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Dankhold Troggoth






Shadeglass Maze

ThouShallNotHeal has reportedly given out the same shipping address as LustrianLizard / Jamesc2012.

See this recent transaction report:
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/542349.page

As well as this one from last year:
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/450649.page

Unfortunately, he does not seem to be learning his lesson. So, I am going to ask the folks who are local to him to once again talk to the police, and perhaps mention this thread. Until they take action, he will not stop.

I am also, for the first time, going to make a sticky warning people not to ship to his location.

Please only post in this thread if you have information related to trading with this user under one of his aliases... also, confirmation that he is indeed giving out an address on Telford Close, Dora Creek, NSW (New South Wales) in Australia would be helpful, just to corroborate things.
   
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Godda***NIT

I just shipped an xbox 360 today for a tau army...118 dollars to ship!

GRRRR!!!!


Automatically Appended Next Post:
I just did a trade and shipped out an Xbox 360 today. Same address, here is the info he gave me:



I am trying to go back to the post office and stop it. It was 118 dollars to ship...I am really not happy now.

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Ontario, Canada

oh man, best of luck to you Jaidon

I have half a mind to kill you, and the other half agrees 
   
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 Jaidon wrote:
Godda***NIT

I just shipped an xbox 360 today for a tau army...118 dollars to ship!

GRRRR!!!!


Automatically Appended Next Post:
I just did a trade and shipped out an Xbox 360 today. Same address, here is the info he gave me:

Teford Close Dora Creek
NSW, Australia, 2264

I am trying to go back to the post office and stop it. It was 118 dollars to ship...I am really not happy now.


Contact the Postal Service and have the package stopped, you still have time!!!!

Also i hope some cops nab this little scamming......

 
   
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If your post office is still open head there now that can stop it for a fee
   
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Yeah..they put in to stop it, hopefully it happens.

I am seriously wondering if I need to make Australia my next vacation...


 
   
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Canada

 Jaidon wrote:
Yeah..they put in to stop it, hopefully it happens.

I am seriously wondering if I need to make Australia my next vacation...


Watch out for those Spiders......They are almost as bad as scammers!

 
   
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Canberra, Australia

This is really disheartening. I just last night made a payment via paypal for some models that ThouShallNotHeal was offering through the swap shop (www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/547634.page). I searched the forums but found nothing incriminating so decided to offer the benefit of the doubt, knowing that if things went south I could take up the issue with Paypal.
If only I had waited a day and seen this post I would have taken a different route.
I will give this a week before I take the issue up with Paypal in case the mistake is an innocent one.
On a side note, while not in NSW, I am an Aussie and can and will follow this up with the local police should this turn out to be fraud. If that happens, I am happy to help fellow Dakkanauts who are having trouble due to international juristrictions.

“Fas est ab hoste doceri. One should learn even from one's enemies.” - Ovid

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Canada

 tameyeti wrote:
This is really disheartening. I just last night made a payment via paypal for some models that ThouShallNotHeal was offering through the swap shop (www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/547634.page). I searched the forums but found nothing incriminating so decided to offer the benefit of the doubt, knowing that if things went south I could take up the issue with Paypal.
If only I had waited a day and seen this post I would have taken a different route.
I will give this a week before I take the issue up with Paypal in case the mistake is an innocent one.
On a side note, while not in NSW, I am an Aussie and can and will follow this up with the local police should this turn out to be fraud. If that happens, I am happy to help fellow Dakkanauts who are having trouble due to international juristrictions.


If i was you i would cancel the payment now, i have seen so many threads on this scammer its insane there are no charges against him.

 
   
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God damn it!

I shipped a Dark vengeance box to him for some Tyranids.\

Address he gave me
Anthony Millner
Telford Close
Dora Creek
NSW
Australia
Slight edit to remove street address and zip code- RiTides

I Knew 2 weeks with no contact was a bad sign..

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From what we've seen in the past, I'd raise the issue with PayPal immediately.

Yesterday, if fact, if at all possible!

Best of luck here.
   
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Canberra, Australia

I don't believe I am able to cancel the payment as it is marked as completed on Paypal. I could raise the transaction in the resolution centre however I feel that I should give the other party a grace period in ordet to do the right thing.
I will be emailing ThouShallNotHeal regarding this issue as he has not responded to my latest PM however the only email address I have for him is the one attached to the paypal account that he gave me. If someone else has an email account for ThouShallNotHeal, could you please PM me. I am willing to provide the email address that he provided me so that we can corroborate.

“Fas est ab hoste doceri. One should learn even from one's enemies.” - Ovid

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Canada

 tameyeti wrote:
I don't believe I am able to cancel the payment as it is marked as completed on Paypal. I could raise the transaction in the resolution centre however I feel that I should give the other party a grace period in ordet to do the right thing.
I will be emailing ThouShallNotHeal regarding this issue as he has not responded to my latest PM however the only email address I have for him is the one attached to the paypal account that he gave me. If someone else has an email account for ThouShallNotHeal, could you please PM me. I am willing to provide the email address that he provided me so that we can corroborate.


Yes you can, i have done it give reason as scammer or phone pay-pal in the morning. (its worked for me)

 
   
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Canberra, Australia

@Witch King of Angmar: Unfortunately not. I just got off the phone with PayPal and maybe their policies are different in Australia as they were not able to cancel the payment, only escalate a claim.

“Fas est ab hoste doceri. One should learn even from one's enemies.” - Ovid

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This area is about 5-10 (rough estimate by looking at Google Maps) hours away from me, and in the same state. Contacting the local authorities would be beyond easy to me, I'm just not sure how to go about it? I mean do police even care about what happens on the internet? Especially if the claim isn't for myself ?

P.S.A. I won't read your posts if you break it into a million separate quotes and make an eyesore of it. 
   
