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 stahly wrote:
Unfortunately there won't be an in-depth review of the new Chaos models over on Tale of Painters (I did review the Chaos Cultists and Dark Commune here: https://taleofpainters.com/2022/07/review-chaos-space-marine-cultists-dark-commune/) as I'm busy working on next week's review and I've got a Traitor Guardsmen painting tutorial coming up tomorrow

Nice! Very excited to see that.
   
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 H.B.M.C. wrote:
 Crimson wrote:
What's the possessed unit size in the new codex? Can people just easily add the two "greater possessed" models they're likely to have to an unit made out of the new possessed kit without it being a hassle? If so then it seems fine.
10. So if you buy 2 boxes of Possessed and add them to your Greater Possessed you'll have 12. Or one box and have 7. Wonderful.

Given their size, you could combine the left-over parts with some Havocs to make up the numbers. But that would require:

1. Both kits to be compatible.
2. The possessed kit to actually have lots of alternate parts.

Sadly this is not the Citadel Reality we live in. Not since the 1KSons release in 7th.

Wait. The unit size is 10? Does that mean you need two boxes to actually field them?


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 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:
Yes, it indeed is 5-10, but very few people actually ever run an uneven number of models as a general rule.

Ah, OK

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 stahly wrote:
I got the boxes early: https://twitter.com/stahly_top/status/1563451285231194114

I can confirm the Possessed are monopose and the same size as the (former) Greater Possessed. Each of the five models has a choice of two arms. There are three additional heads, per assembly guide meant for specific bodies but if you remove the peg the heads should fit most bodies. Champion can have an optional icon on his backpack, the dude standing on the dead Marine can also have a plain rock instead. Backpacks are interchangeable as they fit any body. Sculpts are all around amazing and as they are Greater Possessed size and on 40mm size, they're taller than Primaris.

Now, the Accursed Cultists... what you see is what you get. Both the Torments and Cultists are all monopose models with no assembly options or optional bitz. Sad but to be expected. Cultists are on 25mm bases and the same size as regular Cultists, Torments are on 40mm bases so they aren't that huge. The detail on these is amazing though, especially the Torments are amazing sculpts again. You can really see how far miniature design has come on these, compare these to Chaos models 10 or 20 years ago.


Can't say I wasn't warned here before Really hurting for the Accursed. Those torment stick out so much that having even two of the same on the table would look silly. Guess it's a "only ever buy once" type of deal for me.

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 stahly wrote:
I got the boxes early: https://twitter.com/stahly_top/status/1563451285231194114

I can confirm the Possessed are monopose and the same size as the (former) Greater Possessed. Each of the five models has a choice of two arms. There are three additional heads, per assembly guide meant for specific bodies but if you remove the peg the heads should fit most bodies. Champion can have an optional icon on his backpack, the dude standing on the dead Marine can also have a plain rock instead. Backpacks are interchangeable as they fit any body. Sculpts are all around amazing and as they are Greater Possessed size and on 40mm size, they're taller than Primaris.

Now, the Accursed Cultists... what you see is what you get. Both the Torments and Cultists are all monopose models with no assembly options or optional bitz. Sad but to be expected. Cultists are on 25mm bases and the same size as regular Cultists, Torments are on 40mm bases so they aren't that huge. The detail on these is amazing though, especially the Torments are amazing sculpts again. You can really see how far miniature design has come on these, compare these to Chaos models 10 or 20 years ago.

Is it possible that you have any Gal Vorbak to make a size comparison with for the Possessed? It would be interesting, considering that they basically have the same stats.
   
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 Gadzilla666 wrote:
 stahly wrote:
I got the boxes early: https://twitter.com/stahly_top/status/1563451285231194114

I can confirm the Possessed are monopose and the same size as the (former) Greater Possessed. Each of the five models has a choice of two arms. There are three additional heads, per assembly guide meant for specific bodies but if you remove the peg the heads should fit most bodies. Champion can have an optional icon on his backpack, the dude standing on the dead Marine can also have a plain rock instead. Backpacks are interchangeable as they fit any body. Sculpts are all around amazing and as they are Greater Possessed size and on 40mm size, they're taller than Primaris.

