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Ichor-Dripping Talos Monstrosity






This is going to be the sounding board for my Sisters of Battle Extended Codex.
(My Extended Codexes are basically supplements, adding to the existing codex but not changing anything in it.)

You can basically ignore all this and see below.
Repentia Superior
Spoiler:
FO: N/A
Squad: Repentia Superior
May replace any Mistress of Repentance
Unit: Repentia Superior, Points Per: 10, Models: 1, Unit Type: Infantry (Character),
WS-4, BS-4, S-3, T-3, W-2, I-3, A-3, Ld-9, Sv-6+*.
Wargear:
Eviscerator
Frag Grenades
Krak Grenades

Special Rules:
( C: Precision Shots )
( C: Precision Strikes )
( C: Look Out, Sir (4+) )
Acts of Faith
Fearless
Feel No Pain
Fleet
Rage
Shield of Faith
Soul of the Martyr
Zealot
( Z: Fearless )
( Z: Hatred )

Soul of the Martyr:
The Repentia Superior and her make one final push to repay their enemy in kind.
This Act of Faith is used in the Assault Phase.
If successful, do not remove any models in the unit if they are killed before they have attacked.
Instead place them on their side.
After all other models involved in the assault have made their attacks, any mortally injured model placed on its side gets to make its full attacks, with no bonuses for charging.
After these attacks have been made, any models on their side are removed as casualties.
Remember that she replaces the Mistress of Repentance, it's a 32pt model.
Basically replacing the Sister with a 'veteran' Repentia with 2 wounds and an improved Act of Faith.

Contritioness
Spoiler:
FO: HQ
Squad: Contritioness
Unit: Repentia Superior, Points Per: 100, Models: 1, Unit Type: Infantry (Character),
WS-5, BS-4, S-3, T-3, W-3, I-3, A-4, Ld-10, Sv-3+/6+*.
The Contritioness may take a Retinue of 2-9 Repentia
Mistress of Contrition:
Repentia Squads become Troops choices

Wargear:
Power Armour
Eviscerator
Frag Grenades
Krak Grenades

Special Rules:
( C: Precision Shots )
( C: Precision Strikes )
Acts of Faith
Feel No Pain
Rage
Rampage
Zealot
( Z: Fearless )
( Z: Hatred )
Charge of the Sorrows
Shield of Faith

Charge of the Sorrows:
The Contritioness goads her fellows into a fervant rage, as they fly across the battlefield.
This Act of Faith is used in the Shooting Phase.
If successful, the unit can Run then Assault.

Repentia Canoness!
NO OPTIONS!
Because Eviscerators are cool.

Sister Katterin Magdelene
Spoiler:
FO: HQ
Squad: Sister Katterin Magdelene
Unit: Sister Katterin, Points Per: 120, Models: 1*, Unit Type: Infantry (Character),
WS-5, BS-4, S-4, T-3, W-4, I-3, A-4(5), Ld-10, Sv-3+/6+*.
Sister Katterin Magdelene may take a Retinue of 2-9 Repentia
Arch-Mistress of Repentance:
Repentia Squads become Troops choices
You may take one Penitent Engine for each Repentia Squad. These Penitent Engines are each a seperate squad.
These squads does not use up a Force Organisation chart selection.

Wargear:
Power Armour
Fury and Repentance
Frag Grenades
Krak Grenades

Special Rules:
( C: Precision Shots )
( C: Precision Strikes )
Acts of Faith
Independent Character
( IC: Look Out, Sir (2+) )
( IC: Heroic Morale )
Feel No Pain
Rage
Rampage
Zealot
( Z: Fearless )
( Z: Hatred )
Fury of the Unforgiven
Shield of Faith

Fury of the Unforgiven:

Fury and Repentance:
Twin custom Eviscerators, wielded with righteous rage, they have the following profiles:
Fury:
Range-, Str-User x2, AP-2, Type-Melee, Shred, Unwieldy, Specialist Weapon.
Repentance:
Range-, Str-User +2, AP-1, Type-Melee, Armourbane, Unwieldy, Specialist Weapon.

