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Cool and dissapointing at the same time. Really like the concepts of some of these guys and girls, but there's an overload of special characters.

A second sets of plastic for each gangs is great great news. Hope that going forward, all new gangs have both sets at release day (or even better, instead of getting 2 duplicate sprues in gang box, with get one of each sets)

Really dissapointing that no new plastic gang was shown

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The Delaque weapon packs are great- those are significantly reposed arms right? Many of the weapons on the plastic sprue can be found in two-handed grips on those sprues, like the long rifle.

Also really liking the style of the Delaque weapons. Would make for some great Inquisitor warbands.

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Silly pet peeve of mine, but why does ever model have mismatched shoes? Ay, not EVERY model, but it is plentiful enough to be asked. Were there two competing houses of shoe manufacturing in the hive and the nobility decided to keep things fair they each could only make a one sided shoe? You lot make left shoes, you lot make right shoes. And to keep down the monopoly they said no collaboration, so no matching sets.

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During the Guild Wars the Cobbler's Guild was the first casualty.

All shoes in the Underhive, like a lot of Imperial technology, are just shoes handed down through generation after generation, lovingly patched up, but no one knows how to make new ones.

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 Theophony wrote:
Silly pet peeve of mine, but why does ever model have mismatched shoes? Ay, not EVERY model, but it is plentiful enough to be asked. Were there two competing houses of shoe manufacturing in the hive and the nobility decided to keep things fair they each could only make a one sided shoe? You lot make left shoes, you lot make right shoes. And to keep down the monopoly they said no collaboration, so no matching sets.


Really? I've just looked through all the models and artwork from the last page, and there is one model with obviously mismatched shoes (the dome runner), who looks like he has entirely lost his right shoe, and two models with matching shoes but mismatched repairs (the squat ammo jack and the bounty hunter with the long rifle- a wrap and stitching respectively). Every other model and concept on that page has matching footwear.

Some of them have mismatched shin guards, but then I suppose they have scavenged them, rather than purchased them.

Just not seeing the odd shoes everywhere.

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 streetsamurai wrote:
Cool and dissapointing at the same time. Really like the concepts of some of these guys and girls, but there's an overload of special characters.

A second sets of plastic for each gangs is great great news. Hope that going forward, all new gangs have both sets at release day (or even better, instead of getting 2 duplicate sprues in gang box, with get one of each sets)

Really dissapointing that no new plastic gang was shown


I am hoping that many of special characters have a obvious generic version they can also be used for - so Hive Noble or like the Squat ammo grunt

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 Mr Morden wrote:
 streetsamurai wrote:
Cool and dissapointing at the same time. Really like the concepts of some of these guys and girls, but there's an overload of special characters.

A second sets of plastic for each gangs is great great news. Hope that going forward, all new gangs have both sets at release day (or even better, instead of getting 2 duplicate sprues in gang box, with get one of each sets)

Really dissapointing that no new plastic gang was shown


I am hoping that many of special characters have a obvious generic version they can also be used for - so Hive Noble or like the Squat ammo grunt

Can't literally all the special bounty hunters just be used as a bounty hunter of your own devising? They give them a name and backstory, but they don't need that.

The squat can surely just be used as a standard ammo jack?

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Plus the various bounty hunters (and, really, every Necromunda mini ever produced) are just gold for the 40K RPGs.


Also, did they talk about the cards (or lack thereof) during the seminar? I was advised that it would be directly addressed.

   
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That just looks like GW is throwing Spaghetti at the wall and hoping some of it sticks....

And, yeah.. Thanks GW for more Forgeworld stuff that we will never see because it is priced out of range- yet again....

I don't know... I want to get excited, but then again, I'm happy that the game is out, I think that that's enough to start with.

Great Job, GW. You did a great job, but at the same time, I'm having a hard time keeping motivated because you are just doing too much busy-body stuff before you get the ground floor finished. It's like building a house, and worrying about a garden before you even have the roof on the house.

And what is up with that "Squat"? He's about the size of an Qgryn… What, did he eat his Wheaties?

I'm sounding a little bitter, but in the end its neat to actually see that someone up at GW has some serious motivation... Hopefully we can even see half of this stuff, and get it out before they shut down Necromunda again. Seriously, Great job GW. Looks great.

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Love how the Newcromunda pushes the 40K dial away from the Starship Troopers side and more towards the Dune side. This could get expensive.
   
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 Haighus wrote:
 Mr Morden wrote:
 streetsamurai wrote:
Cool and dissapointing at the same time. Really like the concepts of some of these guys and girls, but there's an overload of special characters.