Now, the Accursed Cultists... what you see is what you get. Both the Torments and Cultists are all monopose models with no assembly options or optional bitz. Sad but to be expected. Cultists are on 25mm bases and the same size as regular Cultists, Torments are on 40mm bases so they aren't that huge. The detail on these is amazing though, especially the Torments are amazing sculpts again. You can really see how far miniature design has come on these, compare these to Chaos models 10 or 20 years ago.

Is it possible that you have any Gal Vorbak to make a size comparison with for the Possessed? It would be interesting, considering that they basically have the same stats.


http://www.thebeardbunker.com/2020/11/fortunate-sons-possessed-gal-vorbak.html?m=1

The greater possessed should be a good indicator
   
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 GaroRobe wrote:
Spoiler:
 Gadzilla666 wrote:
 stahly wrote:
I got the boxes early: https://twitter.com/stahly_top/status/1563451285231194114

I can confirm the Possessed are monopose and the same size as the (former) Greater Possessed. Each of the five models has a choice of two arms. There are three additional heads, per assembly guide meant for specific bodies but if you remove the peg the heads should fit most bodies. Champion can have an optional icon on his backpack, the dude standing on the dead Marine can also have a plain rock instead. Backpacks are interchangeable as they fit any body. Sculpts are all around amazing and as they are Greater Possessed size and on 40mm size, they're taller than Primaris.

Now, the Accursed Cultists... what you see is what you get. Both the Torments and Cultists are all monopose models with no assembly options or optional bitz. Sad but to be expected. Cultists are on 25mm bases and the same size as regular Cultists, Torments are on 40mm bases so they aren't that huge. The detail on these is amazing though, especially the Torments are amazing sculpts again. You can really see how far miniature design has come on these, compare these to Chaos models 10 or 20 years ago.

Is it possible that you have any Gal Vorbak to make a size comparison with for the Possessed? It would be interesting, considering that they basically have the same stats.


http://www.thebeardbunker.com/2020/11/fortunate-sons-possessed-gal-vorbak.html?m=1

The greater possessed should be a good indicator

So, looks like basically the same size. Cool. Thanks.
   
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We should give GW some credit though; while these are monopose and for the cultists monobuild the builds do look really cool. It does suck, massively, that there is little/no customization but they clearly put effort into making the one thing that is there high quality.

If we hyperbolize this into the worst thing then we have nowhere to go for kits that actually are worse!

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 NinthMusketeer wrote:
We should give GW some credit though; while these are monopose and for the cultists monobuild the builds do look really cool.

Third parties have been doing this same exact thing for years. Why am I going to give GW credit?
   
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EviscerationPlague wrote:
 NinthMusketeer wrote:
We should give GW some credit though; while these are monopose and for the cultists monobuild the builds do look really cool.

Third parties have been doing this same exact thing for years. Why am I going to give GW credit?
Do you not give credit to the third parties?

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The new Posessed are the first ones that i actually like to look at (greater posessed were/are also OK).
The old plastic ones have been unbuilt in a drawer for probably 15+ years because for all their flexibility and options i did not find a way to like them.
'nuff said.
   
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The new Possessed might be hideously overpriced and have too little options, but the old ones were just straight up hideous.

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 NinthMusketeer wrote:
EviscerationPlague wrote:
 NinthMusketeer wrote:
We should give GW some credit though; while these are monopose and for the cultists monobuild the builds do look really cool.

Third parties have been doing this same exact thing for years. Why am I going to give GW credit?
Do you not give credit to the third parties?

Seeing as their kits are more modular, yes.
   
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That rather sizable move of the goalposts is a roundabout way to answer the question but I suppose it does answer it.

Edit: To head off the most common response I have encountered in lines of conversation like this; I am perfectly happy to agree, just show me the evidence to back claims made: a kit(s) that is similar or better quality, more modular, and has been available for multiple years. I don't feel it exists.

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For troops it's either $45 with no options or a $60 killteam with a bunch of extra bits for options and customization.

Pick your poison, people will complain either way.

