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 kodos wrote:
Dudeface wrote:
 kodos wrote:
 privateer4hire wrote:
How long before one page rules gets a letter?

For their rules, never
For the models, it looks like GW has a list and is sending letters one by one, maybe soon, maybe never

So we have a couple of claims of ebay items falsely keywords with warhammer being pulled. Where is the evidence of this list of sculptors being shut down?

you mean like the other 16 pages of this topic and the other topic talking about GW going after patreons that were a little bit too similar?


No, there was 1 mistaken cease of monetisation on MWM discussed in here, that's literally it. Nobody can provide a solid list of people that GW have "shut down" because thus far, there isn't anyone that's been targeted that heavily.
   
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Austria

who was talking about people being shut down?

it was about getting a letter from GW, and there were more than 1

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 kodos wrote:
who was talking about people being shut down?

it was about getting a letter from GW, and there were more than 1


Can you provide a brief list of the people contacted & in what capacity? It's good to have a solid frame of reference going forwards.
   
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Dudeface wrote:
 kodos wrote:
who was talking about people being shut down?

it was about getting a letter from GW, and there were more than 1


Can you provide a brief list of the people contacted & in what capacity? It's good to have a solid frame of reference going forwards.


Oh man the cycle has begun again! First we deny it happens, then we claim its good/justified that it is happening!

Can't wait, keep up the good work!
   
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privateer4hire wrote:How long before one page rules gets a letter?
A C&D letter being longer than the "compressed" rules would actually be really funny. I know that those letter are usually rather terse but one can dream.
   
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caladancid wrote:

Oh man the cycle has begun again! First we deny it happens, then we claim its good/justified that it is happening!

Can't wait, keep up the good work!

Or people don't want to look through 16 pages of hyperbole, overreaction, and general nerd rage. If you are so sure of your position, then you should be glad to provide evidence for someone who asks, rather than dismissing them.

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caladancid wrote:
Dudeface wrote:
 kodos wrote:
who was talking about people being shut down?

it was about getting a letter from GW, and there were more than 1


Can you provide a brief list of the people contacted & in what capacity? It's good to have a solid frame of reference going forwards.


Oh man the cycle has begun again! First we deny it happens, then we claim its good/justified that it is happening!

Can't wait, keep up the good work!


Just asking for the evidence that anything is happening because unsubstantiated generic evil GW statements and bs sarcastic responses like yours don't help.

If you want them to be held accountable for their actions, collate data and present it. Better yet after all this time a rounding up of impacted people is required.

I await this list of impacted people.
   
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Austria

https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/799895.page

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How is linking a 7-page thread helpful when a list was asked for?
Also lol, the first post has 3 "Patreons" listed, they aren't even named. Strong start I must say.

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Austria

because nothing ever happend
(not like the 1st post lists 3 patreons but whatever)

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 kodos wrote:
https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/799895.page


Flicked through it and at a glance it seems the majority of those affected were done so with a degree of truth to the claim. The first post is 3 people stopping voluntarily, some kickstarters that mimic gw armies closely and some creators that admit they took down "sculpts that resemble space marines".
   
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 Overread wrote:
beast_gts wrote:
 Orlanth wrote:
I am not seeing anything on any of Doctor Faust's channels ( I cannot check Facebook as I have nor want any Facebook account).
It's on FB - below is a copy from another site:

Spoiler:


So advertising a 3D print as an AoS Mancrusher Gargant gets it taken down.


Yes, which is also the same for cast models as well, which is why they all have different names. If the name is unique enough and GW can copyright/trademark/IP protect it then they will. It's annoying, but at the same time expected. It's why there are slowly developing a few alternate name lists out there which are commonly "used" to describe things and like as not as things grow most GW models will have an "alternate 3rd party name" that is commonly used between designers enough that it will be generally known in the community and searched for.


I’d be curious to see the exact wording he used.

Not an IP lawyer, but isn’t it fine to use keywords that might be trademarked when selling your goods, so long as it’s absolutely clear you’re not actually the official product and there’s no brand confusion?

Like, you can make a part to replace a Ford part and use the word Ford when advertising it. If Ford decide to name their timing belt a camshaft synchronator, then I imagine you’d also be able to use that term when selling a Ford timing belt so long as it’s absolutely clear you aren’t pretending to be Ford to confuse customers.

I don’t really see how this is different, as long as it’s very clear that it’s a 3D printed part with non-GW origins and is artistically distinct from GW designs, why not make it clear that it is scaled and based appropriately to be used in Warhammer as a Mega-whatever-hell-it-is?

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The exact wording is important, yes. As is the reasoning for the removal. You can absolutely use trademarked words in a listing and that was one of the very clear rulings in the Chapterhouse case - saying something is "compatible with GW's Storm Raven" is absolutely fine, mainly because it's a statement of fact. However, if you're using trademarked terms in a way that may imply your product is made by the same company, or it could be interpreted that way, you're on shakier ground. I believe eBay also has rules around spamming key words and phrases in descriptions.

As with a lot of IP law, there are a lot of grey areas and the specifics matter. The big companies like YouTube, eBay etc tend to err on the side of caution when a potential infringement is brought to their attention. There are ways to challenge claims against you but the onus is on the alleged infringer to prove they're not at fault, which is a big weakness of the current system.
   
 
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