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 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
So nice to hear of a business dealing free of drama and pettiness!

It is very refreshing, isn't it?

Should be a lot more of it...

Has there been any news of the Dreamforge STuG?

As far as I know, there hasn't been any news at all. It's a shame really. 6 years ago I was so hopeful that this would be a break-out success. I wish we'd hear some news on all this.

The StuG looked to be a great model, too. With 8th coming it might be a motivator to finally put together some of my infantry. The decline of 40k really had me painting much more fantasy and historical stuff for the last few years.

Oh, and for anyone unaware, Dreamforge has a bloody good sale up right now on their webpage for Memorial Day until June 3rd.
https://dreamforge-games.com/

If it wasn't for international postage costs, I'd be all over it myself, but for those of you in the US, there's some amazing deals there for some sweet counts-as IG/Scion models and Knights. Not sure why it's not posted here yet.

Yeah the sale is nuts! Just got the email for that, too

Was just about to come post the same thing

It is a shame about the international postage, half the cost of what I'd want from them if I put my order in :(

Just messaged wayland to see when they would get a restock if I ordered through them.

I wish Marc could join forces with Warlordgames. It would solve his distribution problem and possibly make his iron core Germans into a human faction for Gates of Antares.

 Theophony wrote:
I wish Marc could join forces with Warlordgames. It would solve his distribution problem and possibly make his iron core Germans into a human faction for Gates of Antares.

No offense, but anything but that! Warlord is a young GW with with model quality from 20 years ago imho. There are enough European warehousing businesses that will handle EU ditribution for you for a price that's not your soul... If they really need a UK based distribution partner, talk to Rich from Wayland Games...

I'm grabbing two boxes of each of their 15mm infantry. Seems like a cheap way to have some spare Flames of War armies.

Cergorach wrote:

 Theophony wrote:
I wish Marc could join forces with Warlordgames. It would solve his distribution problem and possibly make his iron core Germans into a human faction for Gates of Antares.

No offense, but anything but that! Warlord is a young GW with with model quality from 20 years ago imho. There are enough European warehousing businesses that will handle EU ditribution for you for a price that's not your soul... If they really need a UK based distribution partner, talk to Rich from Wayland Games...

I think he had already gone through Wayland games, and like most of the distributors, they cleared him out.

As for warlord, they have been putting out some nice models (gates of Antares), and the bolt action system seems fun. They also have the distribution network, old GW was good up until their last CEO.

I'd love to see Marc get his own game out on his own, but that hasn't been happening.

Just happened to catch this out of the corner of my eye, went and picked up a few more boxes of American & German 28 mm infantry - I really prefer them over Warlord's offerings.

Also grabbed a box of the Eisenkern, tempted to make them counts-as Primaris, even though from comparisons they look like they're a bit smaller than even space marines.

I also happened to notice they have a 54 mm Assault Trooper that'd probably make a decent stand-in for Roboute, and the 15mm scale Leviathan would probably make a great (and better-looking IMHO) replacement for the new Primaris dreadnought.

Just wish the APC had been on sale - I picked one up on Black Friday last year and I'd like to get two more to stand in for Chimeras or Tauroxes.

Anyone have any idea what happened to the Panzerjagers? Went looking for a box or two, and they don't seem to be up on the website anymore. I love the Eisenkern models, and I want to keep expanding my Guard army with them.

Panzerjaegers? Do you mean the Black Widows?

R.

 precinctomega wrote:
Panzerjaegers? Do you mean the Black Widows?

R.

Sure, let's go with that. It says Panzerjägers on all the art I've seen, but they're certainly female models.

Another sale email - 4th of July this time. Go get.

Does anyone know if we are ever going to see anything new out of Mondragon?

 Azazelx wrote:
Another sale email - 4th of July this time. Go get.

Super excited to see this - $126 down to $50... and then $50 to ship it to Canada.

All of these sales usually means bad news for a company.....

General Hobbs wrote:


All of these sales usually means bad news for a company.....

Yeah, I'm holding on with bated breath. I love DreamForge and I have been a customer of theirs for 16 years now. The designs for the Leviathans are superb. Three years ago I wouldn't have been surprised to see a smaller Mech, the return of the Black Widow walking tank, and the APC by now. Now it looks like the Shadowkesh are just a pipe dream. Would anyone else drop $200 in a heartbeat if it meant another kickstarter was successful and more stuff came out?