[...] To the Ork, the only conceivable explanation for this is that the vehicle travels faster because it is red. However, as disturbing as it sounds, these 'facts' become true. Red Ork vehicles do travel perceptibly faster than those of other colors, even when all other design aspects are nominally the same. Similarly, many captured Ork weapons and items of equipment should not work, and indeed do not work unless wielded by an Ork. I believe this is linked to the strong psychic aura surrounding all Orkoids and have developed the Anzion Theorem of Orkoid Mechamorphic Resonant Kinetics. I theorise that many Ork inventions work because the Orks themselves think that they should work. The strong telekinetic abilities of the Ork's subconscious somehow ensures that the machinery or weaponry functions as desired.
This is literally all GW has ever writte on this topic - everything else is meme knowledge 
   
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Criticism exists in far more complex terms than yes/no.

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 Jidmah wrote:
For troops it's either $45 with no options or a $60 killteam with a bunch of extra bits for options and customization.

Pick your poison, people will complain either way.

You accepted the Plague Marine datasheet as fine, so you've no room to speak.
   
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 Gadzilla666 wrote:
 stahly wrote:
I got the boxes early: https://twitter.com/stahly_top/status/1563451285231194114

I can confirm the Possessed are monopose and the same size as the (former) Greater Possessed. Each of the five models has a choice of two arms. There are three additional heads, per assembly guide meant for specific bodies but if you remove the peg the heads should fit most bodies. Champion can have an optional icon on his backpack, the dude standing on the dead Marine can also have a plain rock instead. Backpacks are interchangeable as they fit any body. Sculpts are all around amazing and as they are Greater Possessed size and on 40mm size, they're taller than Primaris.

Now, the Accursed Cultists... what you see is what you get. Both the Torments and Cultists are all monopose models with no assembly options or optional bitz. Sad but to be expected. Cultists are on 25mm bases and the same size as regular Cultists, Torments are on 40mm bases so they aren't that huge. The detail on these is amazing though, especially the Torments are amazing sculpts again. You can really see how far miniature design has come on these, compare these to Chaos models 10 or 20 years ago.

Is it possible that you have any Gal Vorbak to make a size comparison with for the Possessed? It would be interesting, considering that they basically have the same stats.


   
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EviscerationPlague wrote:
 Jidmah wrote:
For troops it's either $45 with no options or a $60 killteam with a bunch of extra bits for options and customization.

Pick your poison, people will complain either way.

You accepted the Plague Marine datasheet as fine, so you've no room to speak.


"Attack the person, not the argument" - EviscerationPlague in every single one of his posts ever.

The two things are in no way related. But you having nothing to add any of the discussion you is nothing new.

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[...] To the Ork, the only conceivable explanation for this is that the vehicle travels faster because it is red. However, as disturbing as it sounds, these 'facts' become true. Red Ork vehicles do travel perceptibly faster than those of other colors, even when all other design aspects are nominally the same. Similarly, many captured Ork weapons and items of equipment should not work, and indeed do not work unless wielded by an Ork. I believe this is linked to the strong psychic aura surrounding all Orkoids and have developed the Anzion Theorem of Orkoid Mechamorphic Resonant Kinetics. I theorise that many Ork inventions work because the Orks themselves think that they should work. The strong telekinetic abilities of the Ork's subconscious somehow ensures that the machinery or weaponry functions as desired.
This is literally all GW has ever writte on this topic - everything else is meme knowledge 
   
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 ArcaneHorror wrote:
 Gadzilla666 wrote:
 stahly wrote:
I got the boxes early: https://twitter.com/stahly_top/status/1563451285231194114

I can confirm the Possessed are monopose and the same size as the (former) Greater Possessed. Each of the five models has a choice of two arms. There are three additional heads, per assembly guide meant for specific bodies but if you remove the peg the heads should fit most bodies. Champion can have an optional icon on his backpack, the dude standing on the dead Marine can also have a plain rock instead. Backpacks are interchangeable as they fit any body. Sculpts are all around amazing and as they are Greater Possessed size and on 40mm size, they're taller than Primaris.

Now, the Accursed Cultists... what you see is what you get. Both the Torments and Cultists are all monopose models with no assembly options or optional bitz. Sad but to be expected. Cultists are on 25mm bases and the same size as regular Cultists, Torments are on 40mm bases so they aren't that huge. The detail on these is amazing though, especially the Torments are amazing sculpts again. You can really see how far miniature design has come on these, compare these to Chaos models 10 or 20 years ago.