Fury of the Unforgiven:
Such is the fervour and devotion with which Sister Magdelene fights and inspires her squad, that they refuse to fall in combat, pushing themselves ever harder to destroy the enemies of the Emperor
This act of Faith is used in the Assault Phase.
If successful, the unit may re-roll any failed Feel No Pain rolls until the end of the phase.
Not just 6 squads of Repentia, but an extra 6 Penitent Engines too!
Valeriya the Damned + Penitent Defenders
Spoiler:
FO: HQ
Squad: Valeriya the Damned
Unit: Valeriya the Damned, Points Per: 160, Models: 1*, Vehicle Type: Walker, Open-Topped,
WS-5, BS-3, S-5(10), FA-12, SA-11, RA-10, HP-4 , I-3, A-D6+3.
Valeriya the Damned may take a retinue of Penitent Defenders
You may take up to two squads of Penitent Engines as Troops.

Wargear:
Four Dreadnought CCW
( FDCCW: Four Heavy Flamers)

Special Rules:
Rage
Battle Frenzy
Unstoppable Rampage
Shield of Faith
It Will Not Die

Squad: Penitent Defender
Unit: Penitent Defender, Points Per: 95, Models: 1-2, Vehicle Type: Walker, Open-Topped,
WS-4, BS-2, S-5(10), FA-11, SA-11, RA-10, HP-3 , I-3, A-D6+1.
Wargear:
Two Dreadnought CCW
( TDCCW: Two Heavy Bolters)
( TDCCW: Two Heavy Flamers)

Special Rules:
Rage
Battle Frenzy
Unstoppable Rampage
Shield of Faith
And a new idea - Penitent HQ, that gives you 2 Troop Slot Penitent slots and some Bodyguards.
Make a legal army of 18 Penitent Engines!

All works in progress, with little to no background info yet, so thoughts and comments appreciated.

Added:
Spoiler:
FO: Fast Attack
Squad: Penitent Avenger
Unit: Penitent Avenger, Points Per: 110, Models: 1-3, Vehicle Type: Walker, Open-Topped, Jump,
WS-4, BS-2, S-5(10), FA-11, SA-11, RA-10, HP-3 , I-3, A-D6+1.
Wargear:
Two Dreadnought CCW
( TDCCW: Four Bolters)
( TDCCW: Two Flamers)
Jump Pack

Special Rules:
( J: Skyborne )
( J: Hammer of Wrath* )
( J: Deep Strike )
Rage
Battle Frenzy
Unstoppable Rampage
Shield of Faith

+9 Engines!

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Repentia Mistress





Not to poop on the party, but I can't say I agree with the concept of a Veteran Repentia, a Repentia Canoness, or a Penitent HQ. They're essentially death sentences, especially being strapped into a Penitent Engine.

Similarly, I think it is possible to fight your way out of the Repentia, but at that point you've earned back the right to be a Battle Sister, you wouldn't become a "Veteran Repentia".

It just seems a little weird.
   
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Gunblaze West

Amerikon wrote:
Not to poop on the party, but I can't say I agree with the concept of a Veteran Repentia, a Repentia Canoness, or a Penitent HQ. They're essentially death sentences, especially being strapped into a Penitent Engine.

Similarly, I think it is possible to fight your way out of the Repentia, but at that point you've earned back the right to be a Battle Sister, you wouldn't become a "Veteran Repentia".

It just seems a little weird.
I would see it as a representation of their own extreme faith....... they (probably) would believe the emperor saved them.... some of those might try to lead fellow repentia to that same salvation, i can see it but YMMV

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I was seeing a Veteran Repentia as one who has survived numerous battles, but still doesn't believe herself absolved, and so continues fighting, or perhaps it is one of those few on the road to absolution?

Same to the 'Canoness', though you could just say it's a Canoness who is repentant, or maybe an order that became?

But these had exactly zero fluff so far, so this helps. If you have any other questions / ideas / fluff justifications, bring it up!

As for Valeriya (Penitent HQ), she's got extra armour, and when I model it will be enclosed in a more Iron-Maideny type coffin, protecting her from death - her crime being so extreme she is to suffer for so much longer.

I need to work on the fluff, and possibly actually read some more, as my actual knowledge of sisters lore is rather limited - I've worked extensively with the rules however.

Comments on the balance of the units would be good too, unless they're fine, in which case awesome!

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I can see the idea of a Canoness who had forsaken her office and joined the Repentia although it might make sense from a fluff perspective that she wouldn't be an Independent Character. Maybe she could have a retinue of other Repentia, but wouldn't be able to use Look Out Sir! since that runs counter to the goals of the Repentia. Similarly anyone who is in the Repentia wouldn't really be exercising any leadership.

As for the Penitent Engine character, PEs aren't a death sentence because you're strapped to the front w/o any armor, it's because you're in them at all. The person who's "operating" the engine is basically already dead, they're just jacked full of chemicals that make them feel crazy rageguilt. Once the battle's over, if the engine's not destroyed, the "pilot" is basically a husk.
   
