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I've started a new sculpting project. It started with just a random idea of possessed terminator model and resulted in those two wip sculpts:


The work on those inspired me to create a whole bunch of them. And i had the crasy idea of building the rest of them modular so that i could bit-bash my pieces with GW terminators. That resulted in this:


As you see most arms are still weaponless. And i have a hard time deciding what weapons to put on there. I could go the possessed way and add only weird melee weapons but that would result in a terminator squad that is either illegal rulewise or all equiped with dual claws.

I'm not a player and never was interested in playing. But i still prefer them to be a valid choise should i decide to play. So i ask you who have more experience with loadouts. But others are also welcome to post their favorites.
Also is there actual interest in me casting a few of those once they are ready? (At least once i feel comfortable with starting resin casting.) In that case the most interesting weapon loadouts are probably those that can't fully be created with only one box of terminators.


So my question is: What would you like to see me put on those arms?

And if you have interesting ideas for additional terminator pieces that you want to see made throw them at me too.

First of all, I tip my hat to your skills

For the first pair of airms I would try some Kind of matis sickle/arms. The arms are really thin and I could see such insectoid claws working out really well. They could Count as twin lightning claws or two power swords.

Second right: The arm Looks pretty much unmutated. How about attaching a powermaul head to the wrist instead of a Hand?

Second left: Hrmm not really sure but somehow it Looks like a really good base for a Whip. You could even go so far and make the wrist look like it broke up and a Whip made out of spinal bones grows out. Could be a power claw or a power sword.

Third right:I see a maw at the elbow. How about taking that even further and making a big and malformed fist with a mouth in the middle of the Palm and some Kind of teeth/Spikes around it? Would Count as a powerfist.

The last pair: The arms look very mechanical. How about making some Kind of rotating Blade/claw Hand hybrid. Look at the claws of the Heldrake and you'll see what I mean. Could Count as power claws.

Hope I could help

Those are all really cool suggestions. My favorites are the whip and the power maul hand.

And i can try to do something like i did with my earlier possessed sculpts for the power fists:


I could also try to repurpose my chainsword mouth arm that i didn't use for my possessed as it was to large:

First and foremost, your green stuff skill makes me ridiculously jealous. Curse you....

Second, have you considered magnetizing them? If you do end up casting these, you could magnetize them so you have multiples of the same weapon. Plus you could change weapons in and out as you please.

Most of my normal terminators are magnetized so magnetizing those would be no problem.

The question is more aimed at deciding what options to actually build. But knowing myself i might even end building all of them if i find the time ...

well I'm not one to know much about load outs and builds and what not, but if you were to be running these guys as normal Terminators, all the miniatures seem to be the ol' powerfist/combi bolter combo.

Now, the powerfist can be whatever crazy mutation you so wish, I personally would love to see the chainsaw mouth being used somewhere (Chainfist perhaps?) and as for the stormbolters...

There's a hand in the possessed kit, it's like a mouth firing out a jet of fire; could that work for a mutated stormbolter style dyou think? Like, their arm has fused into a sort of ranged weapon?

I though on fuseing guns and weapons with the arms. But my biggest problem is to get the right amount of bulk so that i can be depict as a storm bolter. But i'll probably try it. Using the palm of a hand or a mouth arm as a weapons barrel is a really cool idea and now i have to try it.

I already did the basic shape of a reaper autocannon yesterday useing two arms on one side. One will be fused with the gun and the other holds up the ammo feed. Now i just need to cuntinue on it and get a good sized ammo belt. I think Zinge has a few that i could use.

Already been some fantastic ideas so far and I don't really know the load outs allowed, so just gona assume the traditional power weap and combi weapon most termies can take.

I would love to see say one arm outright, the elbow leading into a gun, so flesh meets weapon. (perhaps an autocannon). Then the other arm across the body as a full arm/power fist gripping the arm.
Developing that further: With the slight squat position on your sculpts legs thinking like.... Squating, looking left, right arm coming across the body, down from horizontal level about 45%, elbow into weapon, weapon at horizontal again degrees. With left holding the barrel underneath the gun.

Hope that idea is clear, was hard to explain without just drawing an image of it
I guess the overall idea im conveying is simply a weapon arm with the other arm acting as the stabliser like you mentioned with the reaper autocannon previously

Sorry but i haven't made as much progress as i hoped i would. But i at least got around to create a bunch of legs. But i need a few terminator bitz now to get the hip joint correct. Maybe ebay has something cheap to offer as i don't want to get a full kit of termies just for measurements and joints shapes.
Also i would need a terminator torso to create a pose for a gun held by both arms to get a got sense of how to pose them. But it is an interesting idea.

