the shamed behavior better, not in changing it. For example, do you really think a person who goes on a racist diatribe on public media is going to have their opinion changed by people down-voting them, shaming them, and making death threats toward them? It is more likely that their views will become even more entrenched and they simply refrain from making public statements in the future, pushing the problem under the rug so to speak. Applying this to the issue of "smelly 40k neckbeards", as you pointed out, they will just do something like spray on axe thinking it "covers" or "masks" the problem without really addressing the underlying issue.

I also tend to think of public shaming as a juvenile behavior more befitting high school teenagers rather than adults, and think using public shaming as a mechanism to enforce social compliance is as outdated and immoral as using lynch mobs to enforce legal justice. I absolutely disagree and am disgusted by current trends toward this behavior in social media.

 Adeptus Doritos wrote:

Andykp wrote:
You really do need to make the joke clear or better yet save time and just don’t bother. They are very poor quality jokes. This whole page has been an unpleasant display of bad manners on your part Doritos man. When you make such assertions about others you set your self up for a fall from grace. I’d rather game with a pleasant smelly person than an arrogant bloke smelling like roses. There isn’t an emoji for the face your comments produced on me, somewhere between baffled at what I was reading and tasting something a bit off.

Well, if that's what upsets you- thank you for letting me know that my personal standards of what I will tolerate from others is effective enough to drive away the exact sort of people I don't want anywhere near me.

You've done me wonders by helping.

Absolutely nothing I said was unwarranted. The only way to be offended by my criteria, was to fit the criteria. Fact.

I don’t fit your criteria at all. Not one of them. And you haven’t driven me away. It’s very unlikely we would ever meet anyway. But most of all I’m not offended by you. I just find your attitude arrogant and unpleasant. I’m in no way hurt or upset just felt the need to let some one know he was being arrogant and not impressing anyone. I can only assume you are trying to be cool. It’s failing. U are just coming across as an unpleasant person.


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The thing that has surprised me most is looking at your profile is that you are at least in your twenties. If you were 15 it would at least explain your bravado.

w1zard wrote:
Public shaming is usually only effective in making sure people hide the shamed behavior better, not in changing it.

Oh, you misinterpret me. I don't care if they change it. It'd be great if they did. But if they have those behaviors away from me and hide it, it's still a win for me. And most people.

Still not sure how a list of things summarized and simplified as:

-People who place their own recreation as a priority above caring for themselves and respecting the comfort (and health) of others
-People who constantly whine about everything in the game while talking down on those that are enjoying themselves
-Degrading other people while having the exact same characteristics
-People that deliberately create division in recreational activities
-Deliberately defending cheaters and scammers

...how anything on that list can be defensible. Call them neckbeards, call them losers, call them a bag of boogers in the California sun and slap a Rasin label on them for all I care. Those are, by definition, toxic behaviors... and to be honest, however you choose to deal with them is on you, but 'intolerance' for those things kinda should be the default setting, man.


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Andykp wrote:
I just find your attitude arrogant and unpleasant. I’m in no way hurt or upset just felt the need to let some one know he was being arrogant and not impressing anyone. I can only assume you are trying to be cool. It’s failing. U are just coming across as an unpleasant person.

I'm trying to be relatively normal. Most people are very much on the same level of tolerance. Maybe not on these sites, but yeah- it's pretty standard.

And you think I'm an unpleasant person? Okay. Perfect. Arrogant? No, the word you want to use is "certain".




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Andykp wrote:
I don’t fit your criteria at all. Not one of them.

Then by all means, please- explain to me what about it bothers you or has you so upset that you find it 'wrong'. I'm completely baffled that some very reasonable things to be disgusted by are somehow abnormal or terrible.

I haven’t claimed to upset and haven’t said I find you saying these things wrong. I am the kind of person who dislikes and feels the need to confront bullies, and that mate is how U are coming across on here. You may not be in real life, it may be bravado and trying to be cool but it’s certainly childish and unpleasant. Maybe in the circles you move in this behaviour is the norm, but if it is, as I said I would rather hang out with smelly nice people. And trust me, arrogant is the word. A certain kind of something maybe but such language isn’t allowed on here.

My unpopular opinion is that this back and forth. tit for tat discussion is unhelpful especially after I posted a warning in this thread. So it is now closed.
Thanks,
ingtaer.