Is it possible that you have any Gal Vorbak to make a size comparison with for the Possessed? It would be interesting, considering that they basically have the same stats.




So basically identically sized, nice

God the old Possessed were just God awful.

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 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:
 ArcaneHorror wrote:
 Gadzilla666 wrote:
 stahly wrote:
I got the boxes early: https://twitter.com/stahly_top/status/1563451285231194114

I can confirm the Possessed are monopose and the same size as the (former) Greater Possessed. Each of the five models has a choice of two arms. There are three additional heads, per assembly guide meant for specific bodies but if you remove the peg the heads should fit most bodies. Champion can have an optional icon on his backpack, the dude standing on the dead Marine can also have a plain rock instead. Backpacks are interchangeable as they fit any body. Sculpts are all around amazing and as they are Greater Possessed size and on 40mm size, they're taller than Primaris.

Now, the Accursed Cultists... what you see is what you get. Both the Torments and Cultists are all monopose models with no assembly options or optional bitz. Sad but to be expected. Cultists are on 25mm bases and the same size as regular Cultists, Torments are on 40mm bases so they aren't that huge. The detail on these is amazing though, especially the Torments are amazing sculpts again. You can really see how far miniature design has come on these, compare these to Chaos models 10 or 20 years ago.

Is it possible that you have any Gal Vorbak to make a size comparison with for the Possessed? It would be interesting, considering that they basically have the same stats.




So basically identically sized, nice

God the old Possessed were just God awful.


A lot of the bits are still great, though. I'm using a number of the bladed arms from the old Possessed kit as stand-ins for chain bayonets for my Horus Heresy Word Bearers army. I have seen pictures of the old models where they actually look pretty cool due to a cool paint job.

Another good source for converted Possessed are the Dark Vengeance Chosen. They're pretty corrupted already, you just have to replace the arms:
Spoiler:


This, however, is probably my favorite Possessed conversion ever:
Spoiler:
   
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 Jidmah wrote:
EviscerationPlague wrote:
 Jidmah wrote:
For troops it's either $45 with no options or a $60 killteam with a bunch of extra bits for options and customization.

Pick your poison, people will complain either way.

You accepted the Plague Marine datasheet as fine, so you've no room to speak.


"Attack the person, not the argument" - EviscerationPlague in every single one of his posts ever.

The two things are in no way related. But you having nothing to add any of the discussion you is nothing new.

What part of what I said was inaccurate?
   
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 Jidmah wrote:
"Attack the person, not the argument" - EviscerationPlague in every single one of his posts ever.
He's attacking prior positions and opinions held. That's not the same thing as an ad hominem attack.

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Ash over at GMG has kitbashed some great looking Heresy Gal Vorbak from the new Posessed. Seems like if was as simple as replacing the backpacks and heads with more Heresy relevant bits and adding the odd weapon.

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ListenToMeWarriors wrote:
Ash over at GMG has kitbashed some great looking Heresy Gal Vorbak from the new Posessed. Seems like if was as simple as replacing the backpacks and heads with more Heresy relevant bits and adding the odd weapon.


I can’t seem to find it. Got a link?
   
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 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:

God the old Possessed were just God awful.

Could've been worse.

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 GaroRobe wrote:
ListenToMeWarriors wrote:
Ash over at GMG has kitbashed some great looking Heresy Gal Vorbak from the new Posessed. Seems like if was as simple as replacing the backpacks and heads with more Heresy relevant bits and adding the odd weapon.


I can’t seem to find it. Got a link?




5.42 into this video.

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Well, back then, the old Possessed were amazing. They were one of the first Chaos models were they got the mutated power armour look right, before that it was just random tentacles and spikes sticking out (see the very old metal Possessed).

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Yeah it's funny, those models were really cool when they came out.

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Guess it just goes to show that despite everything, GW really consistently improves their models' quality with time.

Because Good God, do modern GW models actually slap in terms of quality and details, barring the more subjective design elements.

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Good news for CSM:

It looks like the Traitor Guard get a sheet for CSM in the near future:
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2022/08/28/sunday-preview-get-ready-to-breach-kill-team-goes-into-the-dark/
   
 
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