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CT GAMER wrote:
em_en_oh_pee wrote:Seriously, go to your FLGS. I am getting 30%, because I am paying cash and doing a $700+ order. Deals are there, just don't be shy. Be respectful, but be honest with the owner and you should be good.

Most people don't do $700 orders.
Here is my situation:
It is a 40 minute drive to the closest store to me assuming weather/traffic cooperate. Thats eighty minutes of time roundtrip just in travelling. Now tack on gas.
Then i get to pay full retail.
That is assuming that they have what i want. Yes I can call, but half the time the person answering doesn't know the game and says something similar to "you had better come in and talk to one of the gamer dudes", or "can you call back and talk to one of the gamer dudes".
If I need to make a phone call I'm gonna make one to my On-line retailer of choice, get a discount, and have it on my doorstep next day.
As for the supposed advantage of having "80 gamers" to play with. Half the guys hanging at my lgs are tools, the other half smell like ass and the store doesn't have enough room/tables to accommodate us all anyways so i drive all that way to stand around and wait for a table with half-assed terrain.
No contest...
Then it doesn't sound like gaming at your store would work for you. I'm not saying you should HAVE to under all circumstances support the nearest store to you! 40 minutes isn't that bad of a drive (though I live in a rural state and everything seems to be 30-60 minutes away), but if the people operating it are ignorant of their products and the local gaming population is unpleasant, then there isn't really a reason to go there for poor service and an unpleasant time.

My concern is that many gamers who enjoy their shops, frequent them, the owner puts effort into maintaining the shop, providing for their customers by at least knowing the names and release dates for products, helps with selection and tips on painting, is enjoyable to be around, and generally just trying to make for a good shop, are struggling to make pennies. Mainly because the customers don't understand that buying a couple of blisters or their paint at a shop is not enough to keep the place open while they are doing their major ordering online.

JohnHwangDD wrote:One nice thing for the store is that they don't have to take the MO business, and they can place conditions to make it worth their while (e.g. prepay, minimum order).
If they're doing good for the month, they can pass.
If not, an extra $300 - $500 order isn't a bad thing, even if it's at 30% off.
I don't think you are understanding the problem, nor perhaps you want to. Business is a bit more complicated, especially when your clients are fickle, inconsistent, and unpredictable. If they can figure out how/when they will get the most savings, they will wait.

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Oh, I understand the situation.

I just don't think it's any sort of problem.

   
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Gainesville, Florida

Checkout wayland games in the uk they had a 3 for 119 deal running called the Flight of the Valkyries bundle. It's probably the best deal for 9 shipped.

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My concern is that many gamers who enjoy their shops, frequent them, the owner puts effort into maintaining the shop, providing for their customers by at least knowing the names and release dates for products, helps with selection and tips on painting, is enjoyable to be around, and generally just trying to make for a good shop, are struggling to make pennies. Mainly because the customers don't understand that buying a couple of blisters or their paint at a shop is not enough to keep the place open while they are doing their major ordering online.


A little background: I owned a store. I am well aware from first hand experience that it is a very difficult living, especially in this day and age. The problem you describe is real. However as I said before the times are changing. Technology will continue to advance. The days of the brick and mortar game store are numbered. It is becoming an archaic business model. Sad but 100% true.

Many store owners and players are deluding themselves about the viability of the lgs.




