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2024/05/27 14:14:06
Subject: AoS N&R (Skaven+SCE Reveals p12, Abraxia+Dawnbringers VI p16, SCE Faction Focus p17)
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Apparently, it's an acceptable older spelling for military use.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2024/05/27 14:18:26
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2024/05/27 14:17:32
Subject: AoS N&R (Skaven+SCE Reveals p12, Abraxia+Dawnbringers VI p16, SCE Faction Focus p17)
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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I was just about to google that, so thank you for saving me the trip. Still looks very silly, though. With GW's love of making up their own variations of common words, I was 60% sure they were just looking for something they could add TM to.
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2024/05/27 15:18:19
Subject: Re:AoS N&R (Skaven+SCE Reveals p12, Abraxia+Dawnbringers VI p16, SCE Faction Focus p17)
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Dominating Dominatrix
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Looks really good, and I usually prefer helmeted ones. Here both are worth choosing.
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2024/05/27 17:34:19
Subject: AoS N&R (Skaven+SCE Reveals p12, Abraxia+Dawnbringers VI p16, SCE Faction Focus p17)
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Huge Bone Giant
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Scottywan82 wrote:
I was just about to google that, so thank you for saving me the trip. Still looks very silly, though. With GW's love of making up their own variations of common words, I was 60% sure they were just looking for something they could add TM to.
I thought it's because every officer is also a vicar, what with the whole crusading crusaders of Sigmar religious theme Cities now have.
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Nehekhara lives! Sort of!
Why is the rum always gone? |
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2024/05/28 00:48:05
Subject: AoS N&R (Skaven+SCE Reveals p12, Abraxia+Dawnbringers VI p16, SCE Faction Focus p17)
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Sounds Old English.
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2024/05/28 11:22:46
Subject: AoS N&R (Skaven+SCE Reveals p12, Abraxia+Dawnbringers VI p16, SCE Faction Focus p17)
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Regular Dakkanaut
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It's not. Both versions of the word come from Latin via Norman French, so the other half of the modern English mix from Old English.
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2024/05/28 14:01:54
Subject: AoS N&R (Skaven+SCE Reveals p12, Abraxia+Dawnbringers VI p16, SCE Faction Focus p17)
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Dominating Dominatrix
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2024/05/28 14:18:07
Subject: AoS N&R (Skaven+SCE Reveals p12, Abraxia+Dawnbringers VI p16, SCE Faction Focus p17)
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Not familiar with how Kharadron play, but a lot of people seem happy about the chages. I'll take that as a plus.
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2024/05/28 15:18:34
Subject: AoS N&R (Skaven+SCE Reveals p12, Abraxia+Dawnbringers VI p16, SCE Faction Focus p17)
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Interesting that units don't actually go inside the ships anymore. I can see how it simplifies things in the game, but it feels wrong somehow.
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2024/05/28 15:23:43
Subject: AoS N&R (Skaven+SCE Reveals p12, Abraxia+Dawnbringers VI p16, SCE Faction Focus p17)
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Strangely Beautiful Daemonette of Slaanesh
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Scottywan82 wrote:Interesting that units don't actually go inside the ships anymore. I can see how it simplifies things in the game, but it feels wrong somehow.
agreed... would look beter with cables and ropes hanging down for the troops to grab and "ride" in on...
but would look even better if it was Goblins doing it!
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2024/05/28 15:44:11
Subject: AoS N&R (Skaven+SCE Reveals p12, Abraxia+Dawnbringers VI p16, SCE Faction Focus p17)
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Dominating Dominatrix
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There was a mention about goblin sky pirates in AOS lore so maybe one day those will show up?
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2024/05/28 15:49:17
Subject: AoS N&R (Skaven+SCE Reveals p12, Abraxia+Dawnbringers VI p16, SCE Faction Focus p17)
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Shadow Walker wrote:
There was a mention about goblin sky pirates in AOS lore so maybe one day those will show up?
I always figured those were "convert Khadorans and Goblins" ideas more than full faction. That said the opening days of AoS there were a LOT of minor factions teased; partly cause I figure GW's plan at the time was they were going to do lots of small "armies".
4 Grand Alliances that don't end and then just rotate new armies in and out of them with one or two wave releases depending on how they sell. Fits for the casual game and "everyone just collects models and doesn't play" approach that their marketing was based on at the time.
