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Made in us
Neophyte undergoing Ritual of Detestation



Provo, Utah

So, initiated a trade for a Gundam for some FoW/Bezerkers.
30/5/2013 He said he received my package and said he would send his out Friday, the next day.
3/6/2013 Ask if he got tracking number, no reply.
8/6/2013 Ask if package was shipped, no reply.

Not sure if I should wake longer, if someone has his email address or what. Any suggestions?


Automatically Appended Next Post:
Another quick update. Still no message or package. Does anyone have contact information for him?

This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2013/08/01 19:02:36


 
   
Made in us
Neophyte undergoing Ritual of Detestation



Provo, Utah

4 more days, 2 more messages, still nothing. Does anyone have anything on this guy?

 
   
Made in us
Dangerous Skeleton Champion





Chicago Suburbs

If you send money through PayPal , you can always keep emailing him on that email. I know one time I have not heard anything and I shot a quick note to that email and person responded he hasn't been on Dakka too much.


 Udo wrote:
Get it painted up though. It's a scientific fact that unpainted models die quicker than painted one's.
 
   
Made in us
Neophyte undergoing Ritual of Detestation



Provo, Utah

See, it was a trade. No money was exchanged.


Automatically Appended Next Post:
I have gotten ahold of him through his YouTube account. Looks like he had some emergency things happen and will be shipping soon.

This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2013/06/20 01:39:11


 
   
Made in us
Neophyte undergoing Ritual of Detestation



Provo, Utah

Update as of 7/5/2013, still no package received. Says he has tracking number, no tracking number has been provided and no further communication has happened. Going to contact my local PD and go from there.

 
   
Made in us
[MOD]
Dankhold Troggoth






Shadeglass Maze

Contacting your PD is definitely the way to go, and telling him you're doing so. You have all his information to give them... a case file with his name on it may persuade him to act, or failing that, the police themselves.
   
Made in us
Neophyte undergoing Ritual of Detestation



Provo, Utah

Well, told him I would be filing a police report. He sent out a package within 30 minutes. Package gets here, only half of the items are there. Emailed him again stating that I will be following through with the police report and haven't heard anything else.

 
   
Made in us
Neophyte undergoing Ritual of Detestation



Provo, Utah

So, messaged him multiple times saying that he only gave half of the agreed upon trade. Still no response. In regards to the police report, neither of the PD are willing to take my report. More or less, they are saying it is my fault and that I shouldn't be doing this type of thing. Not sure where to go or what to do. Really upset that I am out a good bit of stuff.

 
   
Made in us
Enginseer with a Wrench





Riverside

Did you print out all of your conversations and emails? You have to pretty much build your case.. I.E all conversation printed out...Details of items being traded. I would even go as far as printing the ad of the items trade from there website Like GW's listing of necron warriors id print it out. So that way you have 1 your conversation 2 a list of items traded and recived.3 a print out of the items and value. I would call the local PD again and keep pushin it or call his local PD in his area and alert them of a scammer.

Imperial Fist-6k
Dark elves-4k
Dark eldar 2.5k
Warriors of chaos-4k
Dakka swap shop trades.....12 
   
Made in us
Regular Dakkanaut




This falls under Mail Fraud, and if your Local PD tells you that you're wrong, you just need to go up the chain.

   
Made in us
Neophyte undergoing Ritual of Detestation



Provo, Utah

SheSpits, I will have to do that.

Jason, I will see where I can take things.

 
   
Made in us
Nasty Nob on Warbike with Klaw





St. Louis, MO

HoratiOTFH wrote:
So, messaged him multiple times saying that he only gave half of the agreed upon trade. Still no response. In regards to the police report, neither of the PD are willing to take my report. More or less, they are saying it is my fault and that I shouldn't be doing this type of thing. Not sure where to go or what to do. Really upset that I am out a good bit of stuff.


NO INSULT INTENDED...

Are you young? Like, under 21?
If so, bring your parents with you. If not... you have to stand up to them.

You need to speak with a DETECTIVE. Don't talk to whatever "beat cop" answers the phone.

Look in this thread here (http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/523737.page) for information on how to approach the situation and what the results can be.
You CAN do it, but you MUST be firm. They may be police, but they're just human. You have to stand up for yourself to them, sometimes.