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From what little I can find searching it, if they survive the battle they get thrown back into battle till they do, the chemicals forcing them to be superguilty about it the whole time.

Still, it's not inconceivable in my eyes, that someones crime was so heinous that they were granted a living tomb, with a different composition of chemicals meant to extend the life and suffering of this most heinous criminal.

Not sure what would be the crime? Causing the negligent death of almost her entire order, the survivors becoming repentia?
Betrayel of some sort...

I like the idea of the non-IC Contritioness with the Repentia Retinue.

Also - St. Celestine is/was a Repentia for what it's worth.

Also, also, at the end of the day, Valeriya is my favourite idea so far, so even if I have to change it up, I'll find a way to make it work. : D

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Sister Vastly Superior




I feel like a dedicated sisters flyer with maybe a pair of torrent heavy flamers and a multimelta, would fit quite well, ido realise the weakness of that loadout (and for the love of god, forward arc only the flamers at least) but it would fit the theme without breaking anything

I collect:
Guard - 2k of mostly infantry
DA - 2k of deathwing, 2k of other bits (no vehicles)
Sisters - mostly converted/proxy because I'm waiting for therange to go plastic.
Tau - 2k with no riptides because I can. 
   
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I'll add it to the list, and see what can be done.

Also - 460 views and not one comment on balance...
Are they all perfectly fine?
I mean, my ego isn't so large that I expect my pricing and rules to be perfect without input from others!

   
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And now, updating to the 6th ed Adepta Sororitas book!

Starting with the HQ variant - Valeriya the Damned.
Spoiler:
Army: Adepta Sororitas (Sisters of Battle)
BG: Valeriya the Damned - The unforgiven one.
She who gave the command that damned an entire Order of the Faithful.
Interred in a specially modified Penitent Engine designed to be her tomb, extending her suffering rather than ending it quickly, she lives in internal torment - the only small respite felt each time she rends the enemies of the Imperium.
Valeriya's four armed Penitent Engine bears an Iron Maiden style tomb encasing the front, protecting her from a merciful death.

FO: HQ
Squad: Valeriya the Damned
Unit: Valeriya the Damned, Points Per: 200, Models: 1*, Vehicle Type: Walker (Character),
WS-5, BS-3, S-5(10), FA-12, SA-11, RA-10, HP-4 , I-3, A-3(6).
Valeriya the Damned may not be used to fulfil the the Mandatory HQ slot on a Force Organisation Chart and cannot be selected as the Warlord of an army.
Valeriya the Damned may take a retinue of up to two Penitent Defenders.
You may take up to two squads of Penitent Engines as Troops.

Wargear:
Four Dreadnought CCW
( FDCCW: Four Heavy Flamers)

Special Rules:
( C: Precision Shots )
( C: Precision Strikes )
( C: Look Out, Sir (4+) )
Rage
Battle Frenzy
Unstoppable
Shield of Faith
It Will Not Die

Battle Frenzy:
For every unsaved Wound Valeriya the Damned inflicts in Close Combat, she immediately makes an additional attack.
These extra attacks do not generate further additional attacks in the same way.
Costing
Spoiler:
Penitent Engine - Adjusted 105
+Unlocks +10
-MainHQ/Warlord -10
+Character +10
+1WS +10
+1BS +10
+1FA +10
+1HP +10
+2DCCW +50
+2Heavy Flamer +20
+Battle Frenzy +15
+IWND +10
Sub-total: 250
Penitent: Reduced by 20%
Total: 200
+40pts over her 5th ed counterpart.

I decided that she should get to keep Battle Frenzy, being a Special Character.
In turn, I've made it so she can no longer be the Madatory HQ and Warlord - though if people think that her being a Mandatory HQ and Warlord is fine, then I'm happy to drop it!

But she allows you to bring 2 squads of Peni's as troops, freeing up those Heavy Slots, and can bring a pair of Defenders (regular Penitent Engines with Heavy Bolters), that I will add presently.

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I'm going to do something I don't normally do, and break it up with Quote Boxes to make it easier to read.
HQ
Repentant Canoness Special Character:
Spoiler:
The Sister Katterin Magdelene is a Contritioness who was second in command to Valeriya in the Order of the En dernier Défi before it was damned, and one of the few surviving members of the original group.
Wielding twin Eviscerators (one heavier and dedicated to destroying armour on vehicles, the other finer with twin chains for rending flesh), she marches on, leading her forces in their endless torment.

