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Wow, those ones with the goggles worked out great.

Let's see if I have some bodies that have remained headless still laying around...

So I had emailed GW about the orlock cards and dice being out of stock/gone from the website. I was more concerned about the cards than the dice, but whatever. If a new player was to join into a local Necromunda campaign as orlocks he/she would have no ability to obtain these accessories (the cards being more important). Basically they said these were sold as while supplies last type items. The implication was that neither will be coming back (along with all other gangs dice). Thing is neither were advertised or described as being such a limited run by GW. They just quietly off stuff from the site when it's gone.

I know a lot of people are drinking the kool aid and thinking good ol GW has changed but I can't agree with that. A lot of other companies out there make it a point to let consumers know if something is a limited run, or is going to be gone permanently in a reasonable amount of time.

Well, thanks for calling me a cult member. Not sure how to take that, really.

Still, "while stocks last" can mean a few things - for one thing, Blood Bowl dice sets went out of stock and came back in, since they're made by another company; the same is probably true of card components like the card decks. Did they say they're never coming back, or that they'll be out of stock until a new print run is ordered?

 AndrewGPaul wrote:
Well, thanks for calling me a cult member. Not sure how to take that, really.

Still, "while stocks last" can mean a few things - for one thing, Blood Bowl dice sets went out of stock and came back in, since they're made by another company; the same is probably true of card components like the card decks. Did they say they're never coming back, or that they'll be out of stock until a new print run is ordered?

Well you know what I mean, just because GW discovered the power of social media and interaction doesn't make them saints in my eyes. And they said they were "while supplies last items", and that they are now sold out, and said they wished they had better news. There is a slight meh vagueness there, but whatever. Since so many other GW dice sold out and never did, such as custodes and dark angels, etc. I would say they are indeed probably gone, at least for the foreseeable future. They are indeed probably manufactured/outsourced by other companies. And since GW is pumping out new stuff like a mad train, they don't bother to commission more runs of accessories, even though the orlock cards do have an impact on gameplay...unlike the dice.

Yes, I know what you mean. I just don't appreciate you connecting me to a murderous, suicidal cult just because I buy stuff from GW.

I doubt the cards are gone permanently; it'd be one thing if they were standalone optional accessories - in that case I could accept them being limited run items (I can use them against an opponent who also has them, and not use them against an opponent who does not), but they're written into all the scenarios as a balancing mechanism. I'm sure they'll be back.

Specialist Games do commission new runs of accessories - see Blood Bowl dice and pitches.

Eh, whatever. You were so close to making a coherent point about… something? Then you went ahead and proactively insulted anyone and everyone who disagrees with you. Why should anybody want to acknowledge you, much less engage with you, if that’s the quality of discourse we can expect?

I think we'll see the cards return. The gang leaders accessory pack disappeared for a while and re-appeared late last year. It's gone again, so I suspect that they are restocking and selling out rather rapidly. Even the blank fighter cards have vanished for now. Again, I doubt they'll be gone for long as they're pretty much vital for ongoing games...

Y'all need thicker skin if you actually get offended when someone says "drinking the Kool Aid".

Anyway, dice going away forever isn't that big a deal. If you got them, great. If you missed out, that sucks, but life will go on. The cards on the other hand? They're an intrinsic part of the game. They kinda need to keep them around.

Damn, I thought when the thread updated someone might have known the Ambot release date. Oh well, back to waiting.

 Thargrim wrote:
So I had emailed GW about the orlock cards and dice being out of stock/gone from the website. I was more concerned about the cards than the dice, but whatever. If a new player was to join into a local Necromunda campaign as orlocks he/she would have no ability to obtain these accessories (the cards being more important). Basically they said these were sold as while supplies last type items. The implication was that neither will be coming back (along with all other gangs dice). Thing is neither were advertised or described as being such a limited run by GW. They just quietly off stuff from the site when it's gone.

