Would you consider the walls of ruined buildings impassable terrain?

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**Sir Arun**

Now I would consider the walls of an enclosed building impassable terrain, i.e. models can only move into or out of the building via its access points.

But say we're talking about a ruin like this one here:

http://i46.tinypic.com/2n850uf.jpg

If I had a tank (e.g. a Vindicator) could I drive into or out of this ruin through the sides that have the solid wall? Since this is a ruin, I can't breach it by shooting at it, so...

Would taking a dangerous terrain test suffice?

**Happyjew**

The normal rule allows models to move through following the normal rules for difficult terrain.

**sirlynchmob**

pg 99That is really for you and your opponent to decide.

default yes.

**paqman**

As previously stated, its up to you.

In my group we play it like this:
Ruined buildings with line of sight bloking walls are impassable terrain.
Doors, even if closed, may be used if the base of the model would go through.

Ruins that are mostly covered in windows like the building you referenced in your image, are considered difficult terrain to cross (models are jumping through windows, breaking the thin window borders or simply smashing through the whole wall.)

That is how we play it at my tables.

**Bobaram**

It's definitely something to just agree on, imo the idea of a tank just rolling through a wall makes perfect sense, especially if there's windows. My gripe would be what the hey happens to the rest of the building, like the floor above where the tank rolled through. But that's why we discuss our terrain rules before the game!

**B0B MaRlEy**

Yeah that's something better to discuss beforehand , but it should be allowed . A tank ploughing through ruins doesn't bother me, as a ruin isn't something that sturdy anymore. I've only attempted it with a vindicator though...

**DeathReaper**

Bobaram wrote:
It's definitely something to just agree on, imo the idea of a tank just rolling through a wall makes perfect sense, especially if there's windows. My gripe would be what the hey happens to the rest of the building, like the floor above where the tank rolled through. But that's why we discuss our terrain rules before the game!

Nothing happens to the rest of the building if a tank rolls through a 1st floor wall because the rules do not say that anything does happen to the other parts of the ruin, and because the rules are an abstraction.

And as for the OP: No, the default is that you can move through the solid walls of a ruin with a DT test, so that is how I have seen it played at every tournament I have played in and at the Chicago battle bunker.

**Sir Arun**

Yeah that makes perfect sense.

I usually deploy my vindie behind a ruin or something instead of out in the open so it wont get targeted and blown up on turn 1.

Then I usually want to move forwards with it instead of backing up and circumnavigating the ruin, so a dangerous terrain test will do (unless it has the siege shield

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**PrinceRaven**

With something like my opponent usually agrees that anything can move through with a dangerous terrain test, but when it comes to more solid walls we usually only allow vehicles and MCs to move through it if there isn't a door or window for Troops to go through.