FO: HQ
Squad: Sister Katterin Magdelene
Unit: Sister Katterin, Points Per: 175, Models: 1*, Unit Type: Infantry (Character),
WS-5, BS-4, S-4, T-3, W-4, I-3, A-4(5), Ld-10, Sv-3+/6+*.
Sister Katterin Magdelene may take a Retinue of 2-9 Repentia
Arch-Mistress of Repentance:
Repentia Squads become Troops choices
You may take one Penitent Engine for each Repentia Squad. These Penitent Engines are each a seperate squad.
These squads does not use up a Force Organisation chart selection.
Sister Katterin does not benefit from the Look Out Sir rule.

Wargear:
Power Armour
Fury and Penance
Frag Grenades
Krak Grenades

Special Rules:
( C: Precision Shots )
( C: Precision Strikes )
Acts of Faith
Independent Character
( IC: Heroic Morale )
Rage
Rampage
Zealot
( Z: Fearless )
( Z: Hatred )
Fury of the Unforgiven
Shield of Faith

Fury and Repentance:
Twin custom Eviscerators, wielded with righteous rage, they have the following profiles:
Fury:
Range-, Str-User x2, AP-2, Type-Melee, Shred, Unwieldy, Specialist Weapon.
Repentance:
Range-, Str-User +2, AP-1, Type-Melee, Armourbane, Unwieldy, Specialist Weapon.

Fury of the Unforgiven:
Such is the fervour and devotion with which Sister Magdelene fights and inspires her squad, that they refuse to fall in combat, pushing themselves ever harder to destroy the enemies of the Emperor
This act of Faith is used in the Assault Phase.
If successful, the unit gains +1WS and +1 Attack until the end of the phase.
Costing:
Spoiler:
Canoness - 65
-1BS -10
+1S +10
+1W +10
-1I -10
+1A +10
+Unlock +10
-LoS -5
+2 Eviscerators +60
+Shred +10
+Rampage +10
+Zealot +15
Total: 175
She makes Repentia troops, but also gives the option of taking 1 Penitent Engine per squad of Repentia.
Contritioness
Spoiler:
Army: Adepta Sororitas (Sisters of Battle)
BG: A Contritioness is a Canoness repentant, for when the mighty have fallen, their experience may still be required.
Wielding an eviscerator and wearing 'cut down' Power Armour, so she may still feel the pain of her position, while living long enough to lead her force against the foe.

FO: HQ
Squad: Contritioness
Unit: Repentia Superior, Points Per: 100, Models: 1, Unit Type: Infantry (Character),
WS-5, BS-4, S-3, T-3, W-3, I-3, A-4, Ld-10, Sv-3+/6+*.
The Contritioness may take a Retinue of 2-9 Repentia
Mistress of Contrition:
Repentia Squads become Troops choices
The Contritioness does not benefit from the Look Out Sir rule.

Wargear:
Power Armour
Eviscerator
Frag Grenades
Krak Grenades

Special Rules:
( C: Precision Shots )
( C: Precision Strikes )
Acts of Faith
Independent Character
( IC: Heroic Morale )
Rage
Rampage
Zealot
( Z: Fearless )
( Z: Hatred )
Charge of the Sorrows
Shield of Faith

Charge of the Sorrows:
The Contritioness goads her fellows into a fervant rage, as they fly across the battlefield.
This Act of Faith is used in the Shooting Phase.
If successful, the unit can Run then Assault.
Costing
Spoiler:
Canoness - 65
-1BS -10
-1I -10
+1A +10
+Unlock +10
-LoS -5
+Eviscerator +30
+Rampage +10
+Zealot +15
Total: 115

She makes Repentia Troops, and can boost them nicely.
Valeriya the Damned.
Spoiler:
Army: Adepta Sororitas (Sisters of Battle)
BG: Valeriya the Damned - The unforgiven one.
She who gave the command that damned an entire Order of the Faithful.
Interred in a specially modified Penitent Engine designed to be her tomb, extending her suffering rather than ending it quickly, she lives in internal torment - the only small respite felt each time she rends the enemies of the Imperium.
Valeriya's four armed Penitent Engine bears an Iron Maiden style tomb encasing the front, protecting her from a merciful death.

