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The simple idea of 2 Platoons of IG with Hit and Run and scout made me shiver the first time i thought in them..... 50 little guys buffed with Hit & Run, Scout, They shall know no fear, posibly hate, and a real chance for Feel no pain .... Scouting forward and jumping a max of 36 `` each turn shooting and charging into combat any unnit in the battlefield.

Korsarrioh Kahn with bike, a lvl 3 Librarian with bike and BIOMANCY, Techmarine with bike, 2 comand squats with bikes and Grav Guns, 2 Bike squats with Grav guns and combi grav, 1 IG Psiker with biomancy, 1 priest, 2 big IG platoons with several Infantery squats armed with 6 power axes , 6 melta bombs and 6 Melta guns. That could be the seed of the army. on the second line you could add points with thunderfire cannons or storm talons.

Ive test it and it works, Hit and Run simply enance those platoons into real monster, they can shoot anyplace, anything charge to desintegrate any squat and then go for the next leaving the remains for bikes or for its twin platoon

LOL. Nice. Good to see something other than wolf/IG getting a nod.

-Matt

How do you have a masterly lvl 3 librarian? Isn't Tigurius the only Lv 3 in the codex?

I think the reach for Biomancy isn't necessary. However, this does seem like a very strong strategy. Giving the Guardsmen blobs ATSKNF ensures they won't succumb to a sweeping advance or run off the board, while Hit and Run allows them to leave combats they can't win. As long as you can cling to some cover (watch out for Tau!), the blobs will probably be able to stick it out til the late game. You also have the option to outflank your bike units, which is something to be considered in some situations. The only big issue is the fact that you can't cast Prescience on your Manticore (a usual perk of allying in Marines of some variety), but I think the payoff might be worth it!

You also can't scout move the infantry blobs without investing in some Chimeras. Khan requires a unit to have a dedicated transport for a unit to gain Scouts. It'd be an interesting rules debate if buying a Chimera for one squad and then blobbing up into a mega squad still counts as having a dedicated transport.

The attached IC confers scout to the unit, as far as I can tell. Whether or not the Guardsmen have a transport couldn't be relevant in the first place, as they do not have Chapter Tactics.

magodedisco wrote:
The attached IC confers scout to the unit, as far as I can tell. Whether or not the Guardsmen have a transport couldn't be relevant in the first place, as they do not have Chapter Tactics.

Yeah, my bad. The Marine IC would require a bike is all. Otherwise, the IC doesn't get Scout. Also seems a bit of a waste of a marine bike IC.

A waste? well that techmarine and librarian give each of the 2 platoons of 50 men each a lot of nice special rules been scout ( they can outflank) Hit and run, they shall know no fear the most important. those 6 power axes in charge mean a huge lots of attacks and in case you change the librarian for a chaptain then they could get hate. As i told you Ive tried thema nd the movility they get is something weird for a IG big platoon.

Nice idea. There is just 1 concern for this type of unit which is the difference in cover save between the bike character and the unit. This shouldn't be a big deal most of the time as you don't want to tank shots but it is something to keep in mind if you GtG in area terrain.

Scouting such a unit forward could cause all sorts of havok with the numbers of models, special weapons, and sarges. You could also add a midfield ADL to give the unit a really good cover save. You could also use khan to scout another unit and split him off first turn.