Just Tony wrote:If I wanted to play
LOTR I would actually play
LOTR. If I wanted to play Warmaster I'd ask my brother to euthanize me. Just kidding, but I don't want to play Warmaster. I want to play WFB, and having WFB suddenly become a reskin of some system I quite frankly have no interest in even ACCIDENTALLY playing would make TOW a non-starter.
This is a point I understand, for all its (many) faults when played with the right people Warhammer, pretty much any edition, was an entertaining way to spend a day, its never been very good as a game, but its been good enough to put up with the faults because the gameplay could be good and the background could get you hooked.
the result is any attempt to improve it is either limited to slight tinkering or just redrafting so its easier to read without changing the mechanics, as anything else changes what the game is to the point its something new entirely, now that may or may not be a good thing, but to then call it "warhammer" is at least slightly deceptive and will likely miss its target.
for me all they really need to do is dial the clock back a few editions to when you needed few enough models to get a half decent game it wasn't bank breaking to do it and when what was in the starter box actually let you properly play the game
if it had Bretonnians in a starter I'm in, even if I never play it, but I'd like the starter to provide, out of the box, two legal forces that actually work, the rest is gravy