FO: HQ
Squad: Valeriya the Damned
Unit: Valeriya the Damned, Points Per: 200, Models: 1*, Vehicle Type: Walker (Character),
WS-5, BS-3, S-5(10), FA-12, SA-11, RA-10, HP-4 , I-3, A-3(6).
Valeriya the Damned may not be used to fulfil the the Mandatory HQ slot on a Force Organisation Chart and cannot be selected as the Warlord of an army.
Valeriya the Damned may take a retinue of up to two Penitent Defenders.
You may take up to two squads of Penitent Engines as Troops.

Wargear:
Four Dreadnought CCW
( FDCCW: Four Heavy Flamers)

Special Rules:
( C: Precision Shots )
( C: Precision Strikes )
( C: Look Out, Sir (4+) )
Rage
Battle Frenzy
Unstoppable
Shield of Faith
It Will Not Die
Eternal Suffering

Battle Frenzy:
For every unsaved Wound Valeriya the Damned inflicts in Close Combat, she immediately makes an additional attack.
These extra attacks do not generate further additional attacks in the same way.

Eternal Suffering:
Valeriyas living tomb is armoured and reinforced to ensure that she doesn't expire.
If Valeriya suffers a Penetrating Hit, you can make your opponent re-roll the result on the Vehicle Damage table.
You must accept the second roll, even if it is worese than the first.
Costing
Spoiler:
Penitent Engine - Adjusted 105
+Unlocks +10
-MainHQ/Warlord -10
+Character +10
+1WS +10
+1BS +10
+1FA +10
+1HP +10
+2DCCW +50
+2Heavy Flamer +20
+Battle Frenzy +15
+IWND +10
+Eternal Suffering +5
Sub-total: 255
Penitent: Reduced by 20%
Total: 200

Ah Valeriya, I really, really like this character.
The first Penitent Engine I get will be converted into Valeriya

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ELITES:
Penitent Defenders:
Spoiler:
Army: Adepta Sororitas (Sisters of Battle)
BG: Penitent Defenders are meant to be sort of 'rear guard' engines.
Unique to the Damned Order Penitent, they have some longer ranged firepower to allow the army to have some defence against rear, or flanking attacks.
Charging forward with their fellow Penitents, but with long range sensors and programmed to target any distant threats with shoulder mounted Heavy Bolters.

FO: Elites
Squad: Penitent Defender
Unit: Penitent Defender, Points Per: 100, Models: 1-3, Vehicle Type: Walker, Open-Topped,
WS-4, BS-2, S-5(10), FA-11, SA-11, RA-10, HP-3 , I-3, A-D6+1.
Wargear:
Two Dreadnought CCW
( TDCCW: Two Heavy Flamers)
Two Heavy Bolters

Special Rules:
Rage
Battle Frenzy
Unstoppable Rampage
Shield of Faith
Costing
Spoiler:
Penitent Engine - Adjusted 105
+2 Heavy Bolter +20
Sub-total: 125
Penitent: Reduced by 20%
Total: 100
Not much to these ones. Elite slot Penitents with some Heavy Bolters strapped on, because it makes sense. (At least to me)

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TROOPS:
Repentia Superior
Spoiler:
Army: Adepta Sororitas (Sisters of Battle)
BG: Repentia Superior are longer served and more scarred than their sisters, maybe bearing some form of bionics, and more heraldry.
Likely they could have been redeemed and rejoined ranks, but they don't see themselves as such so continue on their path.
And for those within the Order Penitent, there's no chance for redemption anyway, just a few more days fighting the enemy.

FO: N/A
Squad: Repentia Superior
May replace any Mistress of Repentance
Unit: Repentia Superior, Points Per: 20, Models: 1, Unit Type: Infantry (Character),
WS-4, BS-4, S-3, T-3, W-2, I-3, A-3, Ld-9, Sv-6+*.
Wargear:
Eviscerator
Frag Grenades
Krak Grenades

Special Rules:
( C: Precision Shots )
( C: Precision Strikes )
( C: Look Out, Sir (4+) )
Acts of Faith
Fearless
Fleet
Rage
Shield of Faith
Soul of the Martyr
Zealot
( Z: Fearless )
( Z: Hatred )

Soul of the Martyr:
The Repentia Superior and her make one final push to repay their enemy in kind.
This Act of Faith is used in the Assault Phase.
If successful, do not remove any models in the unit if they are killed before they have attacked.
Instead place them on their side.
After all other models involved in the assault have made their attacks, any mortally injured model placed on its side gets to make its full attacks, with no bonuses for charging.
After these attacks have been made, any models on their side are removed as casualties.
Costing
Spoiler:
Mistress of Repentance - 29
+1W +10
+1A +10
-Power Armour -15
-2 Power Weapons -30
+Eviscerator +30
+Zealot +15
Sub-total: 49
Reduced by Cost of base
Total: +20

Because that Mistress in Power Armour really ruins the look of the squad you know?

