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Im not of fan of chains over the Hatch

I kinda like these. its simple and doesn't block the hatches

The second pic looks cool

I ment on the top but go with the second pic.

I think that the third pic is how I'm going to do my rhino now. The chains look good, but I really like the lowered headlights and front facing smoke launchers. I have to figure out the best way to do that now. ...But I agree about the chains. I like them up top, as in the third pic, and along the front side in the DA pic. I'm not a fan of them covering the door, preventing it from opening.

the 3rd to me looks too monochrome

I agree, Miss Dee. I meant I liked the build a lot. The paint scheme is absolutely too monochrome for my tastes as well. Big block of black = no fun

If you look at my Space Sharks they are grey but different shades of ....

 Miss Dee wrote:
If you look at my Space Sharks they are grey but different shades of ....

WILL DO.. looks like a pretty long blog. Should keep me busy a work for the next few days

i did absolutly nothing this weekend. I didn't even remove those decals.

I removed most of the stupid decals that I overdid. This is whats left.





I think I might get rid of the wolf paw on top. I was thinking of Huron's Hounds. I don't think it works.
I want for the side door the black asrtal claw with no Chaos star.

I'm not crazy about the paw on top either. I do like the IV and the chaos star looks good too.

Okay paw decal gone.

Up next are bitz...



Hooks and banner?

or


Hooks and Chaos Star?
or nothing?

They both look good to me. Guess it depends on how loudly you want your guys announcing their affiliation.

Nice work dude.
The weathering work that you did is awesome. Love the choice of an orange-yellow to highlight the edge of the scratches. Me personally, i dont really like chains on my models or spikes. If anything i would go for the third pic from the top.

Thanks sennacherib and welcome.

I think I will go with the banner and hooks.


More stuff..

Should I add Smoke launchers?




what do people think about throwing on these cables?



Maybe some skulls?



chains?



All or none?



Let me know what you think? i dont want to over do if it's too much, let me know what you like or don't like?

The cables are an interesting add.

I like the cables, but would prefer them added if you add the previously posted hooks. Chains are not bad either. I'm not a fan of the skulls just sitting there. They would probably shake around and fall off an actual tank.

Sorry man, but I have to say this- Chaos icons are showing up an awful lot.

Nothing like having a dozen or so people build your army for you, eh?

@Moltar and Gitz, Thanks. I think thats exactly what I'm gonna do, but I have put it aside for now.

@ Skalk, A dozen of people would be awesome, but I'm content with only 1/4 of a dozen building my army for me.

I have been reading this blog and I love his fluff.
"The Tyrant Rises"
He created a squad, each marine has a backstory. Some of them died. The ones that lived, not all were tainted by chaos as the imperium wants you to believe. Most of them believed in their cause, they believe in Huron, as I do. Hail Huron, The Blood Reaver!!
side note: It would be cool to make the RC versions of His guys.

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I also found this to be an interesting read.
The Tyrant's Strength
It's fluff discussion on 'how large are the Red Corsairs?'

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I've been working on my Long fangs. 15 MLs. I finished spraying the rest of them. I gave them all a gloss coat. I 've been experimenting on washes. I tried oil washes, but i think I'm using the wrong thinner. because it is not working out and the oil is seperating. So I went back to GW washes.

Now I'm blacking out the non red areas. It's a process that I wish someone else would do for me. I don't think I will highlight these guys. at least not for a while. I just like them not grey. I'd like to start playing again. and it would be nice to have a army with paint and heads.

I can send you the fluff from the 2nd Ed Chaos Codex. It is the first place I remember seeing anything about the RC. If I remember correctly there was no mention of Chaos per se, just that they rebelled. I really like the story of the Space Wolves ship they captured and the Space Wolves that turned from the False Emperor and embraced freedom for the first time in their lives.

Yup thats the stuff I read when I first started. Mind you that was after I bought the Chaos battleforce. Since then I have changed from Chaos to Marine to now Space wolves. but the fluff's changing. IA9 and 10 saw to that. Hell Astral claws are silver and blue now?!

A mix of everything is kinda making sense to me. Chaos warbands in the maelstrom, not wiped out by the RCs would swear loyalty. Most Renegade SM would join the RCs. Cultists, and Renegade Guard. Then you have Geneseed creation of new RCs. All give tributes to the RCs

Huron had 3500 Astral Claws before almost being wiped out. Huron fled Badab with less than 200 Astral Claws.
980999.M41, "Rumours report Huron Blackheart has grown his group of renegades as large as the Space Marine Legions of old."

So the discussion is how many is an old SM legion? 90,000 to 170,000... So a mix makes sense. Mind you I draw the line on mutations, Spawns, giant creatures, Daemon Princes, Oblitorators and Hell chickens! Huron's main force would be pure. He would use the rest like pawns for his advantage. I believe He would also play the part of chaos to feed into the reputation as Tyrant and Blackheart!

IA9 and IA10 allows you to use either C:SM, C:CSM, C:IG with limitations. Now that 6th has allies I believe that they are going to change this soon.

So technically I have 3 armies. C:SM, C:CSM and C:SW and all of them Red Corsairs. (I would love to buy some Imperial Guard for 4 armies)
For now I'd like to finish 1500-2000pts of Huron's Wolves.

