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Hello everyone!, after a few weeks of hard work from our sculptor we have now the finialzed version on the master miniature!. We will be doing several poses and a few hand sculpted clip packs will also be added to the master prints before they are sent off to be casted!. To those wondering of the scale height, all our miniatures will be based off of true scale 28mm from feet to eyes for standerd human miniatures. This first pack of miniatures will each stand at 38mm from feet to the tip of their ears!.

However i think its about time i give you all another update on our first miniatures. As they say, pictures are worth a thousand words, i will let the images speak for themselves, we are very excited and proud of our first miniature range and we hope you will like them just as much!

SIncerly - Shawn.



one T pose, which has one of the weapons that the first pack of miniatures will be armed with -



and a final older version , colored to give you all some idea of the detail on the miniatures.

Ok, this is pretty!

I'm going to keep my eye on this.

very, interesting... I'm intrigued to see where this goes

Wolfen in space! Going to have to keep a close watch on this.

Thanks everyone for your comments !, i am very much looking forward to getting this guys into production as soon as possible, They will be sold in a pack of 10 miniatures each one a different pose. When they are finished and sent to my caster then we can decide if they will be in more seperate parts or more a solid miniature, i would like to do my miniatures in metal after much feed back from the community as a whole. So more likely than not they will be mostly solid miniatures with maybe a seperate arm here and their .

I truly want to bring an orginial, different and exciting range of miniatures to the wargaming market, if all goes well i can assure you i can easly expand this range and start up my 2nd faction the Gnolls whom i have posted some quick concept art of on here a few months ago, but i will add some images of them below ( they were quick concept sketches done by a friend of mine, and are not yet the final product, i defaintly want the ears and face to me much more hyena like than what they are in the concept art ).










I hope to hear back from my 3D printer sometime on monday so i can begin getting the first pose printed and shipped to me and work on them whyll i wait for my sculptor to be ready for the other 3 poses. I also will update you guys as soon as i get my facebook page and website up and running, hopefully soon!. T

hanks again everyone and look forward to more thoughts from the community!

Sincerly - Shawn.

Aw man! You had me at Armored Space Marine Werewolf, but then you lost me when you said metal. Now, if you were to offer a limited run resin cast sold as individual figures rather than sets, I might be back on board. Otherwise, I love the idea.

Make sure to let us know when these go on sale.

Metal Schmetal, these werewolves actually look like werewolves.

Barzam- Well it all depends on what my caster things will be best for casting my minaitures, metal molds allow me to cast several thousands of miniatures in one day, a resin mold at best will allow me to cast around 3 times aday and is much more labor intensive and hence more cost, however shipping and material costs bring it down considerably. In the end resin if i plan on only selling a few hundred and metal if i am selling over a few hundred.

I had posted on here and several forums about what the community wants, i got alot of division on the material of choice, many have told me to do metal to start out with as i wont have any negative feelings from the community ( with their experince from a certain companies cheap version of resin miniatures, which i agree is fairly non - open minded and unfair to other companies that do produce proper good quality resin) to start my range out in. However i see just as many people such as yourself who are 100% fine with resin and more so choose it over metal.

It will really come down to what my caster feels will be best for my miniatures, However i will set up a final poll on my website when it is up and running to hear from those who want to purchase my miniatures what material they want them casted in, i will inspect my chosen casters resin quality myself as well. Even if metal is decided over resin, i could do a limited run or special orders for resin casts, as the molds only last for about 20 - 30 casts i could easly set up a special option for either material if you would be interested in that as well?

I am also interested in why you would be interested in individual packages over a pack of the miniatures? just curious to why .

BobtheInquisitor - I will defaintly do that good sir!, what are your feelings on casting metal or resin? I agree, their are far too many werewolf miniatures out there that are fairly poor concepts of werewolves , i aimed to make these miniatures some of the best werewolf minis out their!, also you may be interested if all goes well, i have a naked version of these miniatures that i can also print and get casted, and they look just as detailed as the current concept art above .

Thanks again everyone for all the feed back and thoughts, i hope to hear even more for the community and promise to give you all an update as soon as i hear back from my 3D printer!.

with best regards - Shawn.

Yeah, that's all kinds of hot! There's a lot of fantasy werewolves out there, not NEARLY enough sci-fi ones (and certainly not enough GOOD sci-fi ones!)

Assuming they release in metal, what timeframe are you looking at to start shipping these puppies out?

Aww, man! They're looking great, but they're just way too big for my purposes. If they were closer to 28mm tall, they'd be fantastic for vargr from the Traveller RPG. As it is, these are cool, but not for me.

Very, very nice! I'll be keeping my eye on this line. Metal or resin, doesn't really matter to me...

Valete,

JohnS

Whoa, that's awesome!

Even moreso when you mention 10 different poses! The new helmeted versions are ace (especially the helmet on the left model). Just need some posing

The design is nifty, but that armour isn't functional. He wouldn't be able to raise his arms due to the shoulder pads butting up against the breastplate, and the ankles can't bend forwards because the foot plate butts up against the shin.