Same as how there were undersea nymphs teased for the Sylvaneth and a bunch of other things. Heck Malarion - one of the biggest armies in the Shadow Realm - was teased then and still hasn't had a release.
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2024/05/28 15:52:29
Subject: AoS N&R (Skaven+SCE Reveals p12, Abraxia+Dawnbringers VI p16, SCE Faction Focus p17)
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Dominating Dominatrix
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Maybe they are saving Malerion for 5th launch box?
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2024/05/28 16:11:02
Subject: AoS N&R (Skaven+SCE Reveals p12, Abraxia+Dawnbringers VI p16, SCE Faction Focus p17)
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Whilst I love Ossiarchs and whilst I do think Skaven did need a huge refresh I'm genuinely surprised that GW hasn't used either of those two slots for Malerion. He's clearly a key character in the God Pantheon and rules one of the whole Realms more or less.
I figure its possibly the same reason GW hasn't done anything with the Dark Elf stuff in Cities of Sigmar. All that side seems to have a huge questionmark over what GW are going to do with them and GW doesn't seem to want to commit to any one choice. Heck they even soft rebuilt the army with one of the expansion books rolling the Dark Elf stuff back into Daughters of Khaine.
Part of me wonders if GW didn't want to put DoK back into the Dark Elf and then just release a few heroes and call it "Malarion's" army and then DoK wound up being actually pretty popular .
Who knows, but it is odd that one of the biggest characters and armies just isn't there in lore or game.
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2024/05/29 13:05:30
Subject: Re:AoS N&R (Skaven+SCE Reveals p12, Abraxia+Dawnbringers VI p16, SCE Faction Focus p17)
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Brainy Biophagus Brewing Potent Chemicals
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https://www.warhammer-community.com/2024/05/29/warhammer-age-of-sigmar-faction-focus-disciples-of-tzeentch/
Tzeentch faction focus Automatically Appended Next Post: changes to summoning rules are big. wonder how that's going to affect Seraphon
like the burning mechanic, tho. that's neat
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2024/05/29 13:55:54
Subject: AoS N&R (Skaven+SCE Reveals p12, Abraxia+Dawnbringers VI p16, SCE Faction Focus p17)
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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I'll need time to read it properly later, but the summoning changes are very interesting.
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2024/05/29 16:29:46
Subject: Re:AoS N&R (Skaven+SCE Reveals p12, Abraxia+Dawnbringers VI p16, SCE Faction Focus p17)
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Savage Minotaur
Baltimore, Maryland
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There is no summoning units from nothing in the new edition of Warhammer Age of Sigmar, in order to reduce the need for extra miniatures beyond your initial army list.
Nice.
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2024/05/29 19:57:32
Subject: AoS N&R (Skaven+SCE Reveals p12, Abraxia+Dawnbringers VI p16, SCE Faction Focus p17)
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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I like these new summoning rules. A lot. Seems like someone finally thought of a way to summon and actually keep it reigned in.
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2024/05/29 20:30:45
Subject: AoS N&R (Skaven+SCE Reveals p12, Abraxia+Dawnbringers VI p16, SCE Faction Focus p17)
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Tzeentch Aspiring Sorcerer Riding a Disc
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Summoning was always kinda gimmicky to begin with.
Now, the changes to Horrors splitting? That's a little upsetting. There had better be a massive points reduction on them, now.
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2024/05/29 20:43:15
Subject: AoS N&R (Skaven+SCE Reveals p12, Abraxia+Dawnbringers VI p16, SCE Faction Focus p17)
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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I don't really see why it would be upsetting. Restricting them from going over unit size is good. With a little bit of planning you can basically get a constant regenning full sized unit.
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2024/05/29 20:50:32
Subject: AoS N&R (Skaven+SCE Reveals p12, Abraxia+Dawnbringers VI p16, SCE Faction Focus p17)
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Tzeentch Aspiring Sorcerer Riding a Disc
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Inquisitor Gideon wrote:I don't really see why it would be upsetting. Restricting them from going over unit size is good. With a little bit of planning you can basically get a constant regenning full sized unit.
Someone on Facebook spelled it out quite nicely: In order for Pinks to split, there have to be Blues nearby. If the Blues are still full, the Pinks can't split. If the Blues get wiped, the Pinks can't split.
Having a unit ability - especially one as iconic as Splitting - being wholly dependent upon having a specific unit which has taken casualties nearby is more than a little off-putting.
