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https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/184938819/miniature-ice-age-mammal-adventure-set


28mm resin prehistoric mammals. $80.00 gets you all the critters pictured. Individual animal pledges are available as well.



At this point, even at $15.00 you will be getting your pick of one of the original 8 choices, plus seven stretch goals (for free): 4 different terror birds, the cave lion, and a mammoth rat.


Samples of the currently sculpted freebies:



$125 gets you near 40 figures, with doubles on a bunch of the larger animals. Here's all the current stretch goals they have pictures of. There's some missing even!

Are the stretch goals free?

Or are they going to be paid add-ons?

No kickstarter link? For shame

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/184938819/miniature-ice-age-mammal-adventure-set

Not sure.

I went ahead and asked.

I want to know how they're going to base these figures as well.

They seem to not want to say if the stretch goals are free or not...

If they are, I'm in.

EDIT: So they're free at "certain levels". Ok, which levels? Terror Bird was also stated as being an add-on, so likely the more popular ones will be paid and the lesser known ones will be the freebies...

I'm hesitant.

Well, the very highest pledge level specifically states that it's for two copies of all models, including basic and epic stretch goals.

Depending on what is included at different levels, splitting that pledge with someone (so $112.50 apiece) could be the most cost effective way to go. That's only if this does well and starts unlocking stretch goals, though... personally I need to see a bit more first.

Yeah, looks like they edited the levels to seemingly state everything from "the box set" and above gets all the stretch goals.

Except the early bird box set, which I'm assuming they couldn't edit as it has backers already...

I hear you.

I really would like to see (at the very minimum) sculpts or renders of each of the animals before the campaign is done. At least the mammoth is being done by hand, so we can see how that will turn out. Plus it would be nice to see how they stack up to other games' figures.

They've got a lot of ambition, but unfortunately ambition only gets you so far on Kickstarter, especially with miniatures. At some point or another, you gotta show the goods if you really want people's money- especially with a new and unknown company.

I'd like to see some comparison pics next to other 28mm minis too. Their claims of "as big as a transport for warhammer or hordes" leaves it open to a lot of interpretation, especially considering hordes doesn't have transports, unless they mean "mounts"...

Also, the cartoony art is a bit weird. I'd prefer it to err on the side of realism.

I prefer things like this to be more realistic personally, especially if sure as encounters. An animal companion, sure why not? Are there pictures of any other sculpts? If they make them more realistic I'll gladly jump aboard, but as it stands now I may pass. I don't like kickstarters with just art. I like to see at least a couple sculpts first.

Er... half of them aren't even remotely "Ice Age Mammals". And it's Uintatherium.

 Dryaktylus wrote:
Er... half of them aren't even remotely "Ice Age Mammals". And it's Uintatherium.

Are not all the creatures in the OP not mammals? Or is the issue "ice-age"? If so, it's just a common term that more people identify with than Cenozoic Era or Pleistocene.


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Also of note, at the bottom of the kickstarter page there are 3D models of some of the creatures(I would link but am currently mobile-only). It would appear that the Smilodon at least is keeping a more "cartoony" aesthetic.

I'm with you guys in not wanting to commit money to just art, especially for an unknown company, as unfortunate as that may be (for them).

Hopefully we'll see more information from the creator in the near future.

 Sinful Hero wrote:

 Dryaktylus wrote:
Er... half of them aren't even remotely "Ice Age Mammals". And it's Uintatherium.

Are not all the creatures in the OP not mammals? Or is the issue "ice-age"? If so, it's just a common term that more people identify with than Cenozoic Era or Pleistocene.

Sure, they're mammals, but several are from the Tertiary (or Palaeogene and early Neogene). And "Ice Age" as synonyme for the whole Cenozoic is just... well, okay, I studied this stuff, sorry.

 Dryaktylus wrote:

 Sinful Hero wrote:

 Dryaktylus wrote:
Er... half of them aren't even remotely "Ice Age Mammals". And it's Uintatherium.

Are not all the creatures in the OP not mammals? Or is the issue "ice-age"? If so, it's just a common term that more people identify with than Cenozoic Era or Pleistocene.

Sure, they're mammals, but several are from the Tertiary (or Palaeogene and early Neogene). And "Ice Age" as synonyme for the whole Cenozoic is just... well, okay, I studied this stuff, sorry.

Yeah, I used to be pretty big into it myself(more into Mesozoic really), but the kickstarter is just for the common layman. This aren't going to be museum quality pieces, and I doubt they're expecting quite a few paleontology buffs(not that I did anything more than very casual study in my free time).

So I sort of forgot to update this. A week to go, funded, more actual sculpts forthcoming. Everything is supposed to be hand sculpted for purposes of this KS.

Every pledge is getting one of these guys now.


And then you also get this guy as well, as long as you're pledging for an actual figure.


Plus when the total hits 7000 they will be including this cave lion sculpt for all pledgers as well.


I believe there will be a third free bird as well.



And here's some more samples of sculpts they are working on.




Will get the 1st post cleaned up a bit.

I can't think of a use for these, but by the Seven Hells I want them!

Maybe as proxies for things in Arc Worlde (if they ever fecking release it...)?!