I know a lot of people are drinking the kool aid and thinking good ol GW has changed but I can't agree with that. A lot of other companies out there make it a point to let consumers know if something is a limited run, or is going to be gone permanently in a reasonable amount of time.

I wouldn't worry about the cards, you'll be much better off printing them yourself in magic card dimensions, which allows for sleeving and better storage and transportation with fancy deckboxes.

This tradition of pulling products without notice is something I've grown accustomed to with the initial release of Blood Bowl. Ever since, I buy pretty much everything at launch in fear of those products going out of production or unavailable for a long time (some blood bowl products was out of stock for a year).


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 zedmeister wrote:
I think we'll see the cards return. The gang leaders accessory pack disappeared for a while and re-appeared late last year. It's gone again, so I suspect that they are restocking and selling out rather rapidly. Even the blank fighter cards have vanished for now. Again, I doubt they'll be gone for long as they're pretty much vital for ongoing games...

The tokens can be useful, but you could get by ok with other generic tokens. I would hardly call the cards vital. I've played N17/N18 for 1 year now and never needed a single fighter card.


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 H.B.M.C. wrote:

Anyway, dice going away forever isn't that big a deal. If you got them, great. If you missed out, that sucks, but life will go on. The cards on the other hand? They're an intrinsic part of the game. They kinda need to keep them around.

I would much prefer to buy the dice (if I didn't already have them) than buy the cards. People who play Necromunda typically does so without the need to have GW selling them products. We didn't need GW to sell anything the last 15 years. When GW stop selling stuff for Necromunda, the community takes over. Anyone interested in the cards (in far superior dimensions), pm me.

Baxx wrote:
The tokens can be useful, but you could get by ok with other generic tokens. I would hardly call the cards vital. I've played N17/N18 for 1 year now and never needed a single fighter card.

Actually, it was the scenario cards I found especially useful. Been playing fine for the past year myself as well and I find the fighter cards vital. Don't have the time or inclination to make or print my own. And that's not forgetting the gang specific tactics cards as well...

 Mr_Rose wrote:
Eh, whatever. You were so close to making a coherent point about… something? Then you went ahead and proactively insulted anyone and everyone who disagrees with you. Why should anybody want to acknowledge you, much less engage with you, if that’s the quality of discourse we can expect?

That sounds very hostile!


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 zedmeister wrote:

Baxx wrote:
The tokens can be useful, but you could get by ok with other generic tokens. I would hardly call the cards vital. I've played N17/N18 for 1 year now and never needed a single fighter card.

Actually, it was the scenario cards I found especially useful. Been playing fine for the past year myself as well and I find the fighter cards vital. Don't have the time or inclination to make or print my own. And that's not forgetting the gang specific tactics cards as well...

Yeah the cards can be many things. The Territory cards are ok and useful, but can be translated with a normal deck of cards, same with the sub-plots.

The fighteres cards I never understood the point of, but I've used a roster for 20 years so it may just be an old habit. They tried the fighter/player cards as an option for Blood Bowl, but I only found it useful for demo games introducing new players.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Y'all need thicker skin if you actually get offended when someone says "drinking the Kool Aid".

Offended? No, nothing in here is that important. I just wonder sometimes if people realise what the phrases they use actually mean.

I was assuming he meant the tactics cards; if they go away that's a problem. Everything else? not so much.

Fighter cards or roster? I like the physical act of shuffling the fighter cards to determine random gangers rather than rolling dice and counting down the roster, but it's not important. They're also somewhere handy to put counters, especially if the effects start stacking up (my Champion has suffered a Wound, has a Flesh Wound, is out of ammo and is still to activate this round; that's a lot of counters to pile up on the tabletop).

Baxx wrote:
I would much prefer to buy the dice (if I didn't already have them) than buy the cards. People who play Necromunda typically does so without the need to have GW selling them products. We didn't need GW to sell anything the last 15 years. When GW stop selling stuff for Necromunda, the community takes over. Anyone interested in the cards (in far superior dimensions), pm me.

Ok, but the community took over because GW stopped selling things.

