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Made in us
[MOD]
Dankhold Troggoth






Shadeglass Maze

Edit: See posts below, it turns out this person has the exact same address as a notorious scammer from last year, as discussed in this transaction report

I am creating a Transaction Report about this user because of the large number of trades he has been seeking, along with the following behavior:

1. Asking people to order directly from the GW website and have it shipped to him.
2. When pressed to accept Paypal, telling people they must wait until 21 days has passed and he can withdraw the payment before shipping.
3. Most distressingly, providing the same tracking number to two different users who he has ongoing / unfulfilled trades with... a number which appears to have been already delivered in-country and is not an international shipment.

Please, do not trade with this user! If all of these factors are somehow an elaborate misunderstanding, then that will play itself out. However, the number of complaints we have had about this user in such a short amount of time (the last week and especially last few days) for suspicious trade terms has been quite shocking.

Anyone who has a current transaction with LustrianLizard, or who communicated with him regarding trades, please feel free to post here on topic (that is, the discussion of trades specifically relating to this user).

This message was edited 4 times. Last update was at 2013/07/27 04:09:54


 
   
Made in us
Regular Dakkanaut




Yeah hes been trying to get me to send money thru paypal for a large army he wanted to sell told him didnt feel comfortable wih that and he refused the deal
   
Made in us
Ferocious Blood Claw




Marlborough Massachusetts

well that's unfortunate, looks like I will need to find a new trade for noise marines. money wasted is a lesson learned that's for sure...
   
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Ghastly Grave Guard



Uk

I tried to buy a phantom Titan from LustrianLizard and via the PMs he was very helpful and understanding, however he insisted that I do the transaction through the GW site. This meant that I would buy products up to a total of $185 for him and then would have to hope he sent it in the mail which to me just seems very risky. When I asked whether we could just do Paypal because I wasn't sure about the deal he became very defensive and said he would just sell it to others if I didn't want it. He also refused the Paypal offer. Another user had bought it from him in this method and has expressed concerns to me about the transaction. The most worrying thing is though he hadnt even told me he wasn't going to sell it to me anymore.

I went to work and when I got back he had sold the item to the other user without telling me. He now won't respond to any of my PM's but I don't know. There may of course be an explanation.
   
Made in us
Been Around the Block



Albany, Ga

Offered me a new sm battleforce, a land raider, and marneus calgar for 2 games day minis. Told him he'd have to provide pictures and ship first, and that was pretty much the end of that.
   
Made in ca
Dakka Veteran




Canada

Make that 3.

63400747465091

(60) Successful Trades With: coffinofstone (x2), Mike94656, kungfujew, LOS Not Needed, Uriels_Flame (x3), redthirst, Lehnsherr, VostroyanFirstClass (x4), midget_overlord, Timofeo, Makutsu, Eclipseone (x2), Krug001, JHall, Neomagicwarrior, Vygoth, Eldarain (x5), Green is Best!, Acardia, Exalbaru, ephrael, MadCowCrazy, pretre, kusanagi68, Theevilone, bd1085, wreeper007, Soccerlfb6, bagelboy71, Masakik, xghostmakerx, Mecha_buddha, Grimwulfe, saleen302 (2), thormar, manvas, iStompya, Farboozle, GearheadXII (x2), Spartan289, marcus.iscariat, Sannaga, Spikes, Gamerely, Catfiish, Physh, skavenmatt

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Ghastly Grave Guard



Uk

I have his address PM me if you want it...
   
Made in us
Ancient Space Wolves Venerable Dreadnought




Lots of fishy things with the order. Actually, a ton. Nothing concrete, just lots of fishy things.
As others mentioned, payment was supposed to be by ordering him things through the GW website. Originally we attempted a transaction through paypal, but he said there was a delay on the money and they said they were going to put a hold on his receiving it so he cancelled the purchase and offered the GW purchasing option.
He says he doesn't have a camera and can therefore not send pictures.
He sent the wrong tracking number for my order, which he says he shipped.

These could all just be coincidence and/or error, but I also haven't been able to get a hold of him all day (When we were making the deal he always responded almost instantly during daytime hours,) and it's looking fairly suspect.
   
Made in us
[MOD]
Dankhold Troggoth






Shadeglass Maze

twinner wrote:
Make that 3.

