Soulhunter wrote:

Cerebrium wrote:I remember seeing on their facebook last night that it's totally non-toxic and requires no special preparation.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA !

Coaldust is 100 percent carbon, non toxic, Asbestos is a mineral which is non toxic.
Still people are dying from it

Da Boss wrote:I think GW would not be stupid enough to expose themselves to the type of litigation that would ensue if it was found that their resin dust was unsafe and they had proclaimed it was.

GW wrote:Everywhere we go at Head Office, we're surrounded by passionate hobbyists who live and breathe the Games Workshop hobby. With the release of the new Citadel Finecast range only days away, we wanted to find out people's thoughts and feelings about the models. Which one would they paint first? So we gathered together several of the most fanatical hobbyists from around the business - sculptors, painters and writers - guys who spend most of their spare time (and often a good proportion of their work time) with Citadel Miniatures, and chucked them into a room full of Citadel Finecast Miniatures to see which one they would choose to paint and why.

After almost half an hour (it could be said that as a group we might, maybe, possibly, be a little bit indecisive), we had all made up our minds on the miniatures we wanted to paint. I went round and had a chat to everyone to find out why they chose the miniature they did. From left to right we are: Chris Peach from the Studio Hobby Team; Myself from the Web Team; Andrew Kenrick, the Editor of White Dwarf; Sculptor Aly Morrison; 'Eavy Metal painter Darren Latham and Event Co-ordinator Nick Bayton.




Darren Latham: I love the Ghazghkull Thraka miniature, which I think is one of the best models Brian Nelson has ever sculpted - I knew I had to paint him (Ghazghkull not Brian...) Part of what makes Ghazghkull cool is the huge suit of mega-armour he wears - all harsh lines and sharp edges, which have been made crisper and more accurate to the original sculpt.


In Finecast Ghazghkull loses a lot of weight, which means no more pinning either. As a painter, I like to just get on and paint a model and this will save me quite a bit of time. And, of course, if you knock him off a table, he's not going to fall apart or chip - a massive win for Finecast.


Chris Peach: After much chin stroking, I finally decided on the Commissar Lord. It was a real toss-up between him and Lelith Hesperax, both of which are awesome models. In the end it was this guy that won though, when it comes to a decision between Imperial Guard and Dark Eldar, the Guard win every time.


What I really like is how well the little details have come out on the model, from the medals to the sash on his waist and even the tiny Imperial Eagles. With such an accurate casting you really can see every little detail. He is going to be an absolute pleasure to paint. I know you were thinking of painting him too, Dan, but well, I found him first, so tough.


Andrew Kenrick: As (a very patient) Dan will attest, I took ages to decide on my first Citadel Finecast miniature, insisting on looking at every clampack in the store. I couldn't decide between Queek Headtaker (to lead my Skaven) or the Space Marine Chaplain with jump pack (to accompany my Flesh Tearers Assault Marines).


I eventually decided to follow the lead of my fellow White Dwarfer Andy Hall and pick the ferocious Skaven Warlord. I love all of the Skaven special characters, but Queek has to be my favourite - his pose is just so dynamic, and the detail on his armour, base and trophy rack is so crisp in Citadel Finecast. I can't wait to get my paintbrush out and paint him!


Nick Bayton: Like the other guys, I was really struggling to choose a model - they're just all so nice. Eventually I settled on Gûlavhar, the Terror of Arnor, as I'm a big fan of The Lord of the Rings and he's a model I've always wanted to paint - he's just such an imposing figure that sums up the whole idea of an ancient monstrous creature from Middle-earth.


I was always slightly scared of building Gûlavhar because of his huge wings but I've been assured that he will glue without pinning now, which is just brilliant news for people who want to get kits like this. What I really want to see is how well the swirls and patterns on his wings came out - they always looked good in metal so I bet they look amazing in resin.


Aly Morrison: I have a huge Undead army, yet I've never bought a Varghulf, so the decision on what model to paint was pretty easy for me. It's one of these bigger kits that I know will benefit from being made in Finecast Resin - it will stick together better and hold together better without any pinning or drilling. To be honest, it's laziness as much as anything else!


