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Opinions..... please.....??
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It looks very photoshopped to me.


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Definetely photoshopped, look at the right bottom half of the left leg in photo 3 vs photo 4. There is a crack in photo 3 that isn't there in photo 4.

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This Is Where the Fish Lives

Looks painted. If anything, the white balance was probably adjusted. Do you know who the artist is?


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Niexist wrote:
It looks very photoshopped to me.


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Definetely photoshopped, look at the right bottom half of the left leg in photo 3 vs photo 4. There is a crack in photo 3 that isn't there in photo 4.

Even though In the third picture that part of the leg is being viewed from an oblique angle that crack is definitely there.

EDIT: I found the artist: MichaƂ Pisarski. He is a professional painter from Poland (of course!) who has won quite a few awards.

Here is his CMoN gallery: http://www.coolminiornot.com/artist/Lan+Studio?browseid=6787185
Here is a model he won a GD with: http://demonwinner.free.fr/polonia/2007/golden_demon_winner.php?categorie=4#1st
His commission studio: https://www.facebook.com/LanArtStudio

I would say he is legit.

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 d-usa wrote:
"When the Internet sends its people, they're not sending their best. They're not sending you. They're not sending you. They're sending posters that have lots of problems, and they're bringing those problems with us. They're bringing strawmen. They're bringing spam. They're trolls. And some, I assume, are good people."
 
   
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artist is lan studio.
i'm watching this one actually, not sure if i will bid yet.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/190910023495

he is clearly among the best in the world and it's kind of in bad taste to post something like this OP.

second poster. care to explain more? iv looked and i have no clue what you're talking about.
   
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kb305 wrote:
artist is lan studio.
i'm watching this one actually, not sure if i will bid yet.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/190910023495

he is clearly among the best in the world and it's kind of in bad taste to post something like this OP.

second poster. care to explain more? iv looked and i have no clue what you're talking about.

On picture three, at the very bottom of his leg on picture three the side of the leg that is barely visible there is a crack running from top to bottom on the indent of the armor plate, when you look at picture 4 that crack is not there.
   
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Niexist wrote:
kb305 wrote:
artist is lan studio.
i'm watching this one actually, not sure if i will bid yet.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/190910023495

he is clearly among the best in the world and it's kind of in bad taste to post something like this OP.

second poster. care to explain more? iv looked and i have no clue what you're talking about.

On picture three, at the very bottom of his leg on picture three the side of the leg that is barely visible there is a crack running from top to bottom on the indent of the armor plate, when you look at picture 4 that crack is not there.

No, it definitely is. It is barely visible (again, due to the angle of the picture) but it is there. That artist is insanely talented, he wouldn't need to Photoshop a crack on armor to impress people. He just took home a silver Demon at Germany's Games Day in the Diorama category, it would have been a gold anywhere else but he was up against the breathtaking Tyranid horde vs. Blood Angels diorama made by Roman from MassiveVoodoo.

 d-usa wrote:
"When the Internet sends its people, they're not sending their best. They're not sending you. They're not sending you. They're sending posters that have lots of problems, and they're bringing those problems with us. They're bringing strawmen. They're bringing spam. They're trolls. And some, I assume, are good people."
 
   
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Niexist wrote:
kb305 wrote:
artist is lan studio.
i'm watching this one actually, not sure if i will bid yet.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/190910023495

he is clearly among the best in the world and it's kind of in bad taste to post something like this OP.

second poster. care to explain more? iv looked and i have no clue what you're talking about.

On picture three, at the very bottom of his leg on picture three the side of the leg that is barely visible there is a crack running from top to bottom on the indent of the armor plate, when you look at picture 4 that crack is not there.

I think that is the line shading more than a crack that appears and then disappears.

 
   
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Well, then that's a pretty amazing paintjob, I'd like to see a paint job like that in person.
   
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Bristol, England

It's pretty disgusting but there are people out there that can and do paint like that.
I think it must be some kind of X-men style mutation.

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Everyone: No.
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Came to this thread because it read 'touched up by a computer'...

Saw the painting standard.

Leaves, knowing he'll never be that good

Just wow.

 Blacksails wrote:

Its because ordinance is still a word.
However, firing ordinance at someone isn't nearly as threatening as firing ordnance at someone.
Ordinance is a local law, or bill, or other form of legislation.
Ordnance is high caliber explosives.
No 'I' in ordnance.
Don't drown the enemy in legislation, drown them in explosives.
 