Eric

Black Fiend wrote: Okay all the ChapterHouse Nazis to the right!! All the GW apologists to the far left. LETS GET READY TO RUMBLE !!!
The Green Git wrote: I'd like to cross section them and see if they have TFG rings, but that's probably illegal.
Polonius wrote: You have to love when the most clearly biased person in the room is claiming to be objective.
Greebynog wrote:Us brits have a sense of fair play and propriety that you colonial savages can only dream of.
Stelek wrote: I know you're afraid. I want you to be. Because you should be. I've got the humiliation wagon all set up for you to take a ride back to suck city.
Quote: LunaHound--- Why do people hate unpainted models? I mean is it lacking the realism to what we fantasize the plastic soldier men to be?
I just can't stand it when people have fun the wrong way. - Chongara
I do believe that the GW "moneysheep" is a dying breed, despite their bleats to the contrary. - AesSedai
You are a thief and a predator of the wargaming community, and i'll be damned if anyone says differently ever again on my watch in these forums. -MajorTom11 
   
Made in gb
Ghastly Grave Guard



Uk

 MagickalMemories wrote:
HoratiOTFH wrote:
So, messaged him multiple times saying that he only gave half of the agreed upon trade. Still no response. In regards to the police report, neither of the PD are willing to take my report. More or less, they are saying it is my fault and that I shouldn't be doing this type of thing. Not sure where to go or what to do. Really upset that I am out a good bit of stuff.


NO INSULT INTENDED...

Are you young? Like, under 21?
If so, bring your parents with you. If not... you have to stand up to them.

You need to speak with a DETECTIVE. Don't talk to whatever "beat cop" answers the phone.

Look in this thread here (http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/523737.page) for information on how to approach the situation and what the results can be.
You CAN do it, but you MUST be firm. They may be police, but they're just human. You have to stand up for yourself to them, sometimes.

Eric
very good advice, people should definitely follow this. It works a lot more than you think.
   
Made in us
[MOD]
Dankhold Troggoth






Shadeglass Maze

Focke_Wulf, please respond to this ASAP.

This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2013/08/01 19:02:45


 
   
Made in us
Neophyte undergoing Ritual of Detestation



Provo, Utah

He said that he had mailed the package and it will be here on Monday. I am skeptical, so we shall see.

 
   
Made in us
Nasty Nob on Warbike with Klaw





St. Louis, MO

HoratiOTFH wrote:
He said that he had mailed the package and it will be here on Monday. I am skeptical, so we shall see.


Did he provide you with a tracking number? All US mail, except Media Mail, comes with a tracking number now.
I would get in touch with him and *insist* on a tracking number, with a warning that, otherwise, you'll go to the police. You can provide him a link to the Ahriman85 TR (http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/523737.page), in case he thinks the police won't get involved.

Eric

Black Fiend wrote: Okay all the ChapterHouse Nazis to the right!! All the GW apologists to the far left. LETS GET READY TO RUMBLE !!!
The Green Git wrote: I'd like to cross section them and see if they have TFG rings, but that's probably illegal.
Polonius wrote: You have to love when the most clearly biased person in the room is claiming to be objective.
Greebynog wrote:Us brits have a sense of fair play and propriety that you colonial savages can only dream of.
Stelek wrote: I know you're afraid. I want you to be. Because you should be. I've got the humiliation wagon all set up for you to take a ride back to suck city.
Quote: LunaHound--- Why do people hate unpainted models? I mean is it lacking the realism to what we fantasize the plastic soldier men to be?
I just can't stand it when people have fun the wrong way. - Chongara
I do believe that the GW "moneysheep" is a dying breed, despite their bleats to the contrary. - AesSedai
You are a thief and a predator of the wargaming community, and i'll be damned if anyone says differently ever again on my watch in these forums. -MajorTom11 
   
Made in us
Neophyte undergoing Ritual of Detestation



Provo, Utah

I have asked for a tracking number, although have not been provided with one yet.

 
   
Made in us
Neophyte undergoing Ritual of Detestation



Provo, Utah

Package got here. Package highly damaged. Items seemed good, but need some glue. Consider this closed

 
   
 
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