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 Overread wrote:

Toofast wrote:

 Flinty wrote:
held aloft by gravitic drives the like of which are long lost to the Techpriests of the 41st Millenium.

They had no problem with gravitic drives for speeders, hover tanks, and all the other ridiculous crap the space marines have, but they can't find them for jetbikes? Literally just use 1 from a repulsor and make it smaller...

My local Mechanicus Priest informs me that you can't simply make things smaller. The Machine Spirit can only be contained with a vessel of suitable size. Making the machine smaller would crush the spirit of the machine and cause it to wither and suffer. Such abuse of the Machine Spirit is not tolerable.

Magos Cawl disagrees.

SamusDrake wrote:
Getting Phantom Menace podracing vibes here. Pop two of them together, then a chariot behind them then cables connecting them. That would be a nice kitbash project.

Or go the other way and kit bash some Escher jet bikes from Star Wars pod racers.



Might be something that could be done with the Micro Machines versions as well.

 Mentlegen324 wrote:
I'm not too familiar with the smaller details of Necromunda lore, I could understand Van Saar and even to a lesser extent Delaque having anti-grav tech vehicles, but does it make much sense for Escher? Is it not something meant to be relatively rare?

because van saar sell their Antigrav generators everywhere。。。

Exactly, yes. Rare, but less rare for Van Saar.
Van Saar makes the weapons and equment for the hive. They keep some just for themselves, but expensive stuff, they can make a nice profit on.

 MonkeyBallistic wrote:

Toofast wrote:

 Flinty wrote:
held aloft by gravitic drives the like of which are long lost to the Techpriests of the 41st Millenium.

They had no problem with gravitic drives for speeders, hover tanks, and all the other ridiculous crap the space marines have, but they can't find them for jetbikes? Literally just use 1 from a repulsor and make it smaller...

1st edition has suspensors (ripped straight out of Dune) that could be attached to any piece of equipment to make it weightless. If antigrav technology is now common place again,it’s a retcon of a retcon.

Current 40k still has suspensors in Killteam as equipment for Marines to reduce the penalty for moving with heavy weapons.

So I don't know if it's been outright stated how they work but it certainly seems to still function by reducing weight

Suspensors are either extra arm that hold the weapons or mechanical rigs fit into the wielder. Like the Orlock heavy weapon.

Lots of Goliath weapons are supported by a suspensor, allowing them to wield it and fire in 1 hand, although these are not supported in rules.

Chopstick wrote:
Suspensors are either extra arm that hold the weapons or mechanical rigs fit into the wielder. Like the Orlock heavy weapon.

Lots of Goliath weapons are supported by a suspensor, allowing them to wield it and fire in 1 hand, although these are not supported in rules.

Eh, no.

https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Suspensor

Also important to note that Escher are not normal humans. They're usually pumped full of performance enhancing drugs of all sorts. The extreme environment of Necromunda also brings forth people who are beyond normal. Then there's no respect for human lives, so they're willing to have a bunch of drug enhanced adrenaline junkies ride jet engines if it gives them an advantage. Also Necromunda is a factory planet, they're probably using discarded parts from the jet engine assembly lines.

And honestly, I'd rather have the rule of cool over adhering too strictly to whatever loose canon there is. If anything, 40k stagnated under all the self imposed restrictions to decades old writing.

If you have a problem with their lack of masks, then there's probably a forge world upgrade kit coming for Escher, just like there is for Orlocks.

 Vertrucio wrote:
Also important to note that Escher are not normal humans.

Neither are Goliaths. Or even Delaque these days.

Necromunda ain't what it used to be...

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 Vertrucio wrote:
Also important to note that Escher are not normal humans.

Neither are Goliaths. Or even Delaque these days.

Necromunda ain't what it used to be...

Current Necromunda is the hobby game that rich nobles in the Spire play to while away the hours, based on wildly exaggerated caricatures of downhivers they've heard from friends of friends of friends. "Those scum down there are barely even human! But they have exquisite and expensive toys, because I demand standards in my entertainment, what!"

Meanwhile, actual Eschers and Delaques and Goliaths sigh and drink their Wildsnake before heading out to scrag the neighbours' water still and teach them a lesson for what they did to Fred.

It's like how the original Starwing (Starfox) on Super Nintendo was about the grim and serious actual war, while Lylat Wars (Starfox 64) was the family-friendly action movie the survivors made about it afterward.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 Vertrucio wrote:
Also important to note that Escher are not normal humans.

Neither are Goliaths. Or even Delaque these days.

Necromunda ain't what it used to be...

