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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/03/20 16:45:56
Subject: Chapter Tactics for Chaos Legions
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Norn Queen
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Was messing about trying to come up with some Chapter Tactics for the Chaos Legions to make them a bit more fluffy and interesting on the battlefield.
What do you guys think?
Alpha Legion:
The Alpha Legion can ally with anyone from the BRB allies matrix except for Tyranids. In addition they treat all factions as battle brothers under this matrix.
All Alpha Legion infantry have the Hit and Run special rule.
Night Lords:
All Night Lord infantry and jump units have the Deep Strike special rule.
All Night Lord vehicles (including walkers) have the Fast special rule.
Word Bearers:
All Word Bearer units are Stubborn.
Word Bearers can choose up to 3 units of cultists under their troop choice allocation. These units do not use up a FOC selection.
World Eaters:
All WEs have the Furious Charge special rule.
All WE HQ/Elite choices have the Rage special rule.
Iron Warriors:
For every heavy choice taken under the FOC, IWs can choose a Fortification.
All IWs vehicles have the Armorbane special rule.
Deathguard:
All Deathguard units have the FNP (6+) special rule.
All Deathguard Bolters, Boltguns and Heavy Bolters have the Poisoned special rule.
Thousand Sons:
Enemy units cannot make Deny the Witch rolls against powers cast by TS psykers. In addition wargear such as psychic hoods, spirit stones, do not work against TS.
Thousand Son psykers can reroll failed psychic tests if they choose to.
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Dman137 wrote:
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By 1-irt: Still as long as Hissy keeps showing up this is one of the most entertaining threads ever.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/03/20 16:51:16
Subject: Chapter Tactics for Chaos Legions
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Confessor Of Sins
WA, USA
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Well...to be frank a lot of these are crazy overpowered.
Alpha Legion for one. Both of their traits are just bonkers insane.
Night Lords are really powerful, too.
Word Bearers main one is overpowered, and the secondary is just bizarre. I don't get it.
World Eaters are okay.
Iron Warriors have a huuuuuuuuuge potential for abuse.
Deathguard's main one is fine, but the secondary instantly breaks them (hi, we re-roll to wound against more or less everything and wound your big stuff on 4+).
Thousand Sons the main is just a flat out no. If Eldar can't do it, how the hell does a TS Sorcerer somehow deny all psychic defense?
Most of these are just very much the "cranked to 11" syndrome talking. I really recommend you look at the SM Tactics again. Theirs are mostly situation or one-use events that can be used. Yours are fundamentally game-changing from the outset. These need to be WAAYYYY tuned back.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/03/20 16:58:56
Subject: Chapter Tactics for Chaos Legions
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Pyro Pilot of a Triach Stalker
Somewhere over the rainbow, way up high
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Pfffffffffffffffffft
Just...no....
You need to dial this back 6-7 notches for them to be realistic.
The best chapter tactics for marines are one-time-use, or limited in scope.
Also, remember, just because SM have soemthing does NOT entitle CSM to have it automatically! They are different armies, with different books and rules!
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Sternguard though, those guys are all about kicking ass. They'd chew bubble gum as well, but bubble gum is heretical. Only tau chew gum. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/03/20 17:01:06
Subject: Chapter Tactics for Chaos Legions
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Norn Queen
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No worries, was a slow work day
Cheers for the feedback!
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Dman137 wrote:
goobs is all you guys will ever be
By 1-irt: Still as long as Hissy keeps showing up this is one of the most entertaining threads ever.
"Feelin' goods, good enough". |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/03/20 18:36:48
Subject: Re:Chapter Tactics for Chaos Legions
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!!Goffik Rocker!!
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There were a few discussions recently - just look them up.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/03/20 19:08:58
Subject: Chapter Tactics for Chaos Legions
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Hellacious Havoc
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i would suggest for night lords that everything has fear for starters and you can infiltrate d6 units of ur choice
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/03/21 08:43:38
Subject: Chapter Tactics for Chaos Legions
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Morphing Obliterator
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As others have said, some of your ideas are a little OP (for example as an Iron Warriors player, I would love mass fortifications and forgefiends with armourbane!). Without wishing to blow my own trumpet or hijack your thread, I also wrote my own rules for legion tactics. Some of these such as a few of the artefacts may be a little too much as well; but I did dial back some such as the life eater virus and shroud of midnight after some of the community gave their suggestions. Take a look at the link below if you want. http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/564240.page
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/03/21 09:33:10
Subject: Chapter Tactics for Chaos Legions
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Chaos Space Marine dedicated to Slaanesh
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the mark of Khorne would do nothing for the WE as you have it right now.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/03/21 09:46:28
Subject: Re:Chapter Tactics for Chaos Legions
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Sword-Wielding Bloodletter of Khorne
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Ah, the Khorne warband gets the shaft and has mostly useless tactics as per usual, maybe you should put in an application at GW
Seriously though, I think if CSM get something like Chapter Tactics, they should work differently so that CSM aren't just loyalist marines with spikes. Just spitballing here, but maybe to represent the selfish and individualistic nature of Chaos, CSM could have something like "Character Tactics". For example:
World Eaters Character Tactic, Scourge of Cowards:
Before deployment, choose one IC in your World Eaters detachment. That IC has Hatred (Psykers), and any unit the IC joins has Hatred (Psykers) as long as the IC is part of that unit. This IC also has +1 WS and +1 attack.
Thousand Sons Character Tactic, Warp Conduit:
Before deployment, choose one psyker in your Thousand Sons detachment. That psyker has +1 leadership when making psychic tests, and any enemy psyker within 18" has -1 leadership when making psychic tests. This psyker may expend warp charges to do something funky, I dunno.
etc. etc.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/03/26 01:22:43
Subject: Chapter Tactics for Chaos Legions
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Khorne Chosen Marine Riding a Juggernaut
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Sooo, you are giving Rage to Elites slots of a WE army, where usually all the units in a WE army allready has the MoK who gives rage...
So the only unit who gets a benefit for this is the dread...
Yup..., thats pretty much GW way of thinking ;p
@ZultanQ, yeah, then you play Vs Necrons or Taus...who have no Psykers whatsoever...
Not all armies have psykers in them.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/03/26 23:42:09
Subject: Re:Chapter Tactics for Chaos Legions
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Regular Dakkanaut
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https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B6PMT39WqBNncVcwT3AwVDYyclk/edit
Found this on 4chan, Apparently op needs help and his thread autosaged, if anyone has any ideas feel free to contributed on this thread, I figured I would post it to give everyone a feel for the objective behind applying rules to the Legions.
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