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These are great: https://www.eccentricminiatures.com/adapterrings.html

 Morathi's Darkest Sin wrote:
On a side note, I had half an hour this morning, so threw up this quick guide of what I've been doing for a number of years. (Since 32mm came in and I started rebasing models for look, quite a lot of which are now correctly based)

Showing what I mean seems better than trying to explain it.

Spoiler:

Cool guide. How long does it take you to get a base to look like that? I have quite a few AOBR boyz with slotted bases, I imagine that they are a lot harder to get them as flat.


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 Nurglitch wrote:
These are great: https://www.eccentricminiatures.com/adapterrings.html

Hum, roughly $100 for all my boyz, lootas and burnas... I've seen worse offers.

Don't forget that GW does sell the Blood Bowl 32mm slotted bases separately. 12 to a set, 4,50 Euros.

You'd have to use a bit of green stuff or some kind of filler material to cover up the excess space on the edges and the bit for where the ball can be slotted in but otherwise it's an option for slottabases if you don't want to file things flat.

Hmm, those rings might be handy for some of my non-boyz who are still on 25mm, like my Tankbustas, Lootas and Burnas (assuming that they don't remain useless in the new codex too, my Burnas have been sitting on the shelf gathering dust for the past 3 years, so I haven't seen the need to rebase them).

Still, that's around 40 models, so it's a lot of work regardless of how I do it.

 Kanluwen wrote:
Don't forget that GW does sell the Blood Bowl 32mm slotted bases separately. 12 to a set, 4,50 Euros.

You'd have to use a bit of green stuff or some kind of filler material to cover up the excess space on the edges and the bit for where the ball can be slotted in but otherwise it's an option for slottabases if you don't want to file things flat.

Ah, I wasn't clear - those boyz are still glued firmly in place, you can't get them back out of the slot.

Fair enough then! I've been having to do a lot of mucking about with slot base models of late so it's been basically just freeze->flathead screwdriver and pop the base apart if it was superglued or clipping the sides and pulling the old bases apart if it was plastic glue.

 Mr_Rose wrote:
Hmm. I think one or two boxes, scattered in with the rest of the ladz, will do me right.

This is exactly my plan.. scatter them thru the current groups I have, they will blend like a vitamix..

And you won't damage the feet of or break the legs of your models.

 Blackie wrote:

AllSeeingSkink wrote:


They don't look like much less work than just trimming the old base off and gluing down to a new one.

Because you're assuming that the old bases are unpainted. Painting like 200-300 new bases just to put orks on 32mm instead of 25mm, like I would have to do if I go down that path, is a huge amount of work. That's why I suggest buying the adapters as an alternative, they're basically the same cost than cheap bases but no effort to update the models.

No, I'm assuming the old bases are painted and you intend to also paint the base extension the same way.

You either attach the base extension, then add fresh basing material to the new part.... or you just clip the model off its old base and then add fresh basing material to the whole base.

I don't see where the big time saving is unless you intend to just leave the 3.5mm strip raw and unfinished.

It doesn't take long to clip a model off its old base, just use a decent pair of clippers and a few snips you're good to go, even if it's a slotta base model I've never had too many problems.

I can't imagine how basing any sort of extension to seamlessly match the existing basing could possibly be easier than just basing the whole new base.

For the Eccentric Miniatures base extenders I linked to you clip the extender off its sprue, add a dab of glue to your base, and push the extenders into place around the 25mm base. There might be some scraping involved to make sure that any plastic cement you're using to connect the base to the extender gets the base rather than any paint over it.

AllSeeingSkink wrote:


I don't see where the big time saving is unless you intend to just leave the 3.5mm strip raw and unfinished.

Yeah, I intend to leave the 3.5mm strip raw of course. That's because I consider my models on 25mm finished and perfect as they are, the adapters have only one purpose: to make the models legal in competitive games if someone demands the current size of the bases. That's it, I don't glue the adapters to the base.

I got the adapters and sometimes I use them but typically I just play with the models on 25mm.

 lord_blackfang wrote:
I can't imagine how basing any sort of extension to seamlessly match the existing basing could possibly be easier than just basing the whole new base.

It's mostly about not destroying models glued on with plastic glue. I have learned my lesson and went back to gluing models onto bases with super-glue.


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 Blackie wrote:

AllSeeingSkink wrote:


I don't see where the big time saving is unless you intend to just leave the 3.5mm strip raw and unfinished.

Yeah, I intend to leave the 3.5mm strip raw of course. That's because I consider my models on 25mm finished and perfect as they are, the adapters have only one purpose: to make the models legal in competitive games if someone demands the current size of the bases. That's it, I don't glue the adapters to the base.

I got the adapters and sometimes I use them but typically I just play with the models on 25mm.

In games where people care about base size, you are pretty much guaranteed to lose 10VP if you leave the adapters unpainted.