I do like the helmets, though

Kalamadea - Thanks for the complement! i am very glad you like them !. Well release in metal or resin wont effect much of the release time. I am hoping to have things up and running in about 5 - 8 weeks depending on how things go, however it may be even sooner than that, it all depends on a few factors, one of the major ones will be shipping, but i plan to use top class shiping to cut down that current estimate time !. Will keep everyone up to date as i get near that point!.

mrgrigson - Fair enough, you would be surprised how many have comment that exactly to me, shame the vargr are so short , but thank you still for your comment and thoughts i am glad you like them!.

Cygnnus - I am very glad you like them and as i have heard from a few exprinced people, that as long as the sculpts are good people will buy them no matter if its resin or metal !, glad you like them and will keep everyone updated as i get nearer to opening up shop !.

RiTides- I am glad your excited about the posing, i aim for a pack of 10 miniatures each their own pose, some will be more basic but i do aim to get as many as possible in more realstic combat style dynamic poss, not the silly ones you see with some miniatures but more gritty and down too earth style posing !. I will defaintly keep you all updated as i get the poses done!.

insaniak - For the legs, the knees would be fine for funcition however i see your point with the lower hind leg joint, in this i had spaced it out some as to allow abit more mobility, in their fluff this armor leg joint also adapts to the individuals movement, so if he were to go onto all fours or lay down the armor would shrink up their to give him more mobility and when he was standing up more it would expand to increase protection in that area. However for the shoulders, i have looked at them more and agree he would have issues moving his arms due too over hanging armor, mainly the top shoulder armor, i will see about getting this cut back abit that will allow him to move his arms properly. Thanks for spotting that !. glad you like the helments though !

When i saw the renders, I asked myself "Do I really want a miniature of a sci-fi werewolf?"

And the answer was yes!

The other thing I want to say is that I really like how deep the 3d designer is making the detail. I see a lot of renders for miniatures where the detail is quite shallow. Like the designer is looking at it up close on a big monitor all the time and forgets that they're going to be made much, much smaller and you need to exaggerate the depth to make them both cleaner looking and easier to paint. This is one of the first times where it looks like the designer got it right.

Nice but those shoulderpads, mass effect, warzone inspired?

underfire wargaming wrote:

BobtheInquisitor - I will defaintly do that good sir!, what are your feelings on casting metal or resin? I agree, their are far too many werewolf miniatures out there that are fairly poor concepts of werewolves , i aimed to make these miniatures some of the best werewolf minis out their!, also you may be interested if all goes well, i have a naked version of these miniatures that i can also print and get casted, and they look just as detailed as the current concept art above .

While I usually hate working with metal, it has a lot of advantages for certain miniatures. I would prefer metal for these if the models are only one or two pieces and resin if they are more complex. If you do go with resin, please make sure the ankles are sturdy and the QC is on task.

Naked as in 'unarmored' is great. Naked as in 'fried-egg nipples and a landing strip' are not so good. It might be worth the wait for you to finish these guys up and get them out for feedback before putting money into printing out and casting a second range.

I'm not sold on their tails being uncovered, but that's a gripe I've had with every animal inspired humanoid ever, so take that with a grain of salt.

i hope the gnolls don't have to have tattered clothes. Give those poor hyenas some dignity! They can have that techno tribal look going on without looking like space hobos.

Canine humanoids are my second place soft spot when it comes to purchases, right behind the reptiles. If the final sculpts are crisp I'll be down for a few.

I don't know what Barzam's talking about either, getting just a few individual figures. I know for a fact if these look good he'll be fielding an entire army of space dogs, wolves, and hyenas against me if given the opportunity (and the figures are affordable!).

Do it so I don't have to fight those damn, dirty elves or the space zealots!

frozenwastes - I agree, i am very happy to have gotten the current sculptor i have ( his name is in the bottom right coners, he is also the same sculptor who sculpted the Raging Heros kickstarter minis ). I am very glad you like them and will be selling these guys at a very affordable price !.

Jehan-reznor - The shoulder pads are abit inspired by yes the lastest sci fi art concepts, however much of the shoulder pads and armor is also inspired by modren military armor and my own personal taste when it comes to shoulder pads ( i think the color photo and its similarity to mass effects N7 was something i should have realized XD).


BobtheInquisitor - That is exactly what path i will set out for the casting, if my caster feels they should be casted in seperate parts then resin is the way to go, but if its only an arm or two casted seperate, then i feel that metal would be a better option, well wait and see what the caster feels will be best !.

I will wait till i have set up shop and began selling this first miniature package before i even consider expanding their range, if i get great sales then i will go from their, and i can understand what you mean by no "nude" minis !.

highlord tamburlaine - The orginial concept had the tails armored, up if i decide to hold printing and get the shoulder armor cut back ( instead of just making it based as a more rubber like armor than a solid part of armor to allow full arm motion) i could see about armoring there tails up !.