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CT GAMER wrote:
My concern is that many gamers who enjoy their shops, frequent them, the owner puts effort into maintaining the shop, providing for their customers by at least knowing the names and release dates for products, helps with selection and tips on painting, is enjoyable to be around, and generally just trying to make for a good shop, are struggling to make pennies. Mainly because the customers don't understand that buying a couple of blisters or their paint at a shop is not enough to keep the place open while they are doing their major ordering online.
A little background: I owned a store. I am well aware from first hand experience that it is a very difficult living, especially in this day and age. The problem you describe is real. However as I said before the times are changing. Technology will continue to advance. The days of the brick and mortar game store are numbered. It is becoming an archaic business model. Sad but 100% true.
Many store owners and players are deluding themselves about the viability of the lgs.
Well I would disagree with you here because there are many very successful shops in the world that will continue to be. Problem is volume and willingness for customers to become loyal (I know, can not be made part of a business model) and recognising the fact that if they don't buy from the shop they will have no where to game, which is pretty much the only reason our shop is staying open. Essentially, a number of us (15-25) are paying the "admittance" fees of the rest of the customers, we are investing in the shop to be our place to game. If our shop wasn't open, there would be at least 70 people who wouldn't be gaming anymore, and I think the vast majority of gamers are that way. The way GW is run, I don't think it would survive the closing of stores, and given their past vicious history of being sore losers, they will covet their licenses and either take them to their graves, or pawn them to another company. Historically, when that happens, quality on all levels plummits, just getting models will become difficult, and don't expect anything in the way of decent new codices.

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Skinnattittar wrote:
CT GAMER wrote:
My concern is that many gamers who enjoy their shops, frequent them, the owner puts effort into maintaining the shop, providing for their customers by at least knowing the names and release dates for products, helps with selection and tips on painting, is enjoyable to be around, and generally just trying to make for a good shop, are struggling to make pennies. Mainly because the customers don't understand that buying a couple of blisters or their paint at a shop is not enough to keep the place open while they are doing their major ordering online.
A little background: I owned a store. I am well aware from first hand experience that it is a very difficult living, especially in this day and age. The problem you describe is real. However as I said before the times are changing. Technology will continue to advance. The days of the brick and mortar game store are numbered. It is becoming an archaic business model. Sad but 100% true.
Many store owners and players are deluding themselves about the viability of the lgs.
Well I would disagree with you here because there are many very successful shops in the world that will continue to be. Problem is volume and willingness for customers to become loyal (I know, can not be made part of a business model) and recognising the fact that if they don't buy from the shop they will have no where to game, which is pretty much the only reason our shop is staying open. Essentially, a number of us (15-25) are paying the "admittance" fees of the rest of the customers, we are investing in the shop to be our place to game. If our shop wasn't open, there would be at least 70 people who wouldn't be gaming anymore, and I think the vast majority of gamers are that way. The way GW is run, I don't think it would survive the closing of stores, and given their past vicious history of being sore losers, they will covet their licenses and either take them to their graves, or pawn them to another company. Historically, when that happens, quality on all levels plummits, just getting models will become difficult, and don't expect anything in the way of decent new codices.


It is a fallacy that those 70 people couldn't game without a store. The fact is most gamers are lazy and unorganized and utilize in-store gaming because it is convenient (in some ways), someone else is doing the organizing for them and because the owner foots the bill for space, terrain, electricity, etc., etc.

My store was the most dedicated lgs in the city it was in. We had 20-30 people show up on multiple game nights that went into the wee hours of the morning. We ran leagues, tournaments and campaigns on a regular basis. We were the hub of gaming. When my store closed no one stepped up to to fill the void from a retail perspective. By your statement gaming should have died in that city. Instead the gaming community organized to gaming clubs that continue to grow and function tot his day some four years later. Gaming is NOT dependent on an LGS to survive. IF gamers take it on themselves to organize and are willing to drop a little sweat, effort and resources to build a gaming community. Most gamers are lazy and expect an lgs to do it for them. When a store closes those lazy gamers get left behind. That is not always a bad thing for the communtiy as a whole.

A number of years back I left that community and moved to my present one. The LGs options currently are subpar a I have indicated in previous posts. Myself and a few friends started a private gaming club and it is going on it's third year, growing with quality memebrs, and we have a better selection of terrain and tables then most of the lgs around. The LGS does not serve our needs, and we do not need it to grow gaming.

People often buy in to the oft recited "DOOM" mentality of "supprot your lgs or else". It is mostly hype and internet drama.




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