Ah these look awesome! definitely a lot more dynamic. I assume the three on the right will get feet? or are you thinking of more a possessed style of feet? like the left foot of the lefthand set?

I really like the far right one. The muscle/sinew detail has come out really well. Although I do feel that where it meets the pelvis its perhaps slightly missing something? the front plate of the pelvis looks very separated from the thighs is what im trying to say I think. Well a good way would be when you look at the other three they seems to connect to the pelvis slightly better, either in a more organic way or.

Im not 100% on what I feel could be different. I think definitely seeing a torso on it first would clarify But overall some really strong looking sculpts. Are they based upon poses from the plastic kit? or are they poses of your own? What did you use as reference? As you said you needed torsos for measurement I assume you measured the legs?

Also! A behind shot perhaps? not needed, but id like to see the back

Solar Shock wrote:
Ah these look awesome! definitely a lot more dynamic. I assume the three on the right will get feet? or are you thinking of more a possessed style of feet? like the left foot of the lefthand set?

They will get feet but i still don't know what style i will use. I though on some with a more hoof-like feets similiar to the one on the possessed model - a hoof but with some clawlike shards sticking out of them. Also maybe some normal looking terminator feets where the front is bent into claws instead.

I really like the far right one. The muscle/sinew detail has come out really well. Although I do feel that where it meets the pelvis its perhaps slightly missing something? the front plate of the pelvis looks very separated from the thighs is what im trying to say I think. Well a good way would be when you look at the other three they seems to connect to the pelvis slightly better, either in a more organic way or.

I see what you mean. I'll look into it. I wanted to add those support "beams" the terminator armor has what whould close the gap there. But i'm unsure on this one as it would also hide a lot of the details already done. Maybe i'll try to add smaller boney looking ridges instead and close the gap with additional muscle mass. Also all of the pelvis are kinda "flat". I plan on adding chaosy armor plates and details to them but as i don't have a loose torso to dryfit to the legs i don't want to add to much that might have to cut down. I'm planing on getting either a few terminator bitz off ebay of buy a whole box of them for additional reference to finish those areas.

Im not 100% on what I feel could be different. I think definitely seeing a torso on it first would clarify But overall some really strong looking sculpts. Are they based upon poses from the plastic kit? or are they poses of your own? What did you use as reference? As you said you needed torsos for measurement I assume you measured the legs?

Also! A behind shot perhaps? not needed, but id like to see the back

Thanks. And i didn't use a real reference. I grabed one of my converted noise terminator but based the measurements only loosely on them as they are somewhat truescaled. So this might turn out bad in the end as is fear that my legs will be to large. Oh well, at least they would look even more dangerous that way.

And i can make a shot from behind. And a new front one as well as i have added a few more details to them. I'll add those photos later.


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So here are the shots from both front and back.


And a shot of one of the newer power fist arms. (Sadly my camera isn't that good if i zoom in too much)


And a small preview of what to come as a single piece i'm creating.

 btldoomhammer wrote:
They will get feet but i still don't know what style i will use. I though on some with a more hoof-like feets similiar to the one on the possessed model - a hoof but with some clawlike shards sticking out of them. Also maybe some normal looking terminator feets where the front is bent into claws instead.

ooo, when you said claws the first thing that popped into my head was of them curving the opposite way. 1 single bone/talon sort of like noddies shoes? but yeh I think the problem with feet would be the armour plates on the shins, they would block you from doing anything tooo extensive with the feet?

I see what you mean. I'll look into it. I wanted to add those support "beams" the terminator armor has what whould close the gap there. But i'm unsure on this one as it would also hide a lot of the details already done. Maybe i'll try to add smaller boney looking ridges instead and close the gap with additional muscle mass. Also all of the pelvis are kinda "flat". I plan on adding chaosy armor plates and details to them but as i don't have a loose torso to dryfit to the legs i don't want to add to much that might have to cut down. I'm planing on getting either a few terminator bitz off ebay of buy a whole box of them for additional reference to finish those areas.
Thanks. And i didn't use a real reference. I grabed one of my converted noise terminator but based the measurements only loosely on them as they are somewhat truescaled. So this might turn out bad in the end as is fear that my legs will be to large. Oh well, at least they would look even more dangerous that way.

I like the beam idea, but understand what you mean. Where ever they run the muscle wont look near half as good as it does now. How about you could do the beam idea but have them split? as if the muscle burst the armour off? or you could have them come out of the armour and dive into the flesh/mutation?
Ahh yeh that makes sense. Well i imagine you can always come back to the finer details after the bodies are done.