And it never was.

You can always play Nostalgiamunda any time you want. You’re free to dislike parts of Newcromunda (I doubt anyone likes everything). But this is the currently supported game and it seems to sell, so accept it for what it is or enjoy a retro campaign. There is no point in tilting at windmills, the old gangs aren’t going to revert to their ‘90s origins.

And remember for every one of you who is upset with what became of their classic gang, there are people like me who switched from team Escher to team Van Saar because of those changes. I also like the new Delaque; sorry-not sorry.

Now Baxx bitching about rules typos and poor organization, no easy way to get in without a guide—I’m on board that train.

Let's stick to the news and the rumours in topic eh?

New Goliath Forgeboss.





Front on, I don’t like it. There’s something just a bit off about the pose, like it’s been kitbashed and the angles don’t quite line up.

Could just be viewing angle. Could be the paint job, as the eyes don’t seem to be looking down the gun right.

Quite like the rear view though. Bionic arm and the axe are sweet.

Ninja'd!

The New Goliath Forge Boss is Coming to Renderize the Entire Underhive



Oh, and:

WarCom wrote:* You may think he has too many weapons but the Goliath gene-smiths have been hard at work to ensure their muscle-bound fighters can carry even more equipment, as you’ll see in an Apocrypha Necromunda very soon.

Should've give him a face with beard.

And that axe is ugly.

I think it’s the gun strap, angle and paint job.

With the strap and skin being similar tones (at least to my eyes), it makes the torso look bulked out on that side, and the axe head stops us seeing the other arm and toro side.

Combi-Bolt Pistol/Hand Flamer.
Combi-Bolter/Grenade Launcher.

I'm surprise his axe isn't a combi-weapon.

Great. A Goliath nobody needs and I could do a better job of kitbashing myself. How about minis for all of those guild delegations and Noble House patrons that don’t have minis yet instead?

Man, that is FUGLY!

A lolt of Forgeworld miniatures look kinda wonky to me these days.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
New Goliath Forgeboss.





Front on, I don’t like it. There’s something just a bit off about the pose, like it’s been kitbashed and the angles don’t quite line up.

Could just be viewing angle. Could be the paint job, as the eyes don’t seem to be looking down the gun right.

Quite like the rear view though. Bionic arm and the axe are sweet.

Can´t unsee it now. Models not looking where the gun is aimed at is a serious offense in tabletop gaming.

I hope it is just a wonky angle. The rest is definitely paint job, as the gun straps, armour straps and skin tone all being similar kind of blends things into one.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Combi-Bolt Pistol/Hand Flamer.
Combi-Bolter/Grenade Launcher.

I'm surprise his axe isn't a combi-weapon.

It's a combi-axe (or possibly combi-chain-axe), HBMC, in the same way that Chaos Terminators get combi-bolters...

The gun strap goes under the shoulder pad look odd, the shoulder pads are strapped to the suspender belts but the gun strap overlap the belt.

What the hell is that pose.

 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:
What the hell is that pose.

Cheesy McBoring shoots a pistol while holding an axe.
Its...a basic goliath ganger from the original box set with five more layers of cruft and 'bling.'

Someone was a clear fan of digital sculpting layers.

He's got the flattest pose, most awkward imaginable, he's got a loadout that no sane man would ever give him, the shoulder strap is under his shoulderpad, he's not even remotely looking where his gun is pointed.


My God.

Surely a bolter/grenade launcher is a bit redundant in terms of weapon effect also it’s entertaining that the gl calibre appears to be less than the bolter. Unless it’s a stub cannon rather than a gl.

Egh. The paint job isn't doing him many favours, granted. The Dwayne Johnson resemblance is a little unnerving.

FW seem to have a preoccupation with making sure every weapon option from the main gang lists is available, but as a slow, slow trickle of questionable choices. Which is weird, since the Escher champs weapons set seemed a better way to do it. Maybe it didn't sell. So bolt pistol/hand flamer and bolter/grenade launcher are now covered, but on the same model. While most of the other combi-weapons were only available as part of the out-of-print resin weapon upgrades, and (presuming this one releases solo with no options) there is still no missile launcher, no multi-melta...

Let the people kitbash and get on with the alliance delegations.

 Flinty wrote:
Surely a bolter/grenade launcher is a bit redundant in terms of weapon effect also it’s entertaining that the gl calibre appears to be less than the bolter. Unless it’s a stub cannon rather than a gl.

Tell that to the Primaris


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Also damn FW for wasting a Necromunda release slot on something that you could really easily kitbash on your own, and probably have it look better, tbh.