When we started experimenting with resin miniatures we knew that some areas like fur and hair would come out fantastically well, which was another reason for me choosing this miniature as he is pretty furry and I wanted to see how well he had cast. I'm going to run straight back to the Studio and cast my eye over it for a bit. I'll probably have it built by the end of the day [which he did - Dan].


Daniel Harden: The model I chose (after Chris Peach stole my first choice) was Count Mannfred, but then this chap caught my eye: the Empire Captain with hammer. I remember seeing this miniature when it first came out and I knew I had to have it, but it somehow slipped under my radar and I never picked it up. Seeing it on the shelf reminded me how much I'd always wanted the model.


What really stands out for me about this model is the character of the piece. At the same time the model is elegant, grizzled, smooth, beardy, war-ragged and flamboyant, making him the perfect commander for my fledgling Empire army. The new cast of the model has rendered him perfectly. It's just awesome, pure and simple.

So the next mission was to get them all painted. Aly ran from the scene with the Varghulf stuffed unsubtly under his jumper. He apparently had a meeting to go to, but we all knew he was off to start building his new model. Chris Peach pegged it too and hid in the Studio with his kit, growling menacingly at anyone that got too close. The rest of us took a rather more relaxed approach to the whole affair and left in good order with our first Citadel Finecast miniature. Check back later in the week to see how we got on with painting them.


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Posted by Dan on Tuesday, 24 May

HAZZER wrote:Guys read this on todays post for GW.
Or here's the text and some pictures:

GW wrote:Everywhere we go at Head Office, we're surrounded by passionate hobbyists who live and breathe the Games Workshop hobby. With the release of the new Citadel Finecast range only days away, we wanted to find out people's thoughts and feelings about the models. Which one would they paint first? So we gathered together several of the most fanatical hobbyists from around the business - sculptors, painters and writers - guys who spend most of their spare time (and often a good proportion of their work time) with Citadel Miniatures, and chucked them into a room full of Citadel Finecast Miniatures to see which one they would choose to paint and why.

After almost half an hour (it could be said that as a group we might, maybe, possibly, be a little bit indecisive), we had all made up our minds on the miniatures we wanted to paint. I went round and had a chat to everyone to find out why they chose the miniature they did. From left to right we are: Chris Peach from the Studio Hobby Team; Myself from the Web Team; Andrew Kenrick, the Editor of White Dwarf; Sculptor Aly Morrison; 'Eavy Metal painter Darren Latham and Event Co-ordinator Nick Bayton.




Darren Latham: I love the Ghazghkull Thraka miniature, which I think is one of the best models Brian Nelson has ever sculpted - I knew I had to paint him (Ghazghkull not Brian...) Part of what makes Ghazghkull cool is the huge suit of mega-armour he wears - all harsh lines and sharp edges, which have been made crisper and more accurate to the original sculpt.


In Finecast Ghazghkull loses a lot of weight, which means no more pinning either. As a painter, I like to just get on and paint a model and this will save me quite a bit of time. And, of course, if you knock him off a table, he's not going to fall apart or chip - a massive win for Finecast.


Chris Peach: After much chin stroking, I finally decided on the Commissar Lord. It was a real toss-up between him and Lelith Hesperax, both of which are awesome models. In the end it was this guy that won though, when it comes to a decision between Imperial Guard and Dark Eldar, the Guard win every time.


What I really like is how well the little details have come out on the model, from the medals to the sash on his waist and even the tiny Imperial Eagles. With such an accurate casting you really can see every little detail. He is going to be an absolute pleasure to paint. I know you were thinking of painting him too, Dan, but well, I found him first, so tough.


Andrew Kenrick: As (a very patient) Dan will attest, I took ages to decide on my first Citadel Finecast miniature, insisting on looking at every clampack in the store. I couldn't decide between Queek Headtaker (to lead my Skaven) or the Space Marine Chaplain with jump pack (to accompany my Flesh Tearers Assault Marines).


I eventually decided to follow the lead of my fellow White Dwarfer Andy Hall and pick the ferocious Skaven Warlord. I love all of the Skaven special characters, but Queek has to be my favourite - his pose is just so dynamic, and the detail on his armour, base and trophy rack is so crisp in Citadel Finecast. I can't wait to get my paintbrush out and paint him!