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FAST ATTACK:
Penitent Avengers
Spoiler:
Army: Adepta Sororitas (Sisters of Battle)
BG: Penitent Avengers are one of several engines of damnation unique to the order.
They bear some of the more disturbed or heretical members of the Order.
Even more tortured and worked up than the usual victim, the Penitent Avengers charge the enemy first, heralding the Damned Orders arrival in battle.

FO: Fast Attack
Squad: Penitent Avenger
Unit: Penitent Avenger, Points Per: 100, Models: 1-3, Vehicle Type: Walker, Open-Topped, Jump,
WS-4, BS-2, S-5(10), FA-11, SA-11, RA-10, HP-3 , I-3, A-3(4).
Wargear:
Two Dreadnought CCW
( TDCCW: Four Boltguns)
( TDCCW: Two Flamers)
Jump Pack

Special Rules:
( J: Skyborne )
( J: Hammer of Wrath* )
( J: Deep Strike )
Rage
Unstoppable
Shield of Faith
Costing
Spoiler:
Penitent Engine - Adjusted 105
+Jump Pack +15
-2 Heavy Flamer -20
+2 Flamer +10
+4 Boltguns +10
Sub-total: 120
Penitent: Reduced by 20%
Total: 100
Penitent Engine with Jump Pack.
Replaces each HF with flamer, and 2 Bolters.

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HEAVY SUPPORT:
Penitent Defender Zeniths:
Spoiler:
Army: Adepta Sororitas
BG: Penitent Defender Zeniths are unique to the Order Penitent, specially programmed to target any aerial threats on the battlefield before moving on to other targets, the engines deploy targeting equipment and AA weapons, providing close air cover to the damned.
With two Shoulder Mounted Heavy Bolters and vertically firing back mounted Zenith Missiles.

FO: Heavy Support
Squad: Penitent Defender Zenith
Unit: Penitent Defender Zenith, Points Per: 120, Models: 1-3, Vehicle Type: Walker, Open-Topped,
WS-4, BS-2, S-5(10), FA-11, SA-11, RA-10, HP-3 , I-3, A-3(4).
Wargear:
Two Dreadnought CCW
( TDCCW: Two Heavy Bolters )
( TDCCW: Two Heavy Flamers )
4 Zenith Missiles

Special Rules:
Rage
Battle Frenzy
Unstoppable Rampage
Shield of Faith
Deploy

Deploy:
At the start of each turn the Penitent Engine Defender is not locked in combat, you must declare if the unit is going to Deploy or, Disengage.
While Deployed, the Penitent Engine Thunderer may not move, gains Skyfire, +1 to Shield of Faith rolls and counts all shots at Flyers, Skimmers or Winged Monstrous Creatures as Twin-Linked.
While Disengaged, the Penitent Engine Thunderer can move normally.
If assaulted the Penitent Engine Thunderer automatically disengages.
Thunderer Missiles may only be fired if the unit is Deployed.
If there is an enemy Flyer, Skimmer or Winged Monstrous Creature on the field at the start of the turn, the Penitent Engine Thunderer must deploy.

Zenith Missiles:
A Zenith Missile is a weapon with the following profile:
Zenith Missile: Range-48", Str-7, AP-2, Type-Heavy 1, Armourbane, One Shot.
Costing
Spoiler:
Penitent Engine - Adjusted 105
+2 Heavy Bolter +20
+4 Zenith Missles +40
+Deploy (Can't move -10, +1 Invun +10, +Skyfire +15, TL-Specific +5, Must Deploy with -10) +10
Sub-total: 175
Penitent: Reduced by 20%
Total: 140

This one is a Defender, but boasts 4 Skyspear Missiles without Savant Lock to provide some relatively reliable (effectively BS3), AA (Average pen result of 14, with +1 to damage).
in return, it can't move when firing at these, as Penitents aren't smart enough at this point, so software says STAND HERE AND SHOOT THAT.


Having play tested these a little, I'm happy with the performance of the Avengers vs their cost.
Defenders should be fine also.

Valeriya died too quickly to really tell (though she is capable of putting out a load of hurt, she didn't last very long).
The Zeniths didn't really do much other than function as overpriced Defenders, due to there being no Flyers/Skimmers/FMCs.