Fair enough, what would you like to see instead of tattered clothes for the Gnolls? and they do deserve some deginity i agree !. I wil ensure the final sculpts are very crisp and full of detail, and also i aim to sell the packs of 10 , i cannot garantee until i have all the casting costs finialized, but i think it should be within the 18 - 20 $ canadian range of price !.

I'm a wee bit late to the party I think but; what are these rather nice miniatures for? Is there a game involved?

underfire wargaming wrote:
I am also interested in why you would be interested in individual packages over a pack of the miniatures? just curious to why .

This is actually a topic I'd discussed with my brother yesterday. My preference is actually more towards either small scale skirmish games with only a handful of units, or purely for the sake of modeling the figures themselves. In either situation, I tend not to have a need for a whole bunch of figures. One or two are generally enough. Now, that being said, if that price you quoted in an earlier post is for a full set, I think I might be able to get past my aversion to metal figures and field a large unit.

And about those Gnolls, how about giving them some tattered wrappings instead of ripped up pants? I'm thinking something along the lines of the arm and leg wraps Muay Thai fighters use. Having a few loose wraps hanging off of them could be a good way to make them look more dynamic.

So I thought about what kind of clothing would be interesting on gnolls...

The first thing they reminded me of were Afghan rebels circa the 19th century, fighting the British. I have no idea why. They may not have the latest tech, they may be piss poor, but they fight like the dickens!

Regardless of my own strange nitpickings I am very much interested in seeing your finished product.

You may finally end the absence of any scifi figures in my home!

Slipstream - I am glad you like our miniatures, yes their is a game in works, but it is in the background and not the main focus at the moment, the line will be all based on the same setting and each will be for a certain faction. The game is more for something myself to play , but it will be being worked on as the line grows. I am working with another small company that has published a few games already and though the game i have in mind will be fairly different in feel and style from their orginial games, they still have much experince and i hope this will allow the game to be quite attractive, and i hope to make it a free download game ( with hard cover orders also an option for those who want a physical bound book ). Hope that helps let me know if you have anymore questions i would be happy to reply !.

Barzam - As i have talked above, their is a form of game in the works in the background, i would aim for the game to be near a full platoon in scale and size, that being a fairly large game, it will be in the area inbetween a larger scale game and a skrimish game. For skrimish games i feel that the best ones i have played always involved some form of RPG mechanics and mainting your forces ect, which of course can become fairly complicated in the rules, and as i am pricing my line so it can be also used for lager scale wargaming, i have decided that the platoon level would be the best fit taking in things from both worlds in a new and interesting way !.

I have talked to my concept artist and we have taken into account of what you have suggested, we will see what he comes up with, for the cloth on the leggings we got abit inspired by german ww2 trench coats so they should look alot less tatterd now , whyll keeping with the more tribal tech feel .

highlord tamburlaine- I will have to look up the art from that time and see if we cannot use any inspiration from their , i am very glad to hear your interest in them, i hope to reach or even exceed your expectations!, i would be glad for our miniatures to be the first sci fi miniatures you bring into your home !.

thanks again everyone with all the feed back and thoughts !, i have reached a small hitch in the printing plans, a few little tweaks are needed, and with the consideration of the shoulder armor i may adjust that too since i have to wait for one more week for my sculptor to be back to work . In the mean time my concept artist is working on some new Gnoll art so i will upload those here as soon as he is done, sometime around thursday is when he should have some concept art done for me to show !

with best regards - Shawn.

If you do printed books, I'd highly recommend going print on demand or very small print runs. Yes, it reduces the margins on your books, but it also drastically reduces the risk. Hopefully the people you are partnering with have some experience with this, but if not, I'd recommend checking out Wargame Vault or Ka-Blam or Lulu.

Werewolves?! In space?! With a good looking armor?!



The only thing that I don't like on those miniatures is how tiny the tail looks like, but it's probably just me that's biased because my favorite werewolf is J. Talbain. Nothing (I hope) some GS won't fix. Everything else look freakin' fantastic! Please make sure to warn once they are available

The concept art look pretty good too!

(Btw, here's J. Talbain for those curious)

TheDraconicLord- Exellent meme post,i always love a good meme post !, Exalted good sir!. I am very glad to hear this concept is being so well received here on the dakka dakka forums!. As for the tail, i would have made it bigger, but two reasons i didnt is, these guys are in the half and half style of two races so they have half in half hybrid style feel to their bodies so that is one of the reasons why the tail is only half of what would be normal size. Also for casting reasons i am hoping to keep the tail as apart of the main body and reducing the amount of different peices . thanks for the great post!.

frozenwastes- No need to worry that is exactly the plan, print on demand only, which does remove the risk factor which i think is only wise, as its miniatures that sell miniatures and games not game systems as a few have told me here and other places . The one i am partnering with has done this methode several times so it should all work out well, but defaintly thank you for sharing those other 3 options i will be keeping them in mind ! thanks again for posting !.

with best regards - Shawn.