 Jidmah wrote:


Cool guide. How long does it take you to get a base to look like that? I have quite a few AOBR boyz with slotted bases, I imagine that they are a lot harder to get them as flat.

Not too long, that would took me less than a couple of minutes, just took half hour due to taking the pics in stages and sorting the overall guide. I'll do the rest of the squad later and time how long it takes exactly.

As to slotted ones, those are sadly always much more of a pain, I have done it, but it tends to end up either a long winded affair or goes wrong and ends up with the figure just being reset on a fresh base as I worked through the base to their feet. It is potentiality doable, when I rebased all my Nobz down from 40mm to 32mm (something I regret with the changes to Boyz base sizes inbound) I clipped off all the under base parts on about twenty 40MM rounds and cut the base down to fit on a 32mm, so you wouldn't be clipping much more off to get to the flat base. It was annoying mind, and I do think the rings folks are mentioning would be easier in that case.

Honestly my solution works best on the bases where the model is stuck to the surface, and its just removing the sides and gluing flat to the fresh base.



edit...

Just did the other fourteen in the squad, had to fiddle as the guy at the back with the Eldar cannon had bits of superglued metal to keep him upright on the 25mm (doesn't need it on the 32) but all done in 43mins.



I'm happy with that.

Will do the other two Loota squads tomorrow.

 Jidmah wrote:
It's mostly about not destroying models glued on with plastic glue. I have learned my lesson and went back to gluing models onto bases with super-glue.

Now that's a life hack to remember

(actually I've just stocked up on bulk GW sized bases from Aliexpress, they're great matches but they are ABS, so I have to superglue anyway...)

Why in the hell would you rebase everything? My RTB-01 and those of similar era are on 25's and gonna stay that way.
GW has no requirement to do so, so why?

Racerguy180 wrote:
Why in the hell would you rebase everything? My RTB-01 and those of similar era are on 25's and gonna stay that way.
GW has no requirement to do so, so why?

Personally, I like the consistency. And the balance. Also, some models really do look better on larger bases (like genestealers particularly, even though they aren't on 32s).

But then I cheat- There are a lot of workarounds.
I cut cardboard circles to 32mm, glue the old base in the middle and build the edges up with tile grout. For repurposing slotta bases, I use an old old trick with of just gluing paper down over the gaps (it gets covered by basing sand anyway, so it doesn't matter). Lots of old slotta bases didn't get filled by the model's tabs anyway.

Racerguy180 wrote:
Why in the hell would you rebase everything? My RTB-01 and those of similar era are on 25's and gonna stay that way.
GW has no requirement to do so, so why?

I always felt the Necrons for example looked terrible on 25mm, certains Orks also looked odd, why I original based my Nobz on 40mm because they looked silly on 25mm.. so for me its mostly about look. The larger footprint actually makes you think they look bigger, and its why I had my vehicles on bases long before GW started doing it because they had lost that few mm in height next to the troops on bases when they were not.

So yeah, for me its about the look. Hell in Blood Bowl 2016 I still put all the big guys on 40mm as they too in my mind look silly on 32. I'm just feeling validated as GW keeps moving things onto 32s which look a lot better with no overhanging feet etc.

I just don't like the idea of needing to redo a model that I completed in 1991.

Especially so if I had 100+ of them to do.

Then don't?

Just because you don't want to do it does not mean that others will not.

Let's not pretend you can play at anything above your home kitchen table level with incorrect bases.

 lord_blackfang wrote:
Let's not pretend you can play at anything above your home kitchen table level with incorrect bases.

Given "use the base the model came with" is the closest I've seen to guidance as to "correct bases"...

Why? There is no GW rule that says you need to rebase anything. So why are these "above" Kitchen table people not going by some GW rules?

Everytime I include my entire RT army( 25 marines) in any of the games I've played @ flgs they have been fun. They get picked up more than my much better painted plastic MkIII or Primaris on 32s.
No modeling for advantage, just a progression.

Do whichever you want but it's not due to GW making you...this time!

 Nurglitch wrote:
For the Eccentric Miniatures base extenders I linked to you clip the extender off its sprue, add a dab of glue to your base, and push the extenders into place around the 25mm base. There might be some scraping involved to make sure that any plastic cement you're using to connect the base to the extender gets the base rather than any paint over it.

Yeah I used the Eccentric Mini base rings as well. Also took the time to use some coloured spray to paint batches of 30 different colours. I'm sort of pedantic about colour coding my squads.

Racerguy180 wrote:
There is no GW rule that says you need to rebase anything.

Funny you should say that.

Games Workshop's Warhammer World rules, page 4 wrote:The models in my army used to be supplied with a smaller base than they are currently supplied with, do I needto rebase to the new size?