Now they have a new version of Necromunda, and the cards are an intrinsic part of that. Ergo, they should be an evergreen product. That was my point, and is the central premise of my argument. Yours is that we don't need GW, which might as well be a non sequitur to what I'm saying.

Yes I agree.

Well, speak of the devil... guess what products are on last chance to buy?

Orlock cards are already gone.

Well done GW.

What the hell is going on?

Loads have gone up including a load of Kill Team and Blood Bowl gear. Surely they're doing some sort of re-boxing or consolidation. A lot of this is less than a few months old!

https://www.games-workshop.com/en-GB/Boxed-Games?N=3281529261+2385576319&Nr=AND(sku.siteId%3AGB_gw%2Cproduct.locale%3Aen_GB_gw)&Nrs=collection()%2Frecord[product.startDate+<%3D+1548370020000+and+product.endDate+>%3D+1548370020000]&view=all

Playtest decks will probably be replaced with a single pack of Version 1.0 cards (followed by massive errata a week later)

 lord_blackfang wrote:
Playtest decks will probably be replaced with a single pack of Version 1.0 cards (followed by massive errata a week later)

And another $40 book to top it, after all it is the GW way.

And it'll have 8 new cards that you could never get anywhere else.

Which means you’ll need to get the new card sleeves as the pack size of the old set will be too few to cover all the cards.

Wait... the Mortis and Gryphonicus decal sheets are going away? Why? They're web only and don't take up that much room in the warehouse.

 Breotan wrote:
Wait... the Mortis and Gryphonicus decal sheets are going away? Why? They're web only and don't take up that much room in the warehouse.

They probably just sold through whatever piddling little print run they had made.

Boy am I glad I got the Delaque cards. Some nifty stuff in there. Would'a sucked to miss out on the cards for my fav gang only 3 months after they were released.

Don't lose hope yet though. At least some of the AT stuff is NOT going for good despite being labeled "last chance to buy" as new stock is coming up. Maybe necromunda stuff is same? GW entered into realm where we can't tell what the "last chance to buy" REALLY means.

Locally, we have a combination. Most of us are old school so we use the lists more then anything else. Newbs get the new ganger lists and cards, so then it is easier to bring in a new player without whipping them like a dog.

Hardest thing is the added Underhiver stuff from back in the day, and using the new lists as opposed to some of the older stuff....

You have to do a lot of local agreements, and actually be gentlemanly about it.


Necromunda is by far one of my favorite GW games.... I am seeing some real potential with those new Genestealers, that I can honestly see them as a major threat to a local campaign.

I agree wholeheartedly about the Orlock cards and dice. BUT as much as I want to blindly insult random folks on the internet- My gaming has become precious, and I don't see the need to kick people in the face, unless they earn it.

Necromunda is a great game system, and the new stuff has really given it the injection it needs.... NOW I only wish that GW had a Necromunda department, ALA Outlanders magazine, and game department who could work full time on this Gem.


What map do you all use for your campaign system? Do you all have a Necromunda map running around, or do you just make one up?

Been a long time coming, but Bad Zone Delta rules are finally available for download.

About Malfunctioning Generatorium and Archaeotech Device: Guess you have to roll for hit to see if Shock triggers even if these electric features auto-hit?

I'm not sure how collapsed sections work:

Finally, if a weapon with the Blast trait is used and
the centre of the Blast marker ends on a Collapsed
Section tile, roll a D6 for each fighter on that tile.
If the test is failed, the floor shifts and the fighter is
moved D3" towards the nearest Pitfall (potentially
falling if they move into it).

Any ideas?

Initiative roll would be my guess

That would make most sense yes.

Funny they turned the turbine tile right and furnace tile left on the Gauntlet map. Looks like it gives more options for the attackers. This scenario was notoriously suicidal for the attackers. The new door placement (nr 2) doesn't seem to fit well. It isn't located between two walls.

One year into the future, there's still no purpose for the chrono crystal...