In terms of size. Surely you will be making the torso truescale also? so can just factor that into the measurements. If I was doing a chest I think one would look really good if it was sort of 50/50 armour /flesh You could really push the boat Like having one shoulder all muscle without armour and have the arm all muscle too. So its balanced in size with the other arm, except one is all mutation and the other has the classic shoulderpad. Although, that then presents problems with swapability. As it would require careful design for it to be swappable with your regular arms made earlier.

HAHA! I love that mutating powerfist! especiallty the flesh between the fingers. truely looks like the mutation is occuring as we speak and your going for the wolverine termi I see Cant wait to see him develop I stumbled upon lizard men chaos the other day and they had been done fantastically, love seeing variations on the races.

Solar Shock wrote:
ooo, when you said claws the first thing that popped into my head was of them curving the opposite way. 1 single bone/talon sort of like noddies shoes? but yeh I think the problem with feet would be the armour plates on the shins, they would block you from doing anything tooo extensive with the feet?

The shin armor will get in the way somewhat but as i am doing possessed models i am free to either just change the armor there or add longer and/or wider feet and can get away with it.

In terms of size. Surely you will be making the torso truescale also? so can just factor that into the measurements. If I was doing a chest I think one would look really good if it was sort of 50/50 armour /flesh You could really push the boat Like having one shoulder all muscle without armour and have the arm all muscle too. So its balanced in size with the other arm, except one is all mutation and the other has the classic shoulderpad. Although, that then presents problems with swapability. As it would require careful design for it to be swappable with your regular arms made earlier.

I'm not sure what scale i'll do the torsos and how to build in the possibility of changeable heads. Maybe i have to create a pressmold of an GW terminator body, cut it down and recreate my own details. This way i would be able to create a shape that is compatible with GW bitz and i can just copy the joints to get my own parts sitting correctly as well. But i'm somewhat reluctant to do it because it would feel like stealing to me, even if i change all the details. Even pressmolding the shoulders and shoulder joints for the stuff i have done on my arms felt strange...

I like the idea of a massively muscles arm with bulging arm where even the shoulder is replaced with exposed muscle mass. It isn't that hard to do, just requires a bit more of planing. Also i could create a shoulder that in itself looks like a massive muscled up shoulder, Just with a bit of armor platec shards poking out of it.

HAHA! I love that mutating powerfist! especiallty the flesh between the fingers. truely looks like the mutation is occuring as we speak and your going for the wolverine termi I see Cant wait to see him develop I stumbled upon lizard men chaos the other day and they had been done fantastically, love seeing variations on the races.

I like the details on the fist too but the pose looks kinda strange. But i'll probably finish it non the less. And should i cast it then i can just cut and repose it for a better fit.



And i have a few updates for you. Not much as i worked mostly on other stuff. But i at least added a few arm variations with guns or mutated melee weapons. I have two other combi bolter frames build and will add them in different states of fuseing to some of the other arms if i find the time and motivation.

Isn't there a way to have dakkadakka automatically alert me every time you start a thread?

Another way of doing possession might be to convert one greave into an angry snarling face, and the armor bands around the back are gripping arms and hands growing out of upset snarly face. Take the armor hood, and turn it into a set of jaws. The trophy racks having become spines might also be a good idea. For some reason I want to tell you to try doing one terminator nspired by a Mgalekgolo.

Heh. Maybe since the model is larger, do the stomach as a mouth, with the shoulders as eyes, and both arms are pincers that close over the mouth.

Ignoring me is also an option

 poda_t wrote:
Isn't there a way to have dakkadakka automatically alert me every time you start a thread?

Doesn't the friend mechanism includes something similar? I never used it so i can't say for sure.

Another way of doing possession might be to convert one greave into an angry snarling face, and the armor bands around the back are gripping arms and hands growing out of upset snarly face. Take the armor hood, and turn it into a set of jaws. The trophy racks having become spines might also be a good idea. For some reason I want to tell you to try doing one terminator nspired by a Mgalekgolo.

While i'm not a fan of the gripping hand idea a demonic face is something i haven't done for my terminators yet. Thanks for reminding me On the armor hood jaws i'm unsure. While it would be a cool conversion i'm not so sure how to add the head of the wearer to it. I'd either need to add the teeth going over the head/helmet or point them directly forwards.
And i'm not a fan of those trophy racks but a spine with sharp ridges creeping out of the torso is something i add to my list. I could turn those back vents (the middle beam to be precise) into the spine that sticks through te armor going up to the top of the hood.

Another thing that i wanted to do for a long time - and i probably have the skills to do it now - is a marine that has the skin of a human face fixed to a frame in front of his mutated head. This would be a good idea for a terminator head as the terminator hood is in itself already a good frame to attach the skin to.