I'm still turned off by the cartoony look of these models. If only they went for a more realistic approach...

I'm curious what they're going to do with the Song of Blades and Heroes' designer. They've got him tapped for either their Doggerland game, or the sea monsters thing they're planning on doing in July or August, or some sort of gnome skirmish game, or something with these animals.

The Smilodon or Andrewsarchus are the ones I'm really interested in. I was trying to put together a lion themed SoBH warband as it was, and outside of my giant Mierce Fomorian cat, there aren't a lot of other options I've liked in way of big prehistoric hunting cats.

Hopefully we'll get to see sculpts of those soon.

So over the last week or so, this has seen a lot of action.

Their epic stretch goals were hit, which were for every who pledged over $125. Then they decided to double a bunch of those. Then they added in a pile of figures.

Latest unlocks are the original 8 in the box, cave bear, the cave hyena, the giant ground sloth, a dinofelis, a dire wolf, an archaeotherium, a megistotherium, an embolotherium, a moetherium, a glyptodon, a gigantopithecus, an irish elk, and if things keep going like they are, a paraceratherium (a super huge land animal).

That's a lot of stuff.

This one is still probably a bit of a crap shoot- a lot of stuff for a little bit of money. I know the company is doing this primarily to get their name out their and generate a bit of publicity.

We'll see how things turn out.

I read the title of this topic "8 figures for 15$" and clicked immediately since that would really be a bargain!
Misleading title however. It should read "1 figure for 15$". Or am I missing something...?

Stretch goals my friend, stretch goals.

4 terror birds of various sizes, a cave lion, a simurgh, and a mammoth rat.

Plus whichever of the original 8 animals you choose.

All for 15. You pick one, and get seven extra strech goals of varying shapes and sizes = 8 figures.


*edited the topic title for a bit more clarification.

Got it!

Looks like ADW is starting another KS in July. I'm kinda iffy about new companies that start a KS soon after their first one, and have enough miniatures as it is. I didn't like a few things about their presentation during their KS, I couldn't find enough information about the people behind the project to back the project, but I've been wrong before.

ADW Games and Game Designer Andrea Sfiligoi announce that they are bringing “Band of Gnomes”, a non-lethal miniature skirmish game full of fast-paced trickery, illusion, summoning, entrapment, odd magic, queer terrain, golems and elementals, to Kickstarter on July 21, 2014.

Rules for “Band of Gnomes” are being written by Andrea Sfiligoi, the Award-winning game designer behind Songs of Blades and Heroes, Of Gods And Mortals and Fistful of Kung Fu.

“We have chosen this as out next project because it is unique in format and does not compete with anything on the market,” says S.E. Lantry, the primary writer for ADW Games. “Plus, we have a lot of cool, surprising expansions already mapped out.”

Band of Gnomes will be set in ADW’s fantasy version of Doggerland, based on the lost landmass in the North Sea that joined Great Britain and Europe, during and after the last Ice Age.

Band of Gnomes will include rules for Ice Age Mammals miniatures in the Band of Gnomes Core Rule Book. The Core Set will include two Gnome factions, The Lighted Forest and The UnderMountain, and will include rules for terrain and Band of Gnomes battlemap-based games (Terrain and Battlemaps sold separately).

Tabletop Gaming: http://www.tabletopgamingnews.com/2014/07/09/91178/

 highlord tamburlaine wrote:
Stretch goals my friend, stretch goals.

4 terror birds of various sizes, a cave lion, a simurgh, and a mammoth rat.

Plus whichever of the original 8 animals you choose.

All for 15. You pick one, and get seven extra strech goals of varying shapes and sizes = 8 figures.


*edited the topic title for a bit more clarification.

That seems really sketchy / too good to be true...

The company said they ran this KS as a bit of a loss leader, to get their name out their, all that jazz.

I agree, it was a crazy ridiculously good deal, far too good to be true.

I didn't put in for much, so we'll see what delivers in the end. The fact that a large portion of sculpts were never shown doesn't fill me with much confidence either.

I hope they find an audience for their Gnomes game. Not a fan of gnomes myself, but I do certainly love Sfiligoi's rulesets.

MIght want to contact one of the sculptors for the Ice Age campaign for their thoughts on ACW. I wrote to AS and he said he's not being paid upfront for his work, but from royalties et al. from the KS etc.

http://forum.reapermini.com/index.php?/topic/55637-15mm-gnomes/page-2#entry913786

That's not necessarily a bad thing,

Fenris Games did the same for Cthulhu Wars, paying for the sculpting up front with Green Eye Games who ran the KS paying them off once the KS money came in

If the KS had gone badly they'd have had problems, but they believed in the project and were willing to take that chance

(but as with all things KS every potential backer has to decide how much 'risk' they are willing to take)

As I understand it, one of the sculptors for the Ice Age Miniatures got stiffed by ACW, and ACW may be a scam. I've asked the sculptor to post on Dakka about this.

ced1106 wrote:
As I understand it, one of the sculptors for the Ice Age Miniatures got stiffed by ACW, and ACW may be a scam. I've asked the sculptor to post on Dakka about this.

I think you mean ADW?