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**Alfndrate**

Just Dave wrote:
They'll 'invent' Ultramarine-specific units when their book comes no doubt.
Or they may be elaborated upon in the Calth anthology, Betrayer or Unremembered Empire.

I mean at the moment there isn't many ultramarine specific things I want to own from Forgeworld, and giving me some heresey era stuff would be awesome

**Compel**

And here there was people swearing blind on this thread to me that there would never be Justerin Terminator models.

I think I'll definitely have to get some, though weapon decisions are hard...

**Alpharius**

Compel wrote:
And here there was people swearing blind on this thread to me that there would never be Justerin Terminator models.

There were?

**The Dark Apostle**

I'm really liking the justaerin termies! I hope the Phoenix guard and devourers get the same treatment. I wonder what's next for HH, flyers, tanks or another primarch. I'd say primarch as one is due. I estimated (it wasn't hard) that a primarch will come out every 3-4 months, for that term of HH before the next primarch all the advertisements will focus on that chapter. An example is how after angron came out all yanks that came out were in World Eaters colours.

**Compel**

Admittedly, it was a random guy, Crimsonfist whatever. But anyhows...

Yay Justerin!

**SickSix**

No one else is disappointed in fact that the MM is simply an adaption of the plastic one and not a 30k specfic model?

**MajorStoffer**

I never have, nor do I now like topknots.

That being said, they've produced some well detailed models so far, but nothing's tempted me so far.

Bog standard marines, while interesting in different marks of armour, are too expensive for me to bother with. At the end of the day, they're still just tactical marines, and while I'd like some Mk.IV suits (or Mk.8 if they ever come out), the models aren't really calling to me at that price.

I'd rather spend the same money for awesome DKoK or Elysian models, or the various Dreadnoughts or Terminator variants you know, stuff which isn't just normal marines with slightly different aesthetics and a massive price bump. I don't value a different helmet and chest piece to pay that much more.

Though I am curious as to see what the Imperial Army might get; they're mentioned, in brief, in the HH book, and I'm always keen for more IG variations. Basically, I just want well armoured guardsmen, which seems anathema to FW and GW.

**cincydooley**

For the ultras: in the new HH novel they form a spartan like phalanx with their troops. Could be a cool unit. I can see perhaps a Devourers weapons pack as opposed to a full out unit. Would make sense.

**H.B.M.C.**

warboss wrote:
A somewhat dubious source told me that they get a special legion specific bike squad.

Usually Smurf/Ultramarine jokes annoy me, but well played. I didn't see that coming. It made me chuckle.

As for what the Ultras could get, well there's one thing we haven't seen so far for these Cataphractii Termies - Cyclone Launchers. Maybe Ultras can get them, like the attached picture.

**Alpharius**

H.B.M.C. wrote:
warboss wrote:
A somewhat dubious source told me that they get a special legion specific bike squad.

Usually Smurf/Ultramarine jokes annoy me, but well played. I didn't see that coming. It made me chuckle.

As for what the Ultras could get, well there's one thing we haven't seen so far for these Cataphractii Termies - Cyclone Launchers. Maybe Ultras can get them, like the attached picture.

You beat me to the punch there H.B.M.C.!

I'd love to see Cataphractii Pattern Cyclones!

**warboss**

The proto-cyclone termies would be interesting indeed. Glad the joke was well recieved.

I'm personally waiting for some Blood Angels but I doubt they'll get any terminators as their specific unit but rather some precursor to sanguinary guard or somesuch.

**Commander Cain**

SickSix wrote:
No one else is disappointed in fact that the MM is simply an adaption of the plastic one and not a 30k specific model?

Yes! I thought I was just being picky but I was very surprised to see that it had no HH elements to it,

**Haighus**

Commander Cain wrote:
SickSix wrote:
No one else is disappointed in fact that the MM is simply an adaption of the plastic one and not a 30k specific model?

