Warhammer 60k

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**2x210**

The thread on the fall of Terra got me thinking, would GW producing a 60k game set in an alternate timeline (as to not remove the mystery of 40k) be something you'd buy?

I'm thinking something like the HH stuff but in a smaller level, release an expansion that details what has happened (Fall of Terra, Tyranids ate everything, Crons all woke up, Empy woke up, Abaddon got to Terra, etc) they pick one of those and basically eliminate some units while adding some new stuff.

Think
Space Marines desperately fighting a gorilla war against a chaos invasion no tanks, dreads, or anything.
Collections of races banded to fight a dire threat
New Units
Reorganize some FOC
Maybe produce one or two alternate codexs for all of the races. (One covers all Xenos forces, one covers all Chaos, one covers all IoM)

You wouldn't need that many new models and it should be playable with current 40k stuff.

Would you buy that?

**mjl7atlas**

Not to detract from your idea, but all it seems you suggested was moving the timeline and then removing vehicles. It would take a dynamic change to "buy" 60k edition imo.

**ALEXisAWESOME**

http://www.thebolthole.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=231&sid=9268b1aa402abd3119e0d57eca2b90a2

Take a look at this for what Warhammer 60k would REALLY look like. Its the best piece of fan fiction I have ever read, and it wouldn't let me stop reading!

Only after you have read this can you have any insight into what the universe would be like in the future.

**chaos0xomega**

Preeeetty sure the Imperium will be long gone in the year 60,000... As would most of the galaxy. Doubt even the Tyranids would still be kicking around.

**Arcsquad12**

Space Marines fighting a war with Gorillas would be awesome. I'm seeing Rise of the Planet of the Apes crossed with Gundam.

**2x210**

Ohh wow, guerrilla I meant, early morning posting haha.....

Gorilla Space Marines sound awesome though

**TheCustomLime**

Eh, who knows, by the year 60k the Cadian Gate may have finally fallen (Or have been retaken, who knows).

**Kain**

2x210 wrote:
The thread on the fall of Terra got me thinking, would GW producing a 60k game set in an alternate timeline (as to not remove the mystery of 40k) be something you'd buy?

I'm thinking something like the HH stuff but in a smaller level, release an expansion that details what has happened (Fall of Terra, Tyranids ate everything, Crons all woke up, Empy woke up, Abaddon got to Terra, etc) they pick one of those and basically eliminate some units while adding some new stuff.

Think
Space Marines desperately fighting a gorilla war against a chaos invasion no tanks, dreads, or anything.
Collections of races banded to fight a dire threat
New Units
Reorganize some FOC
Maybe produce one or two alternate codexs for all of the races. (One covers all Xenos forces, one covers all Chaos, one covers all IoM)

You wouldn't need that many new models and it should be playable with current 40k stuff.

Would you buy that?

And here I was hoping for a discussion of the Warhammer 60k Age of Dusk fanfic...

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chaos0xomega wrote:
Preeeetty sure the Imperium will be long gone in the year 60,000... As would most of the galaxy. Doubt even the Tyranids would still be kicking around.

Oh that'd be because they'd have already eaten everything in the galaxy and moved on.

That Triangulum Galaxy seems particularly tasty.

**DeffDred**

ALEXisAWESOME wrote:
http://www.thebolthole.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=231&sid=9268b1aa402abd3119e0d57eca2b90a2

Take a look at this for what Warhammer 60k would REALLY look like. Its the best piece of fan fiction I have ever read, and it wouldn't let me stop reading!

Only after you have read this can you have any insight into what the universe would be like in the future.

TLDR.

Anyone wanna sum it up?

**Psienesis**

???

**Kain**

DeffDred wrote:
ALEXisAWESOME wrote:
http://www.thebolthole.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=231&sid=9268b1aa402abd3119e0d57eca2b90a2

Take a look at this for what Warhammer 60k would REALLY look like. Its the best piece of fan fiction I have ever read, and it wouldn't let me stop reading!

Only after you have read this can you have any insight into what the universe would be like in the future.

TLDR.

Anyone wanna sum it up?

Warhammer 50k is 40k with the grimdark up to eleven. 60k is that up to eleven. You have nice things like intelligent orks who think tactically and use their reality bending consciously, a Tyranid-Ork hybrid running around that can happily devour daemon worlds and casually breaks reality, Eliphas the Inheritor being the new competent leader of the black hand (or was that another fic?), the Tau becoming goose stepping stalinists, and the remains of the Imperium becoming horrible people.