Heh. Maybe since the model is larger, do the stomach as a mouth, with the shoulders as eyes, and both arms are pincers that close over the mouth.

I've done a belly-mouth poossessed already and while i really like it i'm not so sure if i should do something like that on my terminators. And i might add eyes on some shoulders but turing the entire body into a demonic face sounds silly to me. I won't do it, although should i come around and actually cast those pieces you could do it if you want and if i actually sculpted those parts.

Ignoring me is also an option

How can i ignore ideas that fuel my sculpting process - or at least sharpen my understanding of where i want and don't want to be. I'm not that creative and i often need external input - either reference pictures/models or the ideas i pull from you guys - to sculpt.

I haven't updated here for some time now. I'll just throw those here to show that i'm still working on my teminator.

Well, whaddya know, another awesome blog for me to subscribe to.

All looking awesome. I love the chainsaw mouth thingy!

I thought to myself: "Why not put a few of my arms onto a model and see how it looks?"
That resulted in a massive picture session, so this will be an update on my progress with tons of pictures. I spoilor tagged them and made a collage to better manage all of those arms.

At first the stuff you have seen in earlier stages.


And now all those arms i've done till today:



They all need some work and i have a few ones that aren't on the pictures because there wasn't much to show. One is the chainsaw mouth thing i still need to mount to an arm. Then there is another arm carrying an mutated axe. And also a set of arms somewhat similar to the ectoplasma canons of the forgefined. Massive mutated arms with mouths instead of hands. And i also need some more combibolters and arms for them.

I don't know what i should add to the massive muscled arms that is so bugling that it is as large as a shoulder armor.(The middle of the last picture) And if you have additonal ideas what i could add, just throw them in.

How about a big, 2-fingered (and 1 thumb, obviously) taloned claw? Or possibly a great big cleaver sword weapon?

 Squigsquasher wrote:
How about a big, 2-fingered (and 1 thumb, obviously) taloned claw? Or possibly a great big cleaver sword weapon?

I'll probably go with a massive weapon. Creating fingers always is a tricky thing. And it's a long time since i created a cool melee weapon. I've created two meat cleaver like weapons but i'm not a fan of them. I'll probably still finish them but use them for something else.



I also ordered a few terminator bitz for joint reference. With them i'll be able to start building some torsos and heads as well as finishing the hip area of my legs (Or rework the legs that don't fit).

Here's an idea for inspiration: Nightmare's sword, Soul Edge, from the Soul Calibur series. It's a big fleshy cleaver with a nasty metal edge and an eye.

An interesting idea. I'll try to build my version of the blade and then decide. I'll also look at darksiders weapon artworks who are really cool for chaos weapon designs. (The axe of my demon princess is based on them and looks really cool.)

The ordered terminator bitz are here so i can finally test-assemble my possessed terminator parts better. Also i can start working on the torsos and heads as well as finishing the hip area of the legs.

Here are a few examples assembled useing blue tac. What du you think?

As usual, pure awesomesauce.

I have another update for you.

I've done some smaller stuff that eats away time yet doesn't change much. But i also started to work on torsos and heads what makes a lot more interesting pictures. But i'm kinda unsure how to approach the heads - or better the connection to the torso. Maybe i'll create a pressmould of the back of GW termi heads and use that. But as far as i remember the GW heads had a very strange fit. As an alternate i might try a headless torso as a pressmould and get the inside from there.

Still much work till finishing but i'm slowly getting there with some of the bits. I'm also planing on doing an arm sets holding a weapon twohanded. If it works out i might do a few more of

-- And if you have suggestions for head and torso designs i'm open for it.



And here is a blue-taced termie. I used those very unfinsihed arms because i haven't put pictures of them here till now. Looking at him like that i think he make a good obliterator too.




There isn't much done on the heads but at least i've started.





And here are some one handed weapons i experimented with. One is obviously inspired by the soul edge. Althouh i made it one handed.

As usual, great work. I love the Soul Edge inspired sword, it really looks the part.

Simply amazing. Some legs are a bit bulky, but pretty good job overall! Nice and smooth surfaces, love it!

Yeah some legs turned out rather bulky. I'm thinking of sculpting a few more legs so i can choose between the best of them.

Prepare for a bigger update. The last few days i worked some more on my termies and was without a camera. So this update will have a bunch more pictures.







My first try at a twohanded weapon needs some work. The second arm doesn't properly connect to the handle. But it's easy to fix in this early state. A bit more problematic is the strangely twisted hand. I probably have to redo that it and pose them better.
Those 5 models are assembled useing a mix of different parts, some finished but most unfinished. But i'd say 80% of the work is done.

And here are some of the parts not assembled.

The grip. On the auto cannon dude looks.... Awkward