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2024/05/29 21:18:31
Subject: AoS N&R (Skaven+SCE Reveals p12, Abraxia+Dawnbringers VI p16, SCE Faction Focus p17)
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Well it's one of those balance over fluff instances. Summoning has to be controlled and i see this as quite a neat way to do it. Just means you'll have to plan around the splitting if you want to take full advantage of it.
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2024/05/29 21:24:32
Subject: AoS N&R (Skaven+SCE Reveals p12, Abraxia+Dawnbringers VI p16, SCE Faction Focus p17)
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Brainy Biophagus Brewing Potent Chemicals
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yeah, it adds a new tactical element to the army, both something to keep in mind, and a bit of counterplay (and if splitting isn't an option, then there's the alternative. there's definitely worse ways they could have handled this ability
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2024/05/29 21:37:03
Subject: AoS N&R (Skaven+SCE Reveals p12, Abraxia+Dawnbringers VI p16, SCE Faction Focus p17)
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Tzeentch Aspiring Sorcerer Riding a Disc
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Inquisitor Gideon wrote:Well it's one of those balance over fluff instances. Summoning has to be controlled and i see this as quite a neat way to do it. Just means you'll have to plan around the splitting if you want to take full advantage of it.
Why bother? A halfway competent opponent will just focus on the Pinks before even looking at the Blues, and with only a 6+/6++ to protect them, it won't take much to wipe them (though, now having two wounds makes them a bit tougher).
Granted, I'm dooming and glooming before seeing all the rules, so we'll have to wait and see what other synergies come into play. For right now, initial reactions? Not impressed. Automatically Appended Next Post: StudentOfEtherium wrote:yeah, it adds a new tactical element to the army, both something to keep in mind, and a bit of counterplay (and if splitting isn't an option, then there's the alternative. there's definitely worse ways they could have handled this ability
...an alternative that requires the unit being in a position they really don't want to be in.
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2024/05/30 08:15:54
Subject: AoS N&R (Skaven+SCE Reveals p12, Abraxia+Dawnbringers VI p16, SCE Faction Focus p17)
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Foxy Wildborne
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Considering that recycling units is a common, fully integrated mechanic, might have been better for Pinks that get wiped out to simply be recycled as a full sized unit of Blues (rather than the usual half sized original unit) And I dunno about Summoning, isn't it just Reserves With Extra Steps? It's the same thing as Stormcast teleporting but worse. Is there a provision for what to do with a unit in the Silver Tower (or other faction equivalent) if the summoner is sniped?
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2024/05/30 10:49:58
Subject: AoS N&R (Skaven+SCE Reveals p12, Abraxia+Dawnbringers VI p16, SCE Faction Focus p17)
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Summoning jumps around. Sometimes its just a reserves system; sometimes its better or worse (more or less reliable on dice rolls to come in); sometimes its totally free new models being added to your army in full squads; sometimes its restoring lost models to a squad.
It's varied a lot over the years and in general its always tricky whenever its been free squads because even weak squads are still free things to use.
The other issue is that pinks to blue increases the number of models. So you can't just run it like a degrading unit profile that just changes the model at some point.
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2024/05/30 13:47:34
Subject: AoS N&R (Skaven+SCE Reveals p12, Abraxia+Dawnbringers VI p16, SCE Faction Focus p17)
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Dominating Dominatrix
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2024/05/30 13:49:18
Subject: AoS N&R (Skaven+SCE Reveals p12, Abraxia+Dawnbringers VI p16, SCE Faction Focus p17)
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Ridin' on a Snotling Pump Wagon
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Looking pretty hitty! Basic Bulls are A4, 4+ to hit, 2+ to wound, Rend 1 Dam 2.
That’s…that’s decent, I think. Spesh if I can wrangle up a +1 to hit.
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2024/05/30 14:38:16
Subject: AoS N&R (Skaven+SCE Reveals p12, Abraxia+Dawnbringers VI p16, DoT + Mawtribe Faction Focus p20)
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Hm, now that beasts have been kicked, the final force that is due an army sized refresh.
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2024/05/30 14:51:01
Subject: AoS N&R (Skaven+SCE Reveals p12, Abraxia+Dawnbringers VI p16, DoT + Mawtribe Faction Focus p20)
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Evasive Eshin Assassin
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man it seems like they are really loving delayed deployment stuff and rend.
it seems that just about everything that we have seen has at least rend one.
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