I'm relatively happy with Katterin at her price range as well.
Feels worth it for what it is.

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Grim and dark. Three thoughts:

1) I'm all for some kind of Repentia character to replace the jarring Mistress of Fetishes, I mean Whips, I mean oh forget it.

2) Holy feth that's a lot of Penitent Engines. Take both special characters and you could have 36 Pengines.
Spoiler:
HQ: 3 Penitents (Valeria & bodyguards)
Troops: 6 Penitents (one per Repentia squad)
Elites: 9 (3 squadrons of 3 Defenders)
Fast Attack: 9 Penitents (3 squadrons of 3 Avengers)
Heavy Support: 9 Penitents (3 squadrons of 3 Avengers or basic Pengines)


3) Defenders seem like more a Heavy Support choice than an Elite. Wouldn't a Elite Pengine be ever more assaulty than the ordinary kind, not more shooty?

4) All those Repentia could use some sort of assault vehicle..... if only to explain why the entire Order wasn't wiped out in the first battle.

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A sequel: Army of Minerva - A Sister Ginevra Story
And you should read Lynta on why there is no canon in 40K

 Psienesis wrote:
Well, if you check out Sister Sydney's homebrew/expansion rules, you'll find all kinds of units the Sisters could have, that fit with the theme of the Sisters (as a tabletop army) perfectly well, and are damn-near-perfectly balanced.

 
   
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1: Damn Straight! : D
Only one set of (sleeveless) power armour in the whole army if needs be!

2: More actually.
Valeriya +2 Defender
Katterin + 9 Repentia
3x3 Defender
2x3 Penitent
4x 10xRepentia + Penitent
3x3 Avenger
3x3 Zenith/Penitent
For 50 Repentia and 40 Penitent Engines.
Only like... 4000pts too.

3: Sorta but at the same time... I dunno.
I mean, Penitents really felt more like Elites tbh, and would be far better served in that slot... but I suppose with the changing around, and making them troops, could make another type of Elite penitent and have Defenders as heavies.

4: Yes. Yes they could!
Though fluffwise (is that here, or was it lost to the Loading...!?) they're constantly replenished with penitents from all around, as they've sort of become a penal legion / dumping ground for the ecclesiarchy, so that only a few squads worth of repentia that they think are redeemable are left with actual orders...
They could do with an assault vehicle, that simply hasn't been made yet!

But balance wise is all good?
No screw ups in the unit builds?

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We need to do more playtesting. >> Maybe against something that isn't Flayed One spam.



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Sister Katterin Magdelene +9 Repentia 301
Valeriya the Damned +2 Penitent Defender 400
3x3 Defenders 900
2x3 Penitent Engine 480
4x10 Repentia w/ Superior + Penitent Engine = 1020
3x3 Penitent Avengers 900
3x3 Penitent Defender Zeniths 1260
Total: 5261

   
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Wow. So at any non-Apocalyptic points level, the answer to "how many Penitent Engines can I fit in the FOC" is is "however many Penitent Engines you can afford, baby." And with that maxed-out force, what percentage of your points are invested in AV11/11/10 Walkers? If I'm Chaos or Orks that's gonna hurt, but against Guard, Tau, and probably Eldar your only hope is they're laughing too hard to shoot straight.

BURN IT DOWN BURN IT DOWN BABY BURN IT DOWN

Novice Ginevra stories: Bolter B-Word Privileges (Sisters of Battle), Ollanius Pius Requiem (Sisters & Guard), Able Baker (Inquisition), The Beginning & Dancing with the Astartes (Marines)
A sequel: Army of Minerva - A Sister Ginevra Story
And you should read Lynta on why there is no canon in 40K

 Psienesis wrote:
Well, if you check out Sister Sydney's homebrew/expansion rules, you'll find all kinds of units the Sisters could have, that fit with the theme of the Sisters (as a tabletop army) perfectly well, and are damn-near-perfectly balanced.

 
   
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4060 is AV11/11/10.
4260 is Penitent Engines.
So 80%.

'Course, I'm trying to make a list with Katterin AND Valeriya.

But maybe I should take a cheaper 'primary' HQ, and just fill up on Penitent Engines otherwise?.

   
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Kinda want a non-penitent engine now...

Hmm.