Yes! I thought I was just being picky but I was very surprised to see that it had no HH elements to it,

Not sure if I'd agree with that- the barrels are more pre-heresy than the normal 40K meltas as they have an extended part just after the cowling; and the fuel canister is in a pre-heresy style too.

**Alfndrate**

H.B.M.C. wrote:
warboss wrote:
A somewhat dubious source told me that they get a special legion specific bike squad.

Usually Smurf/Ultramarine jokes annoy me, but well played. I didn't see that coming. It made me chuckle.

As for what the Ultras could get, well there's one thing we haven't seen so far for these Cataphractii Termies - Cyclone Launchers. Maybe Ultras can get them, like the attached picture.

Awesome

I look forward to this possibility Thanks H.B.M.C

**cincydooley**

warboss wrote:
The proto-cyclone termies would be interesting indeed. Glad the joke was well recieved. I'm personally waiting for some Blood Angels but I doubt they'll get any terminators as their specific unit but rather some precursor to sanguinary guard or somesuch.

Based on Fear to Tread I have no idea. They already had sanguinary guard at that time, so I'd be surprised If they did special models when they already exist in plastic.

Legion Unit hopes:

Word Bearers - the Gal Vorbak. No question.
Salamanders - Fire Drakes
Iron Hands - Morlocks
Thousand Sons - the different schools/cults.
White Scars - Jet Bike hunters with those pole arms

Based on what we know from fluff on the the other legions, I can't think of specific units for them. I'd like to see:

Space wolves - pre- heresy rune priests and perhaps their leather covered thralls
Ultra marines - a phalanx style unit
Imperial fists - I got nothin.
Alpha legion - some kind of infiltrators; maybe even the humans.
Iron Warriors -pre-heresy war smiths?
Night lords - I got nothin. We barely know anything bout them pre heresy.

**Alpharius**

cincydooley wrote:

Night lords - I got nothin. We barely know anything bout them pre heresy.

Did you skip all of Aaron Dembski-Bowden's Night Lords books?!?

**Haighus**

Hmm, I expect that Imperial Fists will get some sort of first company terminator unit led by Sigismund, and probably with some sort of siege warfare speciality.

Space Wolves will most likely get a Wolf Guard unit as Leman Russes personal body guard, probably with a Bjorn the fell-handed heresy-era model. that would be awesome.

**gianlucafiorentini123**

Was just watching the istvaan iii video from FW about there board at GD, and noticed the terminator behind Angron is holding a weapon I've never seen before . Could it be a new kit?

**cincydooley**

Alpharius wrote:
cincydooley wrote:

Night lords - I got nothin. We barely know anything bout them pre heresy.

Did you skip all of Aaron Dembski-Bowden's Night Lords books?!?

No, but those aren't really pre-heresy. I mean, we know they'll be terrifying, and they'll probably use stealth. Sadly, the Night Lords are the pre heresy legion we know least about aside maybe the salamanders.

**Alpharius**

There's a lot of pre-Heresy info about the NL Legion in those books.

We know more about them pre-Heresy than we do many other Legions now!

**Just Dave**

They'd probably make a way to make the Altramentar unique I'd imagine...

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Alpharius wrote:
There's a lot of pre-Heresy info about the NL Legion in those books.

We know more about them pre-Heresy than we do many other Legions now!

But this too. Although they don't seem to have a particularly unique organisation, but rather 'style'.

**crimsonfist832**

gianlucafiorentini123 wrote:Was just watching the istvaan iii video from FW about there board at GD, and noticed the terminator behind Angron is holding a weapon I've never seen before . Could it be a new kit?

That looks like a standard Cataphractii Thunder Hammer too me mate. I was there at Games Day but for the life of my I can't remember what it was/is.

cincydooley wrote:Alpha legion - some kind of infiltrators; maybe even the humans.

Well Alpha Legion has the Lernaean Terminators Squads and the Effrit Stealth Squads, possibly even some Hydra operatives.

**Alpharius**

crimsonfist832 wrote:

cincydooley wrote:Alpha legion - some kind of infiltrators; maybe even the humans.