As above, the bases our miniatures are supplied with are the bases the game rules are designed around, so any older base sizes do need to be upgraded. However we understand this can take time, so if the base size changes for a model kit, any events within a month of the change are exempt from resizing, though we would certainly encourage it.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

Racerguy180 wrote:
There is no GW rule that says you need to rebase anything.

Funny you should say that.

Games Workshop's Warhammer World rules, page 4 wrote:The models in my army used to be supplied with a smaller base than they are currently supplied with, do I needto rebase to the new size?

As above, the bases our miniatures are supplied with are the bases the game rules are designed around, so any older base sizes do need to be upgraded. However we understand this can take time, so if the base size changes for a model kit, any events within a month of the change are exempt from resizing, though we would certainly encourage it.

Warhammer World is the special exception here because it's THE center of the Games Workshop universe. I wouldn't expect anything less at that particular location. From what I've heard, you also can't use third-party bits on your miniatures there. The entire place is designed so that everything funnels you directly back into GW for all your shopping needs.

That's only due to the fact that you consent to be photographed when you go in, so they can't use you for promotional material if you're not 100% current.

 lord_blackfang wrote:
Let's not pretend you can play at anything above your home kitchen table level with incorrect bases.

That 'official events at Warhammer World' is the first indication that anyone has ever given of that being the case.

Most people/places I've played with just don't care, because GW can't be bothered to drop a list of base sizes for most games, and keep creating new random sizes every year or so.
I fully expecting things on the shelf/warehouse right now to have 'wrong' base sizes in them.

Actually, I know for a fact that's true:
https://www.games-workshop.com/en-US/Seekers-of-Slaanesh
https://www.games-workshop.com/en-US/Start-Collecting-Daemons-of-Slaanesh

Seekers have different bases depending on which box they're in.

 Jidmah wrote:


In games where people care about base size, you are pretty much guaranteed to lose 10VP if you leave the adapters unpainted.

I never heard of losing 10VPs for bringing unpainted adapters. Technically they're not part of the base, it would be up to the TO to determine whether they count or not in order to consider the model battle ready. But striclty RAW they are not part of the base, they're something added to the base just to match the correct footprint (which can be requested only by house rules since there's no offical table with the appropriate bases anywhere in the rules), so it doesn't matter if they are painted or not.

In a friendly game someone that demands the loss of 10VP for bringing adapters is definitely some kind of TFG that should be avoided anyway .

My suggestion is for those who feel like they're forced to update the bases and don't want to do it. I use adapters when I play against players that are testing lists for tournaments, they want the updated base sizes but since we're still playing friendly games they're not gonna argue about the "battle ready issue" of course. I know someone who brought adapters to local tournaments during 8th and they were allowed without penalty.


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 H.B.M.C. wrote:

Racerguy180 wrote:
There is no GW rule that says you need to rebase anything.

Funny you should say that.

Using older bases size is not like altering or downsizing anything, it's playing with the miniatures exactly like they were released.

AllSeeingSkink wrote:

 stahly wrote:
There are also hard plastic 25 to 32 mm adapter rings which are quite good, here is a tutorial: https://taleofpainters.com/2016/08/review-tabletop-adapters-32mm-base/

But it's still an effort, as you need to fill the seams with liquid greenstuff for a smooth result.

They don't look like much less work than just trimming the old base off and gluing down to a new one.

Especially if you have base style that has geometrical shapes. Extending the basing over the trims can often mean it's simply easier to do the whole base.

Or if you use the roll over pins over modeling mass...how you are supposed to extend THAT over trims so it blends in?

And then of course comes movement trays. That would up couple hundred bucks more.

If that requirement spreads I just shelf the orks instead. Eeasier and cheaper(or actually profitable. Sell army instead)


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 Blackie wrote:

AllSeeingSkink wrote:


They don't look like much less work than just trimming the old base off and gluing down to a new one.

Because you're assuming that the old bases are unpainted. Painting like 200-300 new bases just to put orks on 32mm instead of 25mm, like I would have to do if I go down that path, is a huge amount of work. That's why I suggest buying the adapters as an alternative, they're basically the same cost than cheap bases but no effort to update the models.

If your bases are painted that's lot MORE effort. If it's unpainted base then these are not much work. If the bases are already done then this is more work.


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 Nurglitch wrote:
For the Eccentric Miniatures base extenders I linked to you clip the extender off its sprue, add a dab of glue to your base, and push the extenders into place around the 25mm base. There might be some scraping involved to make sure that any plastic cement you're using to connect the base to the extender gets the base rather than any paint over it.

Then you also need to cover the top so that it matches the base.

So in my case add in cobblestone, dirt, bits. And paint.

Would I have 25mm bases with say ice theme I use for my AOS chaos that I would need...ummm...put modeling clay over the edges and...ummmmmmmmmm...(thinks real hard)....sculpt the cracks by hand? Can't see how I could even fit the roller over it let alone get it look like it fits as odds are I couldn't put on exact location needed.