I mean, at this point I'd settle for the 15mm Nova arm.

I just assumed Dream Forge was on a slow drifting path to closing up shop. I haven't seen a peep out of them in what, two or three years?

Which is just such a pity. The Eisenkern models are just topnotch.

Valete,

JohnS

I think the divorce with Wargames Factory really hurt. Now in addition to design and manufacturing Mark is doing orders and fulfilment. A lot for what's basically a one man shop.

The divorce with Precinct Omega sets back any hope of a game too...

Cryptek of Awesome wrote:

 Azazelx wrote:
Another sale email - 4th of July this time. Go get.

Super excited to see this - $126 down to $50... and then $50 to ship it to Canada.

Heh. That's why I've never personally bought anything from his sales. I feel your pain.


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 cuda1179 wrote:

General Hobbs wrote:


All of these sales usually means bad news for a company.....

Yeah, I'm holding on with bated breath. I love DreamForge and I have been a customer of theirs for 16 years now. The designs for the Leviathans are superb. Three years ago I wouldn't have been surprised to see a smaller Mech, the return of the Black Widow walking tank, and the APC by now. Now it looks like the Shadowkesh are just a pipe dream. Would anyone else drop $200 in a heartbeat if it meant another kickstarter was successful and more stuff came out?

Unfortunately, not I. It seems like way too much of a risk at this point.

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
I think the divorce with Wargames Factory really hurt. Now in addition to design and manufacturing Mark is doing orders and fulfilment. A lot for what's basically a one man shop.

The divorce with Precinct Omega sets back any hope of a game too...

So with the highlighted text, it seems what you're saying is...

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
Marriages cause nothing but problems.

A bold claim.

Joking aside, I do think you're correct that WGF's deal with Warlord wherein the former pulled up sticks and left really put Mark in a lurch. It's a shame because while they're fantastic models, between KickStarters and later purchases any further Eisenkern for me is definitely crossing into the "Stuff for the Stuff God" realm (Things for the Thing Throne!). I'd still probably throw money at the hover StuG, not sure about Shadokesh; I'd like another alien race in the market, but that's a lot more resources to carry off.

Guess I'll keep hoping.

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
I think the divorce with Wargames Factory really hurt. Now in addition to design and manufacturing Mark is doing orders and fulfilment. A lot for what's basically a one man shop.

The divorce with Precinct Omega sets back any hope of a game too...

And without having a dedicated game, the odd scale of the models can't help sales any. They're lovely models, but I've never bought more after the initial metal squad because I just don't have any use for them.

Likewise, I kept holding off buying a Leviathan due to them being just a bit too big for a Knight and a bit too small for a Titan.

I am currently using my Leviathan as a Knight Porphyrion. They are almost exactly the same size, and with the nova cannon arms they look like they have the same weapons too.

The Shadowkesh models that came with the kickstarter I am using as Dark Eldar HQ bodyguards.

This is the problem with chasing the big game. It only works if that game is in a slump, and it worked for a while since they were able to get plastic production going, but not so much if you need to sell enough to recoup that cost.

I'm not sure people these days are up for trying a new game that's mass battle and similar to 40k, without just playing 40k.

Supposedly the game was never supposed to be mass battle. It was supposed to be (for the average game) something like One leviathan and a few infantry squads, or a tank, APC, and a few infantry squads.

It was never meant to be anything more than, at most, a couple vehicles and 30 infantry.

I remember when the Paladin lite Mech got previewed. I would have loved to have my army be four of those and some heavy infantry support.


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I did a little digging and I found this. I would have loved for this model to be brought back into production. 7 years and still no word is a downer. Assuming it would be about 20% larger than a Defiler, it looks like it could be made on 4 sprues. 1 repeated four times for the legs (perhaps a couple weapons if room), a couple spues for the main turret, and one for the waist and weapons.

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
I think the divorce with Wargames Factory really hurt. Now in addition to design and manufacturing Mark is doing orders and fulfilment. A lot for what's basically a one man shop.

The divorce with Precinct Omega sets back any hope of a game too...

I wasn't even aware that Mark was looking to outsource his ruleset. But yeah, I think DFG has a clouded future.

OTOH, the FlugStuG would probably make for a really great alt to the GW nuMarines Grav Tank.