Good job and dont forget to read book 3 in the night lords book good ideas in there too. Xx

I can see Huron playing up the Chaos thing for the shock and terror value, but I still don't see him using any true Chaos (except maybe Cultists as a meat shield or troublesome distraction). I know the fluff changes on a GW whim but I always stick with the beginning of things and refuse to let someone rewrite history simply because some hack author decides to rewrite history.

I used to run 2nd Ed Red Corsairs from time to time and most of my force was made up of regular Space Marines that I had picked up here and there. Even painted a few myself. I had a red X on their left pauldrons. I used a spot of gel superglue so I could pop them off and replace the original pauldron in case I ever wanted to run a regular army, but of course that never happened because I hate the Imperium.

I converted my own Huron model since GW didn't release one for 15 (?) years after the fact. I didn't completely finish the paintjob but it was convincing enough, and I think the conversion captured the spirit of Huron Blackheart:



Regardless of which direction you go in, this is an amazing project and the skill you display here is undeniable. Looking forward to further updates, I'm enjoying the progress here.

Do you have any more pictures of your old Corsairs? I'd love to see them. I think I only seen your terrain stuff

So how long have you been in the hobby? 15 years before the huron model? I've only been at this for 4-5 years.

I think I will go for a mix, mosty so I can use the different codex. I have two Dark Vengence kits (the Chaos stuff). I think after I finish my SW list I'll work on a chaos list, then a marine list!

I'll dig some out, but they are buried in a pile of rubble I made after looking for something else so it might be a while. They aren't a big deal though, my individual model skills are tabletop adequate (they look good at 3 ft).

edit- I started painting D&D models in early 80's and have been gaming since 1990, but I took a break from May '99 to Nov '09. I've been hard core modeling since I started up again. I'm more of a modeler than a player, but I do enjoy the whole 'drink beer roll dice kill stuff' games I host at my place. FLGS games not so much.

Thats a long time.

I've been D&Ding since 2nd Ed. Started DMing for 3rd Ed. Around '07 my players could no longer commit and it was getting tough to DM. So I tried Warhammer in '09. It a fast pick up game. We played 4th ed. until 5th came out then my friends stop playing anthing all together. Then I found this forum and met alot of players and had many games at FLGS. Then 6th came out and I haven't played since. Been meaning to but life gets in the way. So now I mostly stick to painting.

So this is what I've been working for the last week... a shoulder pad!



Let me know what you think

very well done

I agree. Very nice Styro.

It was a long process. The first part was research. Spent the previous week googling decals. I already knew about BoLS decal sheet printout for the Red Corsairs, but there must be someone selling actuall decals of the RCs. No luck! Okay so I'll do them myself. More searchy, tons of info online, but alot of horror stories too.

I end up sending and email to a local hobby shop that I go to for things I cant find. She gave me some info but decals wasn't their strong suit, but they had a few customers that were and she would make contact for me.

At this point I remember I dont have a printer. I havent used one in years and after the move, I deep sixed ours. They sell decal paper for both inkjet and Laser printers. So I figure I can just go to staples or if I have to I'll do it at work. So I know I need Laser paper.

I receive an email from the Hoppy shop that they will be at a plastic model contest and her customers should be there and could help me. So I went. She introduced me to a few peoplw and I got all the info I needed. Brand, type, technique etc. Turns out inkjet has better quality but the ink tends to run. You also want your image to be a made with vector graphics ==>Wiki link on Vector Graphics. Adobe products use it. BoLS decal sheet is in PDF, Win!.

Next thing you want to know is White background or clear. Almost all printers don't print white. They are designed to print on white paper. So if you use colour or any shade of grey then you need to use white paper. Grey for example uses the white background of the paper to make the black look lighter. The black becomes translucent. So if you use clear, the colour of the model WILL show through! But with white you have to cut the decal out very close to the edge and you will still get a white out line. For me the design is solid black. So clear is perfect for me.

Therefor I bought this:

3 sheets cost me $10. I could have gone online for cheaper.

Printing time. Oh ya I dont have one. I eventually went to Staples and they told me to take a hike! They refuse to use outside paper for liability reasons. Talking with my new friend and it turns out laser printers run hot and can melt the decal paper onto the heads. So you want to run it through the laser after its been off for a while. Therefore I snuck into work a few hours early to do it. Unfortunetly other employees were there too.
You have to do one sheet at a time and I didn't want to leave the sheet at the printer while I run back to my desk. Just incase some one else prints on my paper.

Brainstorm!!

I sent a test print to regular paper. It looks perfect. I take the print, put the sheet of decal paper in the printer.. and I photocopy the test page. Voila!!



I run back to my desk and hide to to let it dry. Took it home and gave it quick coat of clear gloss after it dried I gave it a second full coat. it was unessary but I gave it a third coat of satin clear coat. I waited for that to dry and yesterday I tested on that marine.

Success!!




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I forgot. Here is where I got the decal design at BoLS

http://www.belloflostsouls.net/2008/10/red-corsairsastral-claws-logo-sheet.html

They have other chapters as well

You know, I've had TERRIBLE luck with decal paper. Glad your experience was different. It looks fantastic!

Wow. Decal is excellent and the way you did it feels like the results are attainable for me. Thanks for sharing the process as well as the results. I'm going to tuck that one away and keep it for later.