63400747465091

This is the tracking number that was also given to Waaaghpower and Herpetitus. If you enter it in on this site, it shows as delivered in New South Wales:

63400747465091
http://m.auspost.com.au/track.html

Again, shocking in that he had to know this would quickly come to an end, giving people the same tracking number that has already been delivered in-country...
   
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Confessor Of Sins




WA, USA

Judging by the volume of activity, I'd say it is looking probable that he was trying to blitz some scams by people.

 Ouze wrote:

Afterward, Curran killed a guy in the parking lot with a trident.
 
   
Made in ca
Dakka Veteran




Canada

Frickn balls, I knew it was too good to be true. Thank goodness I have done allot of trading online with variant different games to be able to sniff out a scammer. I hope no-one got jacked by him.

(60) Successful Trades With: coffinofstone (x2), Mike94656, kungfujew, LOS Not Needed, Uriels_Flame (x3), redthirst, Lehnsherr, VostroyanFirstClass (x4), midget_overlord, Timofeo, Makutsu, Eclipseone (x2), Krug001, JHall, Neomagicwarrior, Vygoth, Eldarain (x5), Green is Best!, Acardia, Exalbaru, ephrael, MadCowCrazy, pretre, kusanagi68, Theevilone, bd1085, wreeper007, Soccerlfb6, bagelboy71, Masakik, xghostmakerx, Mecha_buddha, Grimwulfe, saleen302 (2), thormar, manvas, iStompya, Farboozle, GearheadXII (x2), Spartan289, marcus.iscariat, Sannaga, Spikes, Gamerely, Catfiish, Physh, skavenmatt

YouTube channel for new batreps and other content: https://www.youtube.com/c/TheBasementCollective
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Made in au
[MOD]
Not as Good as a Minion






Brisbane

 RiTides wrote:
twinner wrote:
Make that 3.

63400747465091

This is the tracking number that was also given to Waaaghpower and Herpetitus. If you enter it in on this site, it shows as delivered in New South Wales:

63400747465091
http://m.auspost.com.au/track.html

Again, shocking in that he had to know this would quickly come to an end, giving people the same tracking number that has already been delivered in-country...


NSW? Wasn't there a blitz scammer from New South Wales about a year or two ago who asked for the same sort of stuff (GW buying, etc)? Could be the same guy?

I wish I had time for all the game systems I own, let alone want to own... 
   
Made in gb
Ghastly Grave Guard



Uk

I think I know someone who got scammed for the phantom. Luckily thanks to the very helpful advice from Curran12 and the MOD team I haven't been scammed and didn't go throug with the deal.
   
Made in au
Fresh-Faced New User




Bah,

I wasn't going to say anything just yet in case but reading all of that is almost certain.

I spoke to him on the phone once during our initial contact because I thought the deal he gave me was too good to be true. He's phone has been off ever since. He refused any other form of payment including direct bank deposits, paypal and even C.O.D via the local post office. He would only accept GW products delivered.

When I said I can pick up he stopped responding to me, every other pm was almost instant replies. He also told me he responded to me via his phone through dakkadakka yesterday, when did phones have internet access but no camera?

He couldn't even describe the miniatures to me properly over the phone when I asked him about it.

I highly doubt any of this is a misunderstanding. This is almost certain a dirty scam.
   
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Ghastly Grave Guard



Uk

I now feel sad. For a moment I thought I actually might get a phantom Titan for a non ridiculous price alas it was not to be...
   
Made in ca
Navigator





AHA! I knew it!!! When he said he would trade a brand new Tau Manta, 2 kronor hunting packs, 3 counter strike Cadres AND 3 riptides for a Dakr elf army. I knew something fishy was going on!

5000pts+
5000pts+
7000pts+ (pre-heresy)
1000pts

15+ Successful trades 
   
Made in us
Fresh-Faced New User




Interesting, I was offered a few titans... I mean not against multiple irons in the fire at all, but I though it was a little unbalanced in trade. I hope this all gets work out for him very soon I know I have made plenty of mistakes!
   
Made in us
[MOD]
Dankhold Troggoth






Shadeglass Maze

The communication / testimonials are helpful, just a reminder that comments should be directly related to trades / trade discussions with this user from people who directly experienced such. Piling on posts will have to be deleted.