Nick Bayton: Like the other guys, I was really struggling to choose a model - they're just all so nice. Eventually I settled on Gûlavhar, the Terror of Arnor, as I'm a big fan of The Lord of the Rings and he's a model I've always wanted to paint - he's just such an imposing figure that sums up the whole idea of an ancient monstrous creature from Middle-earth.


I was always slightly scared of building Gûlavhar because of his huge wings but I've been assured that he will glue without pinning now, which is just brilliant news for people who want to get kits like this. What I really want to see is how well the swirls and patterns on his wings came out - they always looked good in metal so I bet they look amazing in resin.


Aly Morrison: I have a huge Undead army, yet I've never bought a Varghulf, so the decision on what model to paint was pretty easy for me. It's one of these bigger kits that I know will benefit from being made in Finecast Resin - it will stick together better and hold together better without any pinning or drilling. To be honest, it's laziness as much as anything else!


When we started experimenting with resin miniatures we knew that some areas like fur and hair would come out fantastically well, which was another reason for me choosing this miniature as he is pretty furry and I wanted to see how well he had cast. I'm going to run straight back to the Studio and cast my eye over it for a bit. I'll probably have it built by the end of the day [which he did - Dan].


Daniel Harden: The model I chose (after Chris Peach stole my first choice) was Count Mannfred, but then this chap caught my eye: the Empire Captain with hammer. I remember seeing this miniature when it first came out and I knew I had to have it, but it somehow slipped under my radar and I never picked it up. Seeing it on the shelf reminded me how much I'd always wanted the model.


What really stands out for me about this model is the character of the piece. At the same time the model is elegant, grizzled, smooth, beardy, war-ragged and flamboyant, making him the perfect commander for my fledgling Empire army. The new cast of the model has rendered him perfectly. It's just awesome, pure and simple.

So the next mission was to get them all painted. Aly ran from the scene with the Varghulf stuffed unsubtly under his jumper. He apparently had a meeting to go to, but we all knew he was off to start building his new model. Chris Peach pegged it too and hid in the Studio with his kit, growling menacingly at anyone that got too close. The rest of us took a rather more relaxed approach to the whole affair and left in good order with our first Citadel Finecast miniature. Check back later in the week to see how we got on with painting them.


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Posted by Dan on Tuesday, 24 May

Noisy_Marine wrote:Hm, in resin you can't chuck Ghazgkhull through a window or at your opponent's head. Well you *could*, but Ghaz would break instead of the window.

Noisy_Marine wrote:Hm, in resin you can't chuck Ghazgkhull through a window or at your opponent's head. Well you *could*, but Ghaz would break instead of the window.

johnscott10 wrote:
Why you would want to throw something costing currently £20 at a window or somethin is beyond me. Its a case of "woohoo! I got a £20 to try form back to normal and re/paint. Oh and im also being sued for damages for breaking a window! I just love givin gw even more reasons to take my money".

johnscott10 wrote:

Noisy_Marine wrote:Hm, in resin you can't chuck Ghazgkhull through a window or at your opponent's head. Well you *could*, but Ghaz would break instead of the window.

Why you would want to throw something costing currently £20 at a window or somethin is beyond me. Its a case of "woohoo! I got a £20 to try form back to normal and re/paint. Oh and im also being sued for damages for breaking a window! I just love givin gw even more reasons to take my money".

Kanluwen wrote:If you really think the metal versions of the Chaos Dread/Ghaz, which in many cases break when dropped from table height to the base of the table would break a window--you're sadly deluded

Bullfrog wrote:

Kroothawk wrote:But if too many "laymen" get pissed by the price hike, sales will drop again. As with every price hike in recent years. Total revenue is flat or declining for years.

I don't pretend to know the ins and outs of the process but I'd imagine a flat margin/profit would be pretty attractive in the current climate, I certainly wish I had one.

baron deathnyx wrote:Ok so that doesn't mean GW is taking over all resin production from FW? because when GW remade the bane blade and the stompa all plastic it sold more than FW ever sold. and with GW making models in resin I think just gives another one up on FW. I can just see it now that in the future GW will be releasing a plastic/ resin nurgle dreadnaught.

Samus_aran115 wrote:There's no way to get more detail out of old molds except by resculpting them.