A second sets of plastic for each gangs is great great news. Hope that going forward, all new gangs have both sets at release day (or even better, instead of getting 2 duplicate sprues in gang box, with get one of each sets)

Really dissapointing that no new plastic gang was shown


I am hoping that many of special characters have a obvious generic version they can also be used for - so Hive Noble or like the Squat ammo grunt

Can't literally all the special bounty hunters just be used as a bounty hunter of your own devising? They give them a name and backstory, but they don't need that.

The squat can surely just be used as a standard ammo jack?


Thats what I meant

"Unimaginably ancient xenos artefact somewhere on the planet, hive fleet poised above our heads, hidden 'stealer broods making an early start....and now a bloody Chaos cult crawling out of the woodwork just in case we were bored. Welcome to my world, Ciaphas."
Inquisitor Amberley Vail, Ordo Xenos

"I will admit that some Primachs like Russ or Horus could have a chance against an unarmed 12 year old novice but, a full Battle Sister??!! One to one? In close combat? Perhaps three Primarchs fighting together... but just one Primarch?" da001

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 Grot 6 wrote:

Great Job, GW. You did a great job, but at the same time, I'm having a hard time keeping motivated because you are just doing to much busy-body stuff before you get the ground floor finished. It's like building a house, and worrying about a garden before you even have the roof on the house.


I dunno, the 6 main Houses are out now. The core rule sets are complete.

For me, anything else that comes out is a bonus.

   
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 Flashman wrote:
 Grot 6 wrote:

Great Job, GW. You did a great job, but at the same time, I'm having a hard time keeping motivated because you are just doing to much busy-body stuff before you get the ground floor finished. It's like building a house, and worrying about a garden before you even have the roof on the house.


I dunno, the 6 main Houses are out now. The core rule sets are complete.

For me, anything else that comes out is a bonus.


I have to agree, I'm just still- even after a few months- having issue even getting even those basic first six gangs.

I honestly have mixed feelings on what was presented, but am at the same time both impressed and peeved that they are leaning too much to Forgeworld for this stuff, because where I am at, it's near impossible for me to get Forgeworld. So with that as a personal issue, I can see how it looksl ike I'm throwing hate at the game. It's not intentional, it's just from personal issue of trying to get even 1 thing from forgeworld and running into the wall time and time again. Its either overpriced, out of stock, or the website doesn't work out for me, I have issues with that- it shouldn't be that hard.

I had to go back and addendum my post because it sounded like I am bitching, but at the end of the day, I'm grateful to see that there is someone at GW who put together a long range plan. That's even more then anyone could have asked for. Slow and Steady wins the race, I guess... I get it if I can, and get happy when it's in hand.



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Gotta say, it all "sounds" cool, but then I remember it's Forgeworld resin and Forgeworld prices for most of what they've shown and I return to "meh". Played some Necromunda recently and while the mechanics are fine, the power balance and the massive prevalence of so many special/heavy weapons has actually turned me off the game quite a bit.


 
   
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Not only that, but now FW is more expensive if you're not in the UK because burble burble conversion cots mumble mumble reasons.

Anyway, my fear with these announcements aren't that they're bad ideas - they all sound like heaps of fun - but more because I've heard it before. Hive Secundus was meant to be something Fanatic did back in the day. I seem to recall my homeboy Jervis talking about the big plans for the future of Necromunda.

Well here we are many years later, and GW just spent a year releasing a bunch of Gang War books that they made basically redundant by the end of that year, and with a whole host of cards they can't sell any more because they ran out. And now they're apparently going to do Hive Mortis, Hive Arcos, Hive Secundus, the Sump Seas, the Polar Scrap Spoils, the Bore Mines of the Great Fissure, the Navis Mortua (which sounds awesome!), The Eye of Selene and some vehicle based Mad Max-y Ash Wastes stuff? With the speed FW releases things? They haven't even finished releasing all the Bounty Hunters from the second fething Gang War book!

Yeah. Sure they are...

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 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Plus the various bounty hunters (and, really, every Necromunda mini ever produced) are just gold for the 40K RPGs.


Also, did they talk about the cards (or lack thereof) during the seminar? I was advised that it would be directly addressed.


I'd imagine as they've previewed card sleeves, they'll be back sooner rather than later.
   
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 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Not only that, but now FW is more expensive if you're not in the UK because burble burble conversion cots mumble mumble reasons.

Anyway, my fear with these announcements aren't that they're bad ideas - they all sound like heaps of fun - but more because I've heard it before. Hive Secundus was meant to be something Fanatic did back in the day. I seem to recall my homeboy Jervis talking about the big plans for the future of Necromunda.

