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that's the problem and the solution,

all 40K special charectors are immortal(at least until the next codex comes out) so you can kill him one googolpex diffirent ways and then get up the next morning and do it all over again.

Iron Priest wrote:
I'm not sure if I quite get it. Perhaps a diagram or flowchart is in order?

I think a flowchart would break posting guidelines and I know a diagram would.

As for dominating Lucius, if it's possