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I recently started experiencing trouble breathing after using super glue. Well recently is a bad way to say it. It’s been happening for a while but I used super glue so much it was hard to blame it on just that. After gluing something I have shortness of breath and then go into a full blown asthma attack. I can not use it anymore. I tried using a mask does help much unless I keep the mask on till the glue cures completely. If I inhale any vapors my lungs rebel. Has anyone else had this issue?



 
   
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 Devoted-to-the-machine wrote:
I recently started experiencing trouble breathing after using super glue. Well recently is a bad way to say it. It’s been happening for a while but I used super glue so much it was hard to blame it on just that. After gluing something I have shortness of breath and then go into a full blown asthma attack. I can not use it anymore. I tried using a mask does help much unless I keep the mask on till the glue cures completely. If I inhale any vapors my lungs rebel. Has anyone else had this issue?

By their nature cyanoacrylates (super glues) are toxic and are considered an irritant by most if not all major EH&S organizations around the world. Because there is some minor toxicity with Cyanoacrylates, the 'fumes' that are produced by the glue drying can irritate the membranes in the eyes, nose, and throat.

Also in some cases the fumes can trigger asthma, but this is considered a rare thing.

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I guess I am the lucky guy who gets triggered.



 
   
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 Devoted-to-the-machine wrote:
I guess I am the lucky guy who gets triggered.

I would probably get a small desk fan to blow away from you while you're working on hobbying, open a window, or do anything else that would drive the fumes away from you.

And I know first hand that super glues are toxic... I've spilled glue and acclerants on my hands before completely ignoring the "hazard" symbol on the bottle And I work in EH&S

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it means you've become sensitized - your body has created an allergy to it to get you to stop. you must have been breathing in a lot of the stuff for that to happen.

could happen with paint too if you don't take precautions when airbrushing.

work next to an open door always use fans. read labels on stuff, research, read MSDS, some of the stuff out there is really nasty. getting lung cancer for man dollies would be the lamest thing ever.
   
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i would suggest trying ordourless CA note it takes far longer than 10 seconds to dry (closer to a minute)..it uses a different emulsion (ie the stuff the CA is suspended in and that evaporates leaving the CA as the bond)


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but again still only use in a well ventilated area

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I was reading a wiki entry on super glue and it mentions that in rare cases people can develop an allergy after heavy exposure to vapors, it's likely you're in that minority of people and have a sensitivity that was brought on by past exposure.

One interesting thing I read in the article was that super glue can be used for attaching live coral to armatures, which requires them to remain wet. While I haven't tried it first hand it may be possible for you to eliminate the vapors by gluing parts while they are wet or submerged in a bowl of water which would help prevent the vapors from going airborne. Not sure if it'd work or just make a big mess but it may be worth trying?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyanoacrylate

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 paulson games wrote:

One interesting thing I read in the article was that super glue can be used for attaching live coral to armatures, which requires them to remain wet. While I haven't tried it first hand it may be possible for you to eliminate the vapors by gluing parts while they are wet or submerged in a bowl of water which would help prevent the vapors from going airborne. Not sure if it'd work or just make a big mess but it may be worth trying?


Unfortunately I doubt it will work. If you are gluing live rock or coral frags you have to use gel glue and put it on one surface out of the water. You then put it in the water to attach to the other surface and let it cure. It will cure underwater, but you can't put it on underwater. That and its a pain in the arse holding a lump of coral underwater until it attaches, and you don't have to be too accurate. Gluing a mini would be even worse.

For constructive help, I would suggest getting a mask. One of the cycling or builders dust masks should work as long as it has an ok fit.

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Thank you everyone for the feedback. I work in a hospital, so I have seen a doctor. They pretty much said you “shouldn’t breathe in the vapor, your asthma will flare up.” I am pretty sure I know when I was heavily exposed to it. I built like 50+ Krieg minis in a day last winter. It was winter so I didn’t open the window right next to my little work area. It was a dumb mistake. It was the first time I had the breathing issue that I can remember. I thought it was just my normal asthma. I bought a safety mask and will try the combination of that plus a fan and see if it works.



 
   
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Yep. I get a super runny nose if I do too much glue stuff indoors. And I know it is my fault for not doing well ventilated work. I have had times where I spent all day and the next morning I felt 'sick' like I was coming down with something, and all I needed was to air out my workshop and not use too many fumes.

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I have the same problem. I find that the Loctite Gel superglue does not trigger it.

If I have to use the liquid superglues I use a half-face respirator mask with organic chemical filters which stops the reaction from occurring. It's a real nuisance to wear though although my kids find the Darth Vader breathing amusing.........
   
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 Devoted-to-the-machine wrote:
I recently started experiencing trouble breathing after using super glue. Well recently is a bad way to say it. It’s been happening for a while but I used super glue so much it was hard to blame it on just that. After gluing something I have shortness of breath and then go into a full blown asthma attack. I can not use it anymore. I tried using a mask does help much unless I keep the mask on till the glue cures completely. If I inhale any vapors my lungs rebel. Has anyone else had this issue?


After 3 years of using an acetone based plastic glue (Tamiya Extra Thin Cement) and CA SuperGlue (Bob Smith Industires Insta Cure+), I developed an allegery to both of them roughly at the same time with couging the next day and runny nose sometimes and the occasional sneezing, flu like symptoms essentially. You can feel the irritation in the lungs. If I don't use them and days pass then the symptons go away. I tried a full face mask 3M 6800, big ventilation fans right next to me with their own floor stands and 3M 6098 filters which are meant to filter out organic acids such as acetone but still somehow the vapors affected me (less than before) if say the mask was not fitted perfectly or I walked past the hobby area without a mask after I had been gluing just before.

So I discovered "LESS" toxic alternatives ... for the plastic glue, I used less toxic "Tamiya Limonene" which is a natural citric acid (orange peel concentrate) which works really well on warhammer grey plastics, it doesn't affect me and only takes 20% longer to melt the plastic compared to acetone glues which kill me.

As a replacement for CA glue, I used Bob Smith Industries 5 min Quik Cure Epoxy, it's a two part epoxy glue, far less toxic that CA SuperGlue and the 5 min version can be used on FineCast (not the 15/30 miin versions I think). You have to mix it which is painful but it bonds stronger than superglue, and is liquid enough to say stick magnets in tiny holes on plastic Warhammer miniatures. So epoxy glue is great as a less toxic alternative to CA Superglue. Also you have to be better organized and fast with epoxy as it has a 5 minute work time and in 15 minutes it gets hard and then in one hour it is fully hardened.

   
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