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Canberra, Australia

@Shuppet: The way to go about it is to call the crime stoppers hotline and ask to be put through to the cyber-fraud division. From there you get into the business of presenting evidence and they contact the local police office. If you aren't involved directly though, they don't give the case a high priority.

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 tameyeti wrote:
@Shuppet: The way to go about it is to call the crime stoppers hotline and ask to be put through to the cyber-fraud division. From there you get into the business of presenting evidence and they contact the local police office. If you aren't involved directly though, they don't give the case a high priority.

Which I guess is codeword for "if the people involved don't care then neither do we". I'll just leave it for people who actually dealt with this guy.

P.S.A. I won't read your posts if you break it into a million separate quotes and make an eyesore of it. 
   
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Dang it! This guy just suckered me in the last few days, too! Thanks for the warning. Off to PayPal now...
   
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I'm driving past there in a couple of days. I should pop in and have a quiet word.
   
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Shadeglass Maze

Guys, contacting the police, or even if you were scammed going to speak with his parents, is a good idea. It's possible this person is 19 and somewhat mentally disabled. However, they can mask their IP and are obviously intelligent enough to commit these crimes.

So please, those involved in Australia, follow up most of all with the police, but also his family/parents. This has to stop. Reference Makaleth's complaint number from the last thread- I will copy/paste when on a PC.
   
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Also just to note, ALWAYS file a police report, ALWAYS. If something like this were to go to court the prosecutor will be able to pull those reports and show a pattern of behavior. Even if it takes 20 reports to the police before anything happens you know eventually your report will have made a difference. I you don't stand up to these people they will never get caught.

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 tameyeti wrote:
@Witch King of Angmar: Unfortunately not. I just got off the phone with PayPal and maybe their policies are different in Australia as they were not able to cancel the payment, only escalate a claim.

It's probably better not to cancel, anyway, in the interest of the greater good... taking it through to filing a claim will give the police something concrete to work with, and you are very protected from losing your money by Paypal as long as you file a claim within 45 days.

Since you will not yet have been refunded (unlike the folks who paid GW to send models to him last time) the police will actually have an open dispute to pursue.

Here's is Makaleth's post from the last transaction report, showing which police he contacted and the incident number:

 Makaleth wrote:
ok, quick recap.

The police have been contacted. I cannot put much on the public domain (as that would not be right).

The incident number is ES3031178

The only thing I was allowed to put through officially was my case. I cannot go into detail much anymore as there is an investigation going on.

If you have had items taken (hopefully all of the GW vouchers were returned) you can go to your police and lodge a complaint and they might be able to join them up, but it is not common on this sort of matter.

The short of it. If you cannot reroute your packages, it is almost impossible to get it back as I thought.

If anything else happens (or you have been personally impacted and have questions) PM me or RiTides. I will update when I can.

Thanks All,
and remember... PAYPAL and do not do odd trades with newbies.

 Makaleth wrote:
Also,
I don't have the officers personal details. But the matter number and the Castle Hill Police Station is all that is needed to log that with the NSW/Australian Authorities.

If you need more info to make the complaint please PM me.

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Should I bother filing a complaint with the local police? That is, I'm from the US and PayPal seems confident that I'll be refunded, so will the police even take a report from me? And, are we sure he lives at the city mentioned in the OP?
   
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Ok, good news for me. I was able to stop the package from shipping and get a refund on the shipping charges. So if you are reading this, Mod edit, no Xbox and 9 games with 2 controllers for you. One day you will get your comuppance.

For those who helped, thank you, and if you got taken by this person also, I hope you get satisfaction.

Edited by RiTides

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I received a pm from him out of nowhere with him offering me a Chaos Reaver Titan for $200. I laughed for the fact I already have one, I never asked anyone for one and that he only wanted $200 for the item. Knew it was a scam from the get go. People like this are what ruin our Trade/Sell community.

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Just a reminder that rule #1 (Be polite!) still applies in the SwapShop, especially in Transaction Reports.

Language / name-calling just weakens efforts against individuals who are committing scams/fraud, so please keep comment constructive and on-topic. Thanks.
   
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 tomjoad wrote:
Should I bother filing a complaint with the local police? That is, I'm from the US and PayPal seems confident that I'll be refunded, so will the police even take a report from me? And, are we sure he lives at the city mentioned in the OP?


Yes! The more witness’s the better chance this person will be prosecuted. You guys need to come together and get this person.

Remember always get pictures and check references.

TIP:

Have the seller or trader take a picture of the item with hand written. On the note should be: The Forum name DakkaDakka, the User Handle (name) and the Date.






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This person pmd me after i had put up a swap shop add looking for jetbikes/warp spiders, he had exactly what I wanted and offered him a decent price for them, we talked back and forth a few times and I was ready to send him my money for him to ship the items to me. At this point I gave him my shipping address and asked for his paypal he has yet to contact me since, I did NOT ever get his pay pal, this does not seem like something a scammer would do.

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Admiral General Aladeen wrote:
This person pmd me after i had put up a swap shop add looking for jetbikes/warp spiders, he had exactly what I wanted and offered him a decent price for them, we talked back and forth a few times and I was ready to send him my money for him to ship the items to me. At this point I gave him my shipping address and asked for his paypal he has yet to contact me since, I did NOT ever get his pay pal, this does not seem like something a scammer would do.

He is a scammer. There's no debate on that.

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'lo there.

I was looking at trading on dakka, but I have seen a few reports on people who use it to scam people like this guy. I was just wondering how I can tell if they are like this person? And also if it is worth it at all considering the risk? (sorry if this isn't relevant, but I'm still not too sure of where to find the info on scammers on dakka)

Also, is it common for the scammers to be here in Oz? just trying to get more info on this,

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