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TF: Smash Mouth 1850 pts


Primary Detachment: Salamanders
++HQ
Vulkan He’Stan 190pts
++Troop
T1 8 man Tactical Squad with a Drop Pod 172pts
War gear: Combi-Melta, Meltagun, Melta bomb
T2 10 Man Tactical Squad with a Drop Pod 210pts
War Gear: Combi-Flamer, Meltagun, Multi-Melta, melta bomb
T3 10 Man Tactical Squad with a Drop Pod 200pts
War Gear: Combi-Flamer, Flamer, Multi-Melta
++Elite
Dreadnought with a Drop Pod 145pts
War Gear: Dreadnought close combat are with Heavy Flamer, Multi-melta
Dreadnought with a Drop Pod 145pts
War Gear: Dreadnought close combat are with Heavy Flamer, Multi-melta
++Heavy Support
HS1 Thunderfire Cannon 100pts


Allied Detachment- Imperial Fist
++HQ
Chapter Master 230pts
War Gear: Artificer Armor, Shield Eternal, Relic Blade

++Troop
T1 6 Man Tactical Squad with a Drop Pod 144pts
War Gear: Combi-Plasma, Plasmagun

++ Heavy Support
HS3 5 Man Devastator Squad 150pts
War Gear: Lascannon x4

Inquisition Detachment
++HQ
Ordos Xeno Inquisitor 64pts
War Gear: Servo Skulls x3, Psyker Level 1
Psychic Power: Roll on Divination

++ Fortification
Aegis Defense Line 100 pts
Quad Gun

I like the list a lot. I think you should go all melta in Vulkan's detachment. I feel that I'm always just scraping for one more pen on a vehicle on the drop and 3 melta shots usually gets the job done. Plus, combat squadding everything means you'll have plenty of bolter fire and you can screen the meltas with them too.

Some things to try that are really nice with Vulkan are Legion of the Damned (all melta with ignores cover) which just drop any vehicle for 155 points.. And the command squad. I like Vulkan in a pod with 4 flamer/storm shield vets and an apothecary.. thats one immovable infantry wiping unit! It's a bit pricy but probably the most fun unit I've run with him in a list lol!

If you can squeeze melta bombs in on all the sgts that would be good for MCs that charge you after you drop.

Other than that, I think the list looks really good.

Thanks...
I had Vulkan riding in the 9 man pod and i was thinking of dropping the scouts and the dread for a command squad...
and i relize now i forgot mention how everything fits together

Vulkan rides in the 9 man tact drop pod
the Imperial fist captian is my star and tar... i see his squad as just giving him extra wounds
the Imperial fist devs sit behind the Aegis/ quad gun killin tanks/flyers/ and anything i want to over kill while getting buffed by Mr Inquisitor
the scouts do what scouts do and camp like a noob in CoD
the Thunderfire cannons mop up mobs and those damn pathfinders
everyone else comes down like a flamming hammer

Yeah, I gotcha. The list is nice.

If you can convert that dreadnought & scouts into a command squad it would be awesome for sure. I also think you should exchange the relic blade for a power fist since you can't get another attack out of the sword anyway while holding the shield eternal. You'll live to get your initiative 1 AP2 hits in which will be a bigger threat.

Version 2...


Primary Detachment: Salamanders
++HQ
Vulkan He’Stan 190pts
-- Command Squad with a Drop Pod 210pts
War Gear: Apothecary, Flamers x4, Storm Shield x4
++Troop
T1 10 man Tactical Squad with a Drop Pod 205pts
War gear: Combi-Flamer, Meltagun, Multi-Melta
T2 10 Man Tactical Squad with a Drop Pod 200pts
War Gear: Combi-Melta, Flamer, Multi-Melta
T3 10 Man Tactical Squad with a Drop Pod 200pts
War Gear: Combi-Melta, Flamer, Multi-Melta

++Heavy Support
HS1 Thunderfire Cannon 100pts
HS2 Thunderfire Cannon 100pts



Allied Detachment- Imperial Fist
++HQ
Company Commander 185pts
War Gear: Artificer Armor, Shield Eternal, Relic Blade

++Troop
T1 6 Man Tactical Squad with a Drop Pod 144pts
War Gear: Combi-Plasma, Plasmagun

++ Heavy Support
HS3 6 Man Devastator Squad 150pts
War Gear: Lascannon x4

Inquisition Detachment
++HQ
Ordos Xeno Inquisitor 64pts
War Gear: Servo Skulls x3, Psyker Level 1
Psychic Power: Roll on Divination

++ Fortification
Aegis Defense Line 100 pts
Quad Gun

Relic Blades are pretty bad. I'd run a Thunder Hammer

The second list seems better to me. The only things I'd change now are rearranging the weapons in your tac squads so all the meltas are together, and all the flamers are together. I wouldn't mix them up in the same unit because it decreases their efficiency.

Also I'd still swap the relic blade for a power fist since it's the same points cost.

Looks good!

Ive run them that way but i find that a mix and combat squaddign them allows me to pop the tramsports and then roast the nuts inside...

What's your thinking behind a relic blade over something like a thunder hammer?

The relic blade is +2 to strength AP3 but still allows you to hit at base Int.... the power fist are x2 strenght and AP2 BUT you strike at Int 1... im not going to allow a mob strike first (good 'ol math hammer) and it also gives me a bit of anti armour against AV 11

I'd rather take a power maul over a Relic Blade.

Play tested it against a mech AM list and owned shop with the first list... tossing 3 full drop pods in his face was awesome... took a good bit of casualties but that's expected... twin thunderfire was a tad overkill...

Played a couple matches in 7th edition and rally loving the main list... the imperial fist tank hunters utterly destroyed a twin knight list by turn 3... and against a hoard list the flamers "cleansed" the board... does anyone have any suggestions...
on a side note it would be awesome if i could get my orks to run this smooth...

The Biggest issue i have are the TFC in the list. I love them so dont get me wrong on there effectiveness. However i found running TFC's with drop pod marines i was risking my guys to my own blast templates and it became annoying in many cases. The only time i really ran them was when i ran Drop pod Ironclads because they were immune to the blast.

might want to consider going with 2 flamer assault squads in Pods. making for a total of 7. plus while not as eefective vs hoards 4 more flamers add to your killing ability.