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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/02/11 00:06:20
Subject: CSM infiltrate assault nightmare 2k
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Prophetic Blood Angel Librarian
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Huron (with rhino squad)
29 cultists
9 chaos space marines
Flamer, power sword, MoN, bp & ccw
Rhino
20 chaos space marines*
Bp & ccw, 2 flamers, MoN
5 chaos space marines
Autocannon
10 Havocs*
Bp & ccw, bolters, 4 melta guns, MoN
Data slate:
Cypher*
10 chosen*
Bp & ccw, bolters, 4 melta guns
10 chosen*
Bp & ccw, bolters, 4 melta guns
10 chosen*
Bp & ccw, bolters, 4 melta guns
2k
The chosen can all infiltrate, cypher lets another squad infiltrate and huron lets d3 squad infiltrate, resulting in at least 5 infiltrating squads. I have starred those definitely infiltrating. The cultists will infiltrate if a 3+ is rolled. The autocannon squad sit on a home objective. Rhino squad ploughs up the field to support. Taken MoN on csm and havoc squads to help with the 1 turn of shooting the army will have to bear.
Opponent will have 4 10man close combat orientated squads with 4 melta in each, cypher and a 20man MoN ccb csm squad in their faces from the off, most likely also 29 cultists.
Obvious stand out counter is servo skulls. Will hopefully be in combat before flyers can really do anything...
What do you think? Scary in your face? Automatically Appended Next Post: If Huron and rhino start in reserve can they outflank even though huron does not have infiltrate himself?
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2014/02/11 00:07:47
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/02/11 00:25:10
Subject: Re:CSM infiltrate assault nightmare 2k
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Sword-Wielding Bloodletter of Khorne
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I really like this idea.
Looking at the BRB it says ICs without Infiltrate USR cannot join units that are infiltrating. Seems pretty cut and dry to me.
EDIT: crap you meant outflanking. Well, it doesn't say anything about it so I'd just consider it joining an IC to an outflank unit, and since he is part of the unit I don't see a problem.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2014/02/11 00:28:42
“Idleness is the enemy of the soul; and therefore the brethren ought to be employed in manual labor at certain times, at others, in devout reading.”
― St. Benedict of Nursia, The Rule of Saint Benedict
The Mendicants Polaris, Chaos Warband, Deviant Sect of Word Bearers |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/02/11 00:40:10
Subject: CSM infiltrate assault nightmare 2k
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Frightening Flamer of Tzeentch
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5 chaos space marines
Autocannon
You can't do this. CSM need ten models per unit before you can take a heavy weapon choice. You get to choose a special weapon at five models.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/02/11 00:43:48
Subject: Re:CSM infiltrate assault nightmare 2k
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Sword-Wielding Bloodletter of Khorne
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Yeah I overlooked that, those guys are gonna need to be Havocs, maybe that's what you meant?
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“Idleness is the enemy of the soul; and therefore the brethren ought to be employed in manual labor at certain times, at others, in devout reading.”
― St. Benedict of Nursia, The Rule of Saint Benedict
The Mendicants Polaris, Chaos Warband, Deviant Sect of Word Bearers |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/02/11 00:43:50
Subject: CSM infiltrate assault nightmare 2k
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Warp-Screaming Noise Marine
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You can't have a five man marine squad with an auto cannon. Was it a five man havoc squad with one big gun?
Whoops, beaten to it!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/02/11 04:31:11
Subject: CSM infiltrate assault nightmare 2k
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Tzeentch Aspiring Sorcerer Riding a Disc
Battle Barge Impossible Fortress
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ICs that are infantry or jump infantry can have a single Master of Deception thing applied to them and then they can join a big unit, giving it Infiltrate (if it's good enough for Coastal Assault using the Bay Area Open rules, its good enough for me in casual play)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/02/11 06:35:54
Subject: CSM infiltrate assault nightmare 2k
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Prophetic Blood Angel Librarian
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Thanks. I'll just swap them out for 10 cultists with autoguns for backfield scoring and with the extra 25pts, get a few melta bombs thrown around there. Nah not a havoc squad - I made the oversight as it is the first time I have properly looked at chaos since 3rd, oops.
I like that Interpretation of the Master of Deception rule. In fact RaW would seem to support that view anyway.
So on a 5+ the rhino squad may also infiltrate (outflank) with everyone else... brilliant!
What do you all think of the mass infiltration of tough assault units tactic?
Cheers for the replies! Automatically Appended Next Post: Ok so new list with the above in mind. Illegal autocannon squad changed to 10man cultist unit with autoguns. With spare 25pts +1 cultist for 30man blob, +1 MoN marine in rhino squad, +1 flamer for rhino squad. Huron goes with 20 man csm blob, power weapon goes from rhino squad to blob squad. Automatically Appended Next Post: Or may just drop all 4 flamers for 2 meltas in the rhino squad.
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This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2014/02/11 09:20:09
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