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Everyone lets wait until they release an initial sketch before we start speculating on how you think they are moving away from an idea or something. If the previews turn out crap, then oh well, go for gold on the complaining. But until then, wait for the sketches or preview sculpts.


As for pre-order honors, I doubt that they actually fully intend everyone who pre-ordered to follow through. If they get a quarter they'll probably make a profit and call it good. If the sculpts are good and solid, they'll probably sell a lot.

only 15 sets left, 1.5%

Still no pics.

After beating Killzone 2, and looking at the prices for Deathkorps models, I think I'm willing to try a healthy middle ground here for my IG army, also usable for several other games like the upcoming AE-Bounty and Vor 2.0.

I just ordered the last 15 sprues needed. However, they'll need to be up to my standards before I buy them. But, at least the pre-order lets me get my voice in.

Looking at the other models they've made I know what I'm getting. They use ABS plastic by the looks of it, same stuff that the old mongoose Starship Troopers game used. I know from experience that these paint up pretty well despite not having the same amount of detail as other sculpts and plastic types.

I also really like their system/concept for what they manufacture. It's a great meld of internet community building, a bit of marketing, and an easier way to gauge market interest before producing costly models.

I do think their sculpt, casting, and maybe art quality could be better, I wouldn't mind seeing an option for higher quality stuff, but at a higher price.

Apparently they are in the process of sculpting and will have screenshots available in the next 7 days or so.

It was popular enough that they opened up preorders again to allow for up to 2000 for this particular project.

Lets hope the screenies make us proud

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Very exiting!

Pics or it didn't happen.

We have some extremely early and rough renders now.

They are asking for feedback and changes
Comments on these can be made here: http://wargamesfactory.lefora.com/2009/01/29/sci-fi-greatcoat-infantry/page1/



This one is very DKoKish



really not a fan of the helmet here, but if they changed the coat and helmet to closer to the first render, this would be very very cool.

The head looks ass, the rest looks okay. Personally I'd go without the whole nazis in space look just this once.

the heads on the 2nd ones look gak, other than that they should be pretty good for traitor guard

the 1st ones look pretty good
just waiting to see a standard machine gun / shotgun kombi wep on em now.
instant hellghast

this news probably deserves a new thread.

Personally I like the less-techy top guy.

The bottom guy is more of a generic high-tech trooper.

The bottom one looks like gak. Hope they produce the top one.

I'd like to see a pic of the second render with the first ones head. I think it has promise, I like the armor if it was adjusted a bit, and would help differentiate the models from the DKoK.

I think the second one is more interesting in an aeshtetic sense, the first one is just too Nazis-in-space for me. Both have promise, the second one's gaskmask/helmet heads aren't quite to my taste, but I don't like the plain Stahlhelm + gas mask combo either.

With a seperate helmet on top, that second version would make a nice stormtrooper.

I think more people are looking for something like the first one though. I imagine they'll make it look better than that though, the belt seems to be hovering around his waist and his waist is too low. The helmet is also wrong, it needs a bigger peak at the front and should be much bigger overall. The high tech mask doesn't fit in well with the rest of the uniform either, they should have kept with the old style and gone with a gasmask with a big tube at the front.
I think they're been influenced by the anime about the Jin Roh, all they're missing is the MG-34.

Good call on the belt, that is a LOT low. It should be up closer to his elbows, not his hands. Likewise on the peak in front, there should be almost a little shade brim on the front of the helmet.
Possibly little shoulder plates would be cool too. I don't mind the techiness of the gas mask too much, though a lower tech look would probably be an improvement.

And Noble713, that's exactly what I am talking about. The Euro Ready Position in that picture is not the sort of position someone is in when they expect to be shot at in the next 3 minutes. A low ready or high ready would be much more appropriate for someone in an active combat zone, as most 40k figures are considering the entire engagement is a very short amount of time.
Granted, I could see the use for some of the other poses for say command squads, or the occaisional trooper on sentry duty, but the ratio seems to be the opposite of what it should be, with many guys putzing around and only a few ready to fight. Just an observation.

I'm not keen on the German helmet or the pinned back coat. Where's that Jes Goodwin pic of the Guardsman marching through the snow? That's what I want.

That or padded coats like the Brettonian men at arms. Heads are the least important part as the're the most easily replaced.

I like them. I'm not madly in love with any of them, but they look nice. I'd like to see what they're doing for weapons though.

See, I'm not so worried about the heads or the arms - you can easily drop a pair of Cadian arms onto them for what you need. I'm more concerned with seeing them in different poses. Right now, they just look like Kenner Star Wars figures. I feel like the first one looks kind of frumpy - not a whole lot of shape to the torso. The second one looks too alien for my taste - kinda Dark Eldar-y, actually.

Personally, though, I could see using the legs from the top one and combine it with Cadian torsos and arms, throw a Pig Iron head on top and call it good!

I prefer the 2nd one, it's more generic use sci-fi.

If I wanted DKoK, I'd buy them.




Oh wait, I did.

I would like a blend of the two. The first is too bland. The second looks like he's wearing overstylized hockey pads, not to mention that his "chest plate" doesn't cover his chest while reducing the range of motion by covering his abdomen.

I would go with one because I'll take a little drab over overdetailed any day, as it's easy to add detail, a pain to take it away. Also there has been questions regarding the ability of the plastic Wargames Factory uses in their models to retain details, so a plainer model would be better than a detailed model whose details look like crap.

For what it's worth (not a lot), the WGF zombies look nicer painted than they ever did either in renders or on the sprue.

I'd definitely take the first one. The only thing I don't like is the pinned-back coat.

The second looks *terrible* IMO, like he borrowed some armor plates from a Chaos Marine or Dark Eldar warrior and strapped them onto his trench coat. As low as that breastplate is attached, if he bent over at the waist he'd crush the family jewels.

And what are those ridges on the boots for?

Platuan4th wrote:If I wanted DKoK, I'd buy them.

I think a substantial portion of the people trying to get plastic greatcoat infantry from the Wargames Factory are folks who are unable/unwilling to buy DKoK from Forgeworld. I know there's no way in Hell I'm paying $5/piece for rank & file infantry. So if you love the style but hate the price, what do you do? Get someone else to produce a rough approximation for far cheaper.

Noble713 wrote:I think a substantial portion of the people trying to get plastic greatcoat infantry from the Wargames Factory are folks who are unable/unwilling to buy DKoK from Forgeworld. I know there's no way in Hell I'm paying $5/piece for rank & file infantry. So if you love the style but hate the price, what do you do? Get someone else to produce a rough approximation for far cheaper.

I think "substantial portion" is an understatement. The project has been about getting ersatz Death Korps from day one. As someone who can't afford DK, I would much rather see WGF do something less specifically 40k, but I believe this particular venture will sink or swim based on how well/badly the minis off the sprue counterfeit GW aesthetics.

I like the second one if you put the 1st ones head on it and remove the whole chest peice thing. I really like the legs and arms of the 2nd one.

Here's some 'shoops someone did of the 2nd one with the 1st ones head and some changes to the armor





And a more subdued armor type

You can subdue that armor all you like, but unless it's designed so it can bend at the waist, you're gonna smush your gribblies! The subdued look is better, but there's still the problem of the codpiece that is over and above where a codpiece should actually go. That 'v'-shaped top to it is just unwearable!

At any rate, these are concept art, nothing more. If they havent even decided whether they want to do futurist stormtroopers or space nazis, I doubt they're wedded to a specific design of body armor either.