**Traejun**

The 60K stuff really is an amazing read, but it's also a little heavy on the "Imperium is really actually bad".

Too much Space Marines oppress and kill everything. Too much religious madness. WAY too much "Chaos wins".

I think a lot of that has to do with how popular the Chaos side has become over the years, leading many of the fanfic writers to write in that direction. But that's neither here nor there.

The reality is that 50K and 60K would have a good balance of the Imperium's left-overs doing bad and good. Far more bastions of human civility under the guard of surviving Astartes and, likely, poorly equipped PDF/Guard forces. Similarly, there'd be plenty of the religious craziness and renegade (though not necessarily chaos tainted) Astartes and other military forces building small fiefdoms or plainly tear-assing across the cosmos raping, pillaging and generally causing trouble.

In essence, there'd be far more "factions", with a good balance of bad and good (intentions?). Too much grimdark in the current post-40K fanfic.

**JWhex**

Getting back to the OP's question. I would definitely not buy into it because it would mean purchasing

expensive rule books
expensive models

and for what gameing benefit?

The HH stuff is just popular because it is all about the marines. I dont think I would want to invest in another version of 40k, I would just rather do something completely different.

**Dakkamite**

Space Marines desperately fighting a gorilla war against a chaos invasion no tanks, dreads, or anything.

You can do that already. Just model your Space Marines with monkey heads. Good times for all.

Oh, the no vehicles thing? Just play without vehicles ~ you don't *really* need GW to give you permission to do that do you?

Also Space Marines would blow at a Guerilla war. Absolutely no capability to absorb losses. I'd put my money on any other faction to beat them in this instance.

New Units

There is such a thing as "enough units". Took me 20 years to realize that, but its true. We need to see certain units revamped to bring them up to the level of the others (or better yet, de-vamp the OP gak back down to reasonable levels, but "new units" isn't automatically a good thing.

Collections of races banded to fight a dire threat

No. People like you already ruined Halo, Starcraft, and probably a million other franchises beside that. Don't you dare lay your dirty hands on my warhams

The HH stuff is just popular because it is all about the marines. I dont think I would want to invest in another version of 40k, I would just rather do something completely different.

Give me an equivalent book for my Orks and I'll give you all of my money forever.

**JWhex**

Wait a minute we do have collections of races fighting a dire threat that has already ruined warhammer. Havent you seen the ally matrix?

**2x210**

Dakkamite wrote:

Space Marines desperately fighting a gorilla war against a chaos invasion no tanks, dreads, or anything.

You can do that already. Just model your Space Marines with monkey heads. Good times for all.

Oh, the no vehicles thing? Just play without vehicles ~ you don't *really* need GW to give you permission to do that do you?

Also Space Marines would blow at a Guerilla war. Absolutely no capability to absorb losses. I'd put my money on any other faction to beat them in this instance.

New Units

There is such a thing as "enough units". Took me 20 years to realize that, but its true. We need to see certain units revamped to bring them up to the level of the others (or better yet, de-vamp the OP gak back down to reasonable levels, but "new units" isn't automatically a good thing.

Collections of races banded to fight a dire threat

No. People like you already ruined Halo, Starcraft, and probably a million other franchises beside that. Don't you dare lay your dirty hands on my warhams

Are you serious, like there are no alliances in 40k already, also people like me? Lol nerd rage much don't worry I won't dare to touch the sacred fluff that is warhammer with my crazy ideas....

The HH stuff is just popular because it is all about the marines. I dont think I would want to invest in another version of 40k, I would just rather do something completely different.

Give me an equivalent book for my Orks and I'll give you all of my money forever.

**Kain**

JWhex wrote:
Wait a minute we do have collections of races fighting a dire threat that has already ruined warhammer. Havent you seen the ally matrix?

The Craftworld Eldar, Imperium, and Tau are quite likely to ally in the face of a mutual threat , with the Orks, Chaos, Necrons, and Tyranids in order of threat level. (Tyranids take top place due to their sheer scale, the finality of the damage they do, and total unity). Each will have their own motives, but the somewhat reasonable aliens are a much lesser priority than the artificial warrior race, the daemon powered madmen, the god level tech wielding mummybots, and the planet devouring innumerable horde of dinobugs.