Forum adverts like this one are shown to any user who is not logged in. Join us by filling out a tiny 3 field form and you will get your own, free, dakka user account which gives a good range of benefits to you:
No adverts like this in the forums anymore.
Times and dates in your local timezone.
Full tracking of what you have read so you can skip to your first unread post, easily see what has changed since you last logged in, and easily see what is new at a glance.
Email notifications for threads you want to watch closely.
Being a part of the oldest wargaming community on the net.
If you are already a member then feel free to login now.
Oh just a wee note for anyone who might not have watched preview unboxing or bought previous nuQuest games from GW: the heroes are, once again, in a larger scale than is typical for modern GW and so will all be noticeably bigger than regular minis in the appropriate ranges if you had a mind to use them in armies or for conversion fodder. Think Sisters of Battle character model vs regular nuCadian line infantry difference.
YodhrinsForge wrote: Oh just a wee note for anyone who might not have watched preview unboxing or bought previous nuQuest games from GW: the heroes are, once again, in a larger scale than is typical for modern GW and so will all be noticeably bigger than regular minis in the appropriate ranges if you had a mind to use them in armies or for conversion fodder. Think Sisters of Battle character model vs regular nuCadian line infantry difference.
GW's models are more often than not too large already for my taste these days, so these are even larger?
YodhrinsForge wrote: Oh just a wee note for anyone who might not have watched preview unboxing or bought previous nuQuest games from GW: the heroes are, once again, in a larger scale than is typical for modern GW and so will all be noticeably bigger than regular minis in the appropriate ranges if you had a mind to use them in armies or for conversion fodder. Think Sisters of Battle character model vs regular nuCadian line infantry difference.
YodhrinsForge wrote: Oh just a wee note for anyone who might not have watched preview unboxing or bought previous nuQuest games from GW: the heroes are, once again, in a larger scale than is typical for modern GW and so will all be noticeably bigger than regular minis in the appropriate ranges if you had a mind to use them in armies or for conversion fodder. Think Sisters of Battle character model vs regular nuCadian line infantry difference.
I don't think this is true. The minicompare website is pretty accurate. All the heroes are in scale with the rest of the cities line. A lot of them are standing on something which makes them look bigger.
scarletsquig wrote: I'm looking at making scatter terrain for the boards, has there been any confirmation of hex sizes?
45mm flat-to-flat looks like it would be roughly accurate, judging by how a 40mm base fits, but the exact dimension is probably something else.
Would be great if it matched Underworlds since some of the hex terrain would work well.
I can confirm that Darkwater hexes are the same size as Warhammer Underworlds: Embergard, 45mm flat-to-flat However, I hadn't realized that Embergard hexes were smaller than those of previous editions (52mm) which means that plastic scenery from Nightvault and Beastgrave is 16% too big.
That place is the harsh dark future far left with only war left.
scarletsquig wrote: I'm looking at making scatter terrain for the boards, has there been any confirmation of hex sizes?
45mm flat-to-flat looks like it would be roughly accurate, judging by how a 40mm base fits, but the exact dimension is probably something else.
Would be great if it matched Underworlds since some of the hex terrain would work well.
I can confirm that Darkwater hexes are the same size as Warhammer Underworlds: Embergard, 45mm flat-to-flat However, I hadn't realized that Embergard hexes were smaller than those of previous editions (52mm) which means that plastic scenery from Nightvault and Beastgrave is 16% too big.
Were hex size was the only thing to shrink when GW went from WU'17 to WU'24, then I would still be avidly playing Underworlds. Sadly, too much else was lost in the change of editions...
scarletsquig wrote: I'm looking at making scatter terrain for the boards, has there been any confirmation of hex sizes?
45mm flat-to-flat looks like it would be roughly accurate, judging by how a 40mm base fits, but the exact dimension is probably something else.
Would be great if it matched Underworlds since some of the hex terrain would work well.
I can confirm that Darkwater hexes are the same size as Warhammer Underworlds: Embergard, 45mm flat-to-flat However, I hadn't realized that Embergard hexes were smaller than those of previous editions (52mm) which means that plastic scenery from Nightvault and Beastgrave is 16% too big.
Thanks, that gives me something to get started with before my set arrives, I want to get the nurgle walls from the intro quest made and painted this week, then it'll be painting whatever minis need painting for each quest from there.
YodhrinsForge wrote: Oh just a wee note for anyone who might not have watched preview unboxing or bought previous nuQuest games from GW: the heroes are, once again, in a larger scale than is typical for modern GW and so will all be noticeably bigger than regular minis in the appropriate ranges if you had a mind to use them in armies or for conversion fodder. Think Sisters of Battle character model vs regular nuCadian line infantry difference.
I don't think this is true. The minicompare website is pretty accurate. All the heroes are in scale with the rest of the cities line. A lot of them are standing on something which makes them look bigger.
I don't think *this* is true. Minicompare is a crapshoot, and I came to my conclusion by seeing a couple of youtube reviews where people point out that the WHQ heroes are noticeably big, the fact that the previous WHQ heroes were noticably big, and measuring the images available of the models comparing the known base sizes(actual size, since for some mad reason that they match what they're called is not a given) to the models - as someone who's been scale'tisming for a fair while, I'm pretty sure I remember to account for "they're standing on something"
If they were in-scale you would expect the Jade Wizard character to measure ~31.5mm to the eye, he measures ~34. The knight measures ~32 to the eye, but is in a leaning forward and wide-stanced pose. Obviously those measures are rough, but until I have them in hand with calipers they're close enough for government work.
I know there are plenty of people out there who don't care about scale, that's great, have fun. But this incessant need to pretend that scale differences *don't exist* just because some people don't care enough to notice them needs to end.
Height alone is not enough to judge; are they of 'a different scale' or just taller people? Are the heads and hands bigger than comparable miniatures? Genuine question, not being rude.
I don't think *this* is true. Minicompare is a crapshoot, and I came to my conclusion by seeing a couple of youtube reviews where people point out that the WHQ heroes are noticeably big, the fact that the previous WHQ heroes were noticably big, and measuring the images available of the models comparing the known base sizes
I can't comment about any fantasy models at all- whether for WHQ or AoS.
But BSF is WHQ game. It's true that the models from that game are bigger than Rogue Trader - 7th edition 40k models.
It is absolutely 100% UNTRUE that they are bigger than 8th - 10th edition 40k models. I didn't need to watch youtube or manipulate images based on base size to figure this out. I own the models, and I see it and feel it any time I look at them. Anyone who told you otherwise is mistaken or lying, and any manipulation experiments you have done that indicated otherwise were somehow flawed.
Caveat: Not all models are an equal height- marines ARE taller than Guardsmen in perfect scale. Pose also affects height. It is possible that by comparing differently posed models of the same faction, models of different factions, and especially differently posed models of different factions that images can be cherry picked and placed side by side to create the perception you describe.
But when you own the models, I can say absolutely that BSF models are no bigger than 8th-10th edition 40k models.
I'm sure someone who plays AoS and owns both current AoS models and Cursed City models can testify about that- I own neither, and therefore cannot.
This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2025/12/07 18:34:06