Noisy_Marine wrote:Hm, in resin you can't chuck Ghazgkhull through a window or at your opponent's head. Well you *could*, but Ghaz would break instead of the window.

Grim.Badger wrote:

Samus_aran115 wrote:There's no way to get more detail out of old molds except by resculpting them.

The case is that the resin flows into intricate detail better - different liquids flow into small spaces differently, for example a high lead pewter will flow better than a low lead pewter, but will be softer; metal alloys also have stronger inter-molecular bonding than plastics and resins which acts in a similar way to water surface tension and stops the metal from flowing into very fine detail [a mix of Degree level metalurgy and A-level Chemistry - apologies if it's not quite right).

reds8n wrote:http://www.giftsforgeeks.org.uk/blog/

Spoiler:

Starting from the 28th of May 120 products that were Games Workshop direct only items will be coming back on the shelves as resin or resin Hybrids. This new range “Citadel Fine Cast” range will be limited in number for the first few months, so we will be taking advance orders for them.

Here are the new recast products at the full RRP;

41-60 COMMANDER DANTE £10.50
53-60 LOGAN GRIMNAR £14.50
55-61 THE EMPERORS CHAMPION £9.50
48-63 SPACE MARINE CHAPLAIN WITH JUMP PACK £10.50
44-60 DARK ANGELS COMPANY MASTER £10.50
48-61 SM LIBRARIAN IN TERMINATOR ARMOUR £14.50
53-61 NJAL STORMCALLER £14.50
41-61 ASTORATH THE GRIM £12.50
43-60 ABADDON THE DESPOILER £14.50
43-61 HURON BLACKHEART £10.50
50-61 ORK WARBOSS WITH ATTACK SQUIG £14.50
50-63 ORK BIG MEK £14.50
50-65 ORK PAINBOY WITH GROT ORDERLY £10.50
46-61 ELDAR AUTARCH WITH POWER WEAPON £10.50
46-62 THE AVATAR OF KHAINE £22.50
46-63 HARLEQUIN DEATH JESTER £10.50
46-64 HARLEQUIN SHADOWSEER £10.50
47-61 COMMISSAR YARRICK £10.50
47-63 IMPERIAL GUARD LORD COMMISSAR £9.50
51-61 TYRANID ZOANTHROPE £15.50
51-63 TYRANID TYRANT GUARD £15.50
51-64 TYRANID HIVE GUARD £15.50
51-65 TYRANID BROODLORD £15.50
57-61 BROTHER CAPTAIN STERN £14.50
57-60 LORD KALDOR DRAIGO £14.50
57-62 CASTELLAN CROWE £10.50
57-63 INQUISITOR COTEAZ £10.50
45-60 DARK ELDAR ARCHON £9.50
45-64 LELITH HESPERAX £10.50
45-63 URIEN RAKARTH £10.50
45-61 DARK ELDAR SUCCUBUS £9.50
56-60 TAU ETHEREAL WITH HONOUR BLADE £9.50
83-62 CHAOS EXALTED HERO £9.50
83-63 CHAOS KHORNE EXALTED HERO £10.50
86-60 EMPIRE CAPTAIN WITH HAMMER & PISTOL £9.50
92-60 WOOD ELF HIGHBORN WITH GREAT WEAPON £9.50
84-60 DWARF LORD WITH HAMMER & SHIELD £9.50
84-61 DWARF RUNELORD WITH GREAT WEAPON £9.50
90-60 SKAVEN WARLORD £9.50
90-61 QUEEK HEADTAKER £10.50
90-62 DEATHMASTER SNIKCH £10.50
91-61 VAMPIRE LORD £9.50
89-60 GRIMGOR IRONHIDE £10.50
89-62 BLACK ORC BIG BOSS £10.50
87-60 CARADRYAN £10.50
85-61 DARK ELF ASSASSIN WITH TWO HAND WEAPONS £9.50