   
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I find the idea you'd put that much effort into an AOBR terminator quite scary
   
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I "fear" it's genuine skill... The strong contrast bay be accentuated by taking the photo with - sorry for the lack of better terms - less light and more exposure.
(A friend of mine achieved a similar level of contrast in photos by using a dark background, putting the light source around 3m/10' away and using a loooong exposure - 10-15", iirc)

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Bristol, England

 PredaKhaine wrote:

Leaves, knowing he'll never be that good

Take some solice in the fact that if you really, really, really practice you might be able to drill your barrels better than that one day.

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North West Arkansas

 Alex Kolodotschko wrote:
 PredaKhaine wrote:

Leaves, knowing he'll never be that good

Take some solice in the fact that if you really, really, really practice you might be able to drill your barrels better than that one day.


Yes, then there is the poorly drilled barrels. I personally don't care for the painting style. I perfer the style posted in Jungle Themed Tyranids, the Ultra Marines he posted are amazing!!

There is something odd in the photos of this one, the Terminator and the base just don't quite appear connected. But it could just be me.

disclaimer, I did not say it's bad just not my choice in style, and the poorly drilled barrels just ruined it for me altogether.

Crush your enemies, see them driven before you and to hear the lamentations of the women.

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 Kelly502 wrote:
 Alex Kolodotschko wrote:
 PredaKhaine wrote:

Leaves, knowing he'll never be that good

Take some solice in the fact that if you really, really, really practice you might be able to drill your barrels better than that one day.


Yes, then there is the poorly drilled barrels. I personally don't care for the painting style. I perfer the style posted in Jungle Themed Tyranids, the Ultra Marines he posted are amazing!!

There is something odd in the photos of this one, the Terminator and the base just don't quite appear connected. But it could just be me.

disclaimer, I did not say it's bad just not my choice in style, and the poorly drilled barrels just ruined it for me altogether.

Poorly drilled bolter barrels? They're slightly off center, hardly a reason to call them "poorly drilled."

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 d-usa wrote:
"When the Internet sends its people, they're not sending their best. They're not sending you. They're not sending you. They're sending posters that have lots of problems, and they're bringing those problems with us. They're bringing strawmen. They're bringing spam. They're trolls. And some, I assume, are good people."
 
   
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Bristol, England

Given the precision and quality of the rest of the work they are poorly drilled.
It's a bit like calling out a professional footballer when they miss a penalty.
Edit: I'm sure that the painter/modeller would agree that they could have been done better?

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 Alex Kolodotschko wrote:
Given the precision and quality of the rest of the work they are poorly drilled.
It's a bit like calling out a professional footballer when they miss a penalty.
Edit: I'm sure that the painter/modeller would agree that they could have been done better?

Okay, they aren't perfect but poor is still a pretty strong adjective to use.

His description of the miniature says he painted it "just for fun." Let that sink in for a minute... he grabbed a random model that was laying around and painted it, presumably out of boredom, and that is what he came up with. To split hairs over how the bolter holes are drilled is just asinine.

 d-usa wrote:
"When the Internet sends its people, they're not sending their best. They're not sending you. They're not sending you. They're sending posters that have lots of problems, and they're bringing those problems with us. They're bringing strawmen. They're bringing spam. They're trolls. And some, I assume, are good people."
 
   
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North West Arkansas

Yes, poorly drilled, kind of like when you see a well painted model and you see the seams of the kit... ruins it for me.

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Crush your enemies, see them driven before you and to hear the lamentations of the women.

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Predakhaine *wants to win the lottery, then commission this guy to paint a whole imperial fists army.*
That is the best painted Imperial Fist I've seen.

 Blacksails wrote:

Its because ordinance is still a word.
However, firing ordinance at someone isn't nearly as threatening as firing ordnance at someone.
Ordinance is a local law, or bill, or other form of legislation.
Ordnance is high caliber explosives.
No 'I' in ordnance.
Don't drown the enemy in legislation, drown them in explosives.
 
   
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The eye of terror

 PredaKhaine wrote:
Came to this thread because it read 'touched up by a computer'...

I'm gonna go ahead and take solace in the fact it's not just me then.

The photography certainly helps which is often something many of us don't do, however even then it's still a stunning piece in it's own right, I'll never be a fan of NMM though.