Well here we are many years later, and GW just spent a year releasing a bunch of Gang War books that they made basically redundant by the end of that year, and with a whole host of cards they can't sell any more because they ran out. And now they're apparently going to do Hive Mortis, Hive Arcos, Hive Secundus, the Sump Seas, the Polar Scrap Spoils, the Bore Mines of the Great Fissure, the Navis Mortua (which sounds awesome!), The Eye of Selene and some vehicle based Mad Max-y Ash Wastes stuff? With the speed FW releases things? They haven't even finished releasing all the Bounty Hunters from the second fething Gang War book!

Yeah. Sure they are...




Have to agree with this, while these ideas sounds great for the most part, it really seems that their eyes is bigger than their belly, as we say in french. I just hope that they are not wasting their sparse ressources on projects that will never see the light of the day

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 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Not only that, but now FW is more expensive if you're not in the UK because burble burble conversion cots mumble mumble reasons.

Anyway, my fear with these announcements aren't that they're bad ideas - they all sound like heaps of fun - but more because I've heard it before. Hive Secundus was meant to be something Fanatic did back in the day. I seem to recall my homeboy Jervis talking about the big plans for the future of Necromunda.

Well here we are many years later, and GW just spent a year releasing a bunch of Gang War books that they made basically redundant by the end of that year, and with a whole host of cards they can't sell any more because they ran out. And now they're apparently going to do Hive Mortis, Hive Arcos, Hive Secundus, the Sump Seas, the Polar Scrap Spoils, the Bore Mines of the Great Fissure, the Navis Mortua (which sounds awesome!), The Eye of Selene and some vehicle based Mad Max-y Ash Wastes stuff? With the speed FW releases things? They haven't even finished releasing all the Bounty Hunters from the second fething Gang War book!

Yeah. Sure they are...



I'd love some shiny soruce books on these areas. I like the look of the new models but I have sooo very many and some would work as proxies anyway.

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"I will admit that some Primachs like Russ or Horus could have a chance against an unarmed 12 year old novice but, a full Battle Sister??!! One to one? In close combat? Perhaps three Primarchs fighting together... but just one Primarch?" da001

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When it comes to Outlander gangs etc... I thought it was pretty clear a year ago that those were years off. Their presentation last year seem to make it pretty apparent that they're focused on spiraling up and out of the under hives. Given their sort of road map and how they've directed their efforts, I think the only thing we shouldn't expect before Outlander gangs are the gangs that inhabit the orbital space platform.

Looking at whats coming out of this presentation, I think they're borrowing a bit from Kill-teams approach and really want more variation in battle grounds.
   
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Wasn't aware that Forgeworld was a bum pain for people ordering from outside the UK. That's a shame.

I concur that their track record in respect of concepts through to release is not great (although these two may still turn up one day).
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Still, we know Plastic Ambulls are coming...

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Not so much bum pain but they went to GW's standard pricing system. Likely by order from higher ups. Euro area isn't that badly affected depending on your usual order sizes but particularly australia have it tough. No wonder GW wanted FW to get rid of that pricing system.

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tneva82 wrote:
Euro area isn't that badly affected


...wait until March.

We're doing our best to feth that up too

   
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The delaque bits look great, as does most of the art. I like those jester looking people the most. It looks like they have plenty of room to see to it that the game has a bright future. But i'm most interested in more plastic kits, especially if the implication is all the gangs get a second sprue (which I wish they had done in the first place).

 
   
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Then we'd have three gangs released with two sprues each, and three gangs still to be released. This way's better.
   
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Forgeworld should be pretty simple in the US now.

They've been taking on plenty of sculptors for the specialist games, so worries about seeing stuff sound a bit misplaced. They need things for these guys to get on with.

A second round of plastics for the main gangs sounds like a good thing for the second year to me.
   
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 Flashman wrote:
tneva82 wrote:
Euro area isn't that badly affected


...wait until March.

We're doing our best to feth that up too


Hopefully all the titan weapons are out by then!

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 AndrewGPaul wrote:
Then we'd have three gangs released with two sprues each, and three gangs still to be released. This way's better.


I think he means both released at the same time..

Not two releases covering each gang, that’d take ages..
   
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Loving the new Necromunda stuff, my poor wallet.

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 Thargrim wrote:
The delaque bits look great, as does most of the art. I like those jester looking people the most. It looks like they have plenty of room to see to it that the game has a bright future. But i'm most interested in more plastic kits, especially if the implication is all the gangs get a second sprue (which I wish they had done in the first place).
I'm not really sure how Specialist Games gets to do plastic sprues, but it appears they are rather limited in what and when they can do it. It could be that a second sprue per gang would've just ended up delaying the release of the gangs even more, and it was already an excruciating wait as it was.

Personally, I'm hoping GW's production expansion will give Specialist Games more slots in the schedule. Necromunda, especially, is hamstrung by a stupidly slow rollout and the availability (and price) of ForgeWorld expansions - but they'd probably just give the slots to AT.
   
 
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