Sororitas Castigation Engine {Heavy Support}...................90 points

WS 4 BS 4 S6(10) FA 11 SA 11 RA 10 I3 A2 HP3

Type: Walker
Wargear: Two Dreadnought CCW with built-in Heavy Flamers
Special Rules: Shield of Faith, Acts of Faith, Unleash Fury, Rampage, Fleet
Options:
May take up to 2 additional Castigation Engines for 100 points each.
May exchange Heavy Flamers for Heavy Bolters for free
May be equipped with up to two additional two Heavy Bolters on shoulder mounts for +10 points each.
May take Sororitas Vehicle Wargear items.
One Castigation Engine may be fitted with a carapace-mounted shrine for 10 points (counts as a Simulacrum Imperialis)

Unleash Fury: This Act of Faith is used in the Assault phase. The unit gains +2 Initiative until the end of the phase. If the unit has not been joined by a character, treat it as having Leadership 10.

Basically, a Penitent Engine with a fully power-armoured and non-repentant Celestian piloting it.



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Interesting. Somehow though I think it's more like a crazed priest or Frateris you'd find riding something like that into battle, more than a (relatively) rational Celestian.

BURN IT DOWN BURN IT DOWN BABY BURN IT DOWN

Novice Ginevra stories: Bolter B-Word Privileges (Sisters of Battle), Ollanius Pius Requiem (Sisters & Guard), Able Baker (Inquisition), The Beginning & Dancing with the Astartes (Marines)
A sequel: Army of Minerva - A Sister Ginevra Story
And you should read Lynta on why there is no canon in 40K

 Psienesis wrote:
Well, if you check out Sister Sydney's homebrew/expansion rules, you'll find all kinds of units the Sisters could have, that fit with the theme of the Sisters (as a tabletop army) perfectly well, and are damn-near-perfectly balanced.

 
   
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Ah, but the Castigation Engine isn't so crazed. Rampage is because of the way it can make huge sweeping blows rather than because it's moving fast and striking crazily.



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Quoting Furyou's post from the 'Fixing Penitent Engines thread:

 Furyou Miko wrote:
I hate Ovion's fluff with a passion and can only justify it by saying that Valeriya is the one who said that her order was fallen from grace, and that it was because they failed to protect something important rather than because of anything they actually did....


I hardly hate -- I actually quite like -- but I'd agree that "Order that failed" has more appeal than "Order that fell." If the Order's loyalty were in doubt, the Ecclesiarchy and the rest of the Orders Militant wouldn't trust them to still be on the battlefield, they'd annihilate them, or at least break them up into individual Repentia squads scattered and under close by different Orders, rather than keep them as a single force. If the Order was still loyal but had screwed up in some massive and unforgivable way, I could totally see them being condemned to perpetual penance.

Mission failure and moral failure are both capital offenses in the Imperium, but it's moral failure that seems to be taken most seriously. Isn't there a line in fluff somewhere that even the traitor can be given a chance at redemption, but the heretic cannot, because his heresy is both automatically treasonous and a still worse crime wrapped up in one?

BURN IT DOWN BURN IT DOWN BABY BURN IT DOWN

Novice Ginevra stories: Bolter B-Word Privileges (Sisters of Battle), Ollanius Pius Requiem (Sisters & Guard), Able Baker (Inquisition), The Beginning & Dancing with the Astartes (Marines)
A sequel: Army of Minerva - A Sister Ginevra Story
And you should read Lynta on why there is no canon in 40K

 Psienesis wrote:
Well, if you check out Sister Sydney's homebrew/expansion rules, you'll find all kinds of units the Sisters could have, that fit with the theme of the Sisters (as a tabletop army) perfectly well, and are damn-near-perfectly balanced.

 
   
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With due credit to Ovion for both inspiration and his homebrewing guide, I've made some Repentia characters of my own, the Veteran and the Champion. It's not a whole Penitent Order, but if you have an army entirely composed of Repentia and Frateris Militia, the Repentia Champion can actually be your Warlord....

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BURN IT DOWN BURN IT DOWN BABY BURN IT DOWN

Novice Ginevra stories: Bolter B-Word Privileges (Sisters of Battle), Ollanius Pius Requiem (Sisters & Guard), Able Baker (Inquisition), The Beginning & Dancing with the Astartes (Marines)
A sequel: Army of Minerva - A Sister Ginevra Story
And you should read Lynta on why there is no canon in 40K

 Psienesis wrote:
Well, if you check out Sister Sydney's homebrew/expansion rules, you'll find all kinds of units the Sisters could have, that fit with the theme of the Sisters (as a tabletop army) perfectly well, and are damn-near-perfectly balanced.

 
   
 
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