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Somewhere in southern England.

On a philosophical note, what does it mean that a really good painter shows off his stuff like this and half of us think it looks Photoshopped? I thought it looked P-shopped too.

Could that effect be mitigated by shooting in a different environment?

I'm writing a load of fiction. My latest story starts here... This is the index of all the stories...

We're not very big on official rules. Rules lead to people looking for loopholes. What's here is about it. 
   
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Bristol, England

 ScootyPuffJunior wrote:
Okay, they aren't perfect but poor is still a pretty strong adjective to use...............................................................................To split hairs over how the bolter holes are drilled is just asinine.

Not really, the only thing to get right when drilling barrels is to get them straight and in the right place!
Edit: And perhaps not to go too deep or shallow with the holes.

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Everyone: No.
Oli: But it fits through the doors, Look! 
   
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North West Arkansas

 Alex Kolodotschko wrote:
 ScootyPuffJunior wrote:
Okay, they aren't perfect but poor is still a pretty strong adjective to use...............................................................................To split hairs over how the bolter holes are drilled is just asinine.

Not really, the only thing to get right when drilling barrels is to get them straight and in the right place!
Edit: And perhaps not to go too deep or shallow with the holes.


Exactly.

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It's definitely not Photoshopped. There are a fair few amazing artists out there that can paint to that type of standard. If you guys are interested in looking at more examples, head over to www.puttyandpaint.com and browse through the images there. You could also look at the top artists on www.coolminiornot.com

If your interested in improving your own painting then I'd recommend forums such as www.platoonbritannica.com and creating a WIP thread so that you can get some good feedback on your work and how to improve!

I'm not an amazing painter myself, but I have a website with a contact form built into it, and I'm always happy to help or answer any questions regarding painting myself, so just get in touch! www.miniature-studio.com

Regards.

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Bristol, England

We'd be splitting hairs if if the gauge of the barrels wasn't to our liking.

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I'm thinking the pic has a little bit of photographic post-processing, which makes it pop out. Something in the contrasts and hues that gives me that impression.

That being said, I don't think there's anything added in photoshop - just a ton of careful blending going on. It's possible to get a mini to this quality, just takes a lot of hours to build up the layers. Obviously these are GD-level works, I think someone mentioned he uses 30-40 working hours for a competition mini.

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i didnt notice the barrels until you mentioned it, even then i had to look for awhile.

if i was going to be critical i would say i think the OSL is too strong around the eyes and the color reminds me of girls eyeshadow. the yellow is also too vibrant for me but i guess imperial fists are supposed to look like that. atleast it's not as bad as some bright blue smurfs.

but then considering how long it would take to paint all those black cracks then highlight them with an even smaller line of white nevermind the countless other insane details he's painted i should probably just shut my mouth.
   
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Manila, Philippines

It's both.

You make a great piece, you photograph it then you adjust the levels in Photoshop in order to get a photo closer to reality, because frankly, it's hard to get the actual feel of a miniature without a bit of post processing. it's not even far-fetched that the background could have been photoshopped in (I think it really is). But I will give a guess that it looks like that more or less in real life.


 
   
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kb305 wrote:
artist is lan studio.
i'm watching this one actually, not sure if i will bid yet.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/190910023495

he is clearly among the best in the world and it's kind of in bad taste to post something like this OP.

second poster. care to explain more? iv looked and i have no clue what you're talking about.
Now how is it bad taste i'm just asking a question this is a Q and A page if you don't like it then don't look and further still don't comment on it..!

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Actually, I can see how it could be considered "bad taste".

To ask the question is almost an insinuation that there is fraud at best, and accusation at worst.

It all has to do with implied tone - which to be honest, is very difficult in text (welcome to the internet).

Of course, different viewers then must filter the subject throught their own filters, which may be biased as well based upon their experiences.

A less...."bad taste" form of the post might be...
"This is an amazing model, I am stunned that someone could get this level of detail without photoshop". Although eventhat could be seen as planting the suggestion.

Note, to clarify MY tone, I am NOT accusing you of intentional douchbaggery....I am giving some third party feedback on how this could be construed as bad taste, and why.

Finally, in my own personal opinion, I would not have even considered it to be shopped, because I have seen enough minis of similar standards to accept its authenticity - but that is part of my filter....

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