81-60 MALAGOR THE DARK OMEN £12.50
10-61 URUK-HAI WITH CROSSBOWS £14.00
10-62 URUK-HAI BERSERKERS £14.00
08-61 GOTHMOG (PELENNOR) £20.50
05-60 ELROND AND GIL-GALAD £15.00
10-60 SARUMAN AND GRIMA £15.00
02-60 GANDALF THE WHITE £20.50
04-60 ARAGORN (THE BLACK GATE) £20.50
04-62 THEODEN (HELM’S DEEP) £20.50
04-61 BOROMIR (ITHILIEN) £20.50
09-60 SULADAN THE SERPENT LORD £20.50
08-62 THE DARK MARSHAL (RINGWRAITH) £20.50
05-61 DAIN AND BALIN £15.00
97-60 SKULLTAKER £14.50
48-40 MARNEUS CALGAR AND HONOUR GUARD £36.00
48-41 SPACE MARINE TECHMARINE WITH SERVITORS £25.50
55-40 BLACK TEMPLARS SWORD BRETHREN SQUAD £25.50
48-42 SPACE MARINE STERNGUARD VETERAN SQUAD £25.50
48-43 SPACE MARINE VANGUARD VETERAN SQUAD £25.50
53-40 CANIS WOLFBORN £30.00
43-40 NURGLE DAEMON PRINCE £21.50
43-41 CHAOS SPACE MARINE RAPTORS £25.50
43-42 DEATH GUARD PLAGUE MARINES £25.50
50-43 BOSS ZAGSTRUK £14.50
50-40 GHAZGHKULL THRAKA £22.50
50-41 ORK TANKBUSTAS £25.50
50-42 ORK BIG MEK WITH SHOKK ATTACK GUN £23.00
46-41 ELDAR RANGERS £20.50
46-42 ELDAR DARK REAPERS £23.00
46-44 ELDAR STRIKING SCORPIONS £23.00
46-40 ELDAR FARSEER AND WARLOCKS £20.50
51-42 TYRANID LICTOR £15.50
51-40 TYRANID HIVE TYRANT £36.00
51-41 TYRANID PYROVORE £21.50
45-40 DARK ELDAR INCUBI £23.00
45-41 DARK ELDAR MANDRAKES £20.50
56-40 TAU SNIPER DRONE TEAM £23.00
83-42 ARCHAON THE EVERCHOSEN £30.00
83-43 CHAOS LORD ON DAEMONIC MOUNT £22.50
83-41 CHAOS DRAGON OGRE SHAGGOTH £36.00
86-41 LUDWIG SCHWARZHELM £22.50
86-40 KURT HELBORG £22.50
82-41 THE GREEN KNIGHT £22.50
82-40 KING LOUEN LEONCOEUR £30.00
92-42 WOOD ELVES TREE KIN £30.00
92-40 ORION KING IN THE WOODS £22.50
92-41 WOOD ELVES TREEMAN £36.00
84-40 THOREK IRONBROW £36.00
84-41 DWARF GYROCOPTER £23.00
84-42 DWARF BOLT THROWER £23.00
90-40 SKAVEN WARPLOCK JEZZAILS £30.00
91-40 VAMPIRE COUNTS VARGHULF £21.50
91-42 COUNT MANNFRED £22.50
91-41 VAMPIRE COUNTS BLOOD KNIGHTS £61.50
88-41 KROQ GAR £40.00
89-44 GOBLIN SPEAR CHUKKA £18.50
89-43 SAVAGE ORC GREAT SHAMAN ON WAR BOAR £15.50
89-41 ORC WARBOSS ON WYVERN £40.00
89-42 GOBLIN ROCK LOBBER £23.00
89-45 GORBAD IRONCLAW £30.00
89-40 AZHAG THE SLAUGHTERER £55.00
85-41 DARK ELVES REAPER BOLT THROWER £18.50
08-40 THE DARK LORD SAURON £25.50
08-42 GULAHVAR THE TERROR OF ARNOR £30.00
08-43 MORDOR TROLL CHIEFTAIN £25.50
02-40 THE FELLOWSHIP OF THE RING £37.00
97-42 FLAMERS OF TZEENTCH £15.50

Dannis wrote:The one that strikes me though, why would they show the old casts with 'Fine Cast' title underneath it? Please... please don't advertise new stuff with old models ffs...

Darth Bob wrote:Well. I for one am not going to jump on the "let's hate on GW because price raises are bad" bandwagon because I know that a good chunk of you would be doing nothing but drooling over these models were there no price raises.