Has anyone actually sent models/money to this person other than Waaaghpower? Or are all the rest aborted trades where nothing had yet been sent?
   
Made in gb
Ghastly Grave Guard



Uk

 RiTides wrote:
The communication / testimonials are helpful, just a reminder that comments should be directly related to trades / trade discussions with this user from people who directly experienced such. Piling on posts will have to be deleted.

Has anyone actually sent models/money to this person other than Waaaghpower? Or are all the rest aborted trades where nothing had yet been sent?

I would try PM'ing Makaleth. He has done some sort of deal for the phantom.
   
Made in us
[MOD]
Dankhold Troggoth






Shadeglass Maze

Done, thanks.

Since Makaleth is in-country, hopefully there will be some easier recourse for him to recover models/funds if necessary. Stevenitis has LustrianLizard's information, and I do as well now, if needed.

With a possibly younger user like this, a simple phone call to the parents may get things straightened out... and failing that, a phone call to the police to have a talk with him about the consequences of his actions.
   
Made in au
Fresh-Faced New User




Yeh according to another member that i just spoke to, the address I got doesn't match the one he got, so I don't know anymore.
   
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Enginseer with a Wrench





Riverside

Almost sent all my Tau stuff that is new on spru for a large elder army he offered. I told him shipping was more then what I wanted to pay so he said he would throw in the titan if i ship.

Imperial Fist-6k
Dark elves-4k
Dark eldar 2.5k
Warriors of chaos-4k
Dakka swap shop trades.....12 
   
Made in us
[MOD]
Dankhold Troggoth






Shadeglass Maze

Stevenitis just shared with me that alternate address and it is in Dora Creek, New South Wales (NSW), Australia (PM him, BaconUprising, or myself if you need the full address) and it is an exact match for the address used by the scammer and sockpuppeter Jamesc2012 / tfgguy / zigzagboom, as discussed in this Transaction Report from last year:

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/450649.page

No one could do much that time, since all were outside of Australia. However, hopefully Makaleth, who is in Australia, can take appropriate action this time with the police, and put a stop to these recurring scam attempts....

This message was edited 4 times. Last update was at 2013/07/27 03:34:36


 
   
Made in us
Ork-Hunting Inquisitorial Xenokiller






He offered to send a warhound. I waited after realising he had the same address as Jamesc2012, who a few months ago ripped off users on here. Already he has a history of scamming, so this is an extreme trade-at-your-own-risk.
   
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Bounding Assault Marine





Henderson, NV

He offered me the 10 tank leman russ apoc formation for the small amount of BA I have posted, he was supposed to provide me a tracking number last night and I have not received it. I told him I would not ship my end until he had provide positive proof that he had shipped.He told me he had no camera to show proof of the tanks, guess I will not be trading with him now seemed way to good to be true.

U.S. Army veteran OEF 13-14

 
   
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Fresh-Faced New User




I believe markiimark91 is an account he created to give himself a positive feedback here http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/2250/458288.page

   
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Bounding Assault Marine





Henderson, NV

I was also given the Dora Creek address

U.S. Army veteran OEF 13-14

 
   
Made in us
[MOD]
Dankhold Troggoth






Shadeglass Maze

Thanks stevenitis, we'll take care of that one, too...

Edit: See this post and onwards in the prior transaction report to get an idea of the amount he took before. Hopefully, the police will be more interested this time as it is his second offense and they should be able to reference when they were contacted about this last year:

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/90/450649.page#4338702

This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2013/07/27 04:21:26


 
   
Made in us
Prospector with Steamdrill





Missouri

He wanted to trade me 2 AoBR sets,3 unopened Ork Battleforces and an unbuilt Stompa for just about 1000 pts of Daemons. He told me his camera was broken, then posted pictures on the site trying to do a painting service. I feel horrible now because I wanted to speak up about him and his fishy-ness before but didnt get around to it. Luckily I told him he was a liar and he ran off crying.
   
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Enginseer with a Wrench





Riverside

This is what he offerd me, hope posting this helps incase he creates another name and trys to offer off these eldar.
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Imperial Fist-6k
Dark elves-4k
Dark eldar 2.5k
Warriors of chaos-4k
Dakka swap shop trades.....12 
   
 
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