Well Alpha Legion has the Lernaean Terminators Squads and the Effrit Stealth Squads, possibly even some Hydra operatives.

I'd love all 3, but wouldn't be shocked if the Terminators don't get anything special.

I'd love a nice Stealth Squad though... And some operatives!

**cincydooley**

Yeah, I was thinking g of the effin it and the Hyrda squads.

Honesty, as long as we don't "simply" get specialized terminators for each I'm golden. Obviously it makes more sense of some than others (Morlocks and fire Drakes I'm looking at you) but I just want a bit more diversity in my POwer armor :-).

My focus is on the Space Wolves because that's the HH force I'm building, and I'm just hoping for something fun!

**The Dark Apostle**

Theres a page on the wiki that saids all tge prions elite termies/ primarch guards. If I find it I'll post a link.

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Here it is, at the end http://warhammer40k.wikia.com/wiki/Honour_Guard

**Compel**

Night Lords would likely have some less chaos-ey Warp Talons or raptors.

Plus perhaps the Atramentor? I've just started Prince of Crows and Sevatar does a pretty neat trick involving them....

**Haighus**

gianlucafiorentini123 wrote:
Was just watching the istvaan iii video from FW about there board at GD, and noticed the terminator behind Angron is holding a weapon I've never seen before . Could it be a new kit?

It appears to be a very large axe. Could be a conversion though- looks a little bit chaotic. The weapon is also in the models right hand, whereas all the weapon packs have the ccw as left-handed (except the lightning claw pairs). Could it be one of the special caedere weapons? Might be an excoriator chainaxe.

**Kanluwen**

Deathshroud Terminators

Forge World wrote:An elite cadre of warriors within the XIV Legion Astartes, the Deathshrouds were chosen by the Primarch Mortarion for their skill at arms, their fearlessness and their proven endurance. They were often selected from Death Guard legionaries who had survived where their comrades had fallen, each clad in bronze-chased Terminator plate, and armed with a power scythe and the alchem-munitions for which the Death Guard Legion were so darkly famed.

They formed a silent bodyguard for Mortarion and his senior commanders, and in peace or war alike it was said that at least two of their number remained within forty-nine paces of their Primarch at any time. The Deathshroud Terminators, designed by Will Hayes, contains five finely-detailed multi-part resin models, and the kit is available to pre-order now for despatch from the 25th January. Rules for using squads of these models in a Death Guard Legion force can be found in The Horus Heresy Book One: Betrayal. Available to pre-order now for despatch from the 25th of January.

Cerberus Heavy Tank Destroyer

Forge World wrote:An experimental variant tank, the Mechanicum used the Spartan’s internal capacity to mount a prototype Neutron Laser Projector and the sizeable atomantic arc-reactors and rad-shielding needed to operate this devastating weapon. The Neutron Laser Projector had been retro-engineered from Dark Age technology recovered at great cost by Mechanicum Explorators, and some controversy was evident over both its provenance and safety for wider dissemination.

Despite this, the Lords of Mars ruled that the new tank, codified the Cerberus Heavy Tank Destroyer, should be delivered into the service of the Legiones Astartes for battlefield testing. The Neutron Laser, they believed, offered a more compact alternative to the great Turbo-Lasers used by Titans and the mighty Shadowsword, with a greater potential for collateral damage. It would not be long, however, before the Cerberus was called upon to turn its destructive capacity against the Imperium’s own...

Designed by Phil Stutcinskas, the Cerberus Heavy Tank Destroyer is a finely-detailed, multi-part resin kit. Rules for fielding this potent war machine alongside a Space Marine Legion force can be found in The Horus Heresy Book One: Betrayal. Available to pre-order now for despatch from the 25th of January.

**H.B.M.C.**

The interesting part about that new tank is the paint scheme - Iron Hands.

And those are some sexy Terminators.

**deleted20250424**

H.B.M.C. wrote:
The interesting part about that new tank is the paint scheme - Iron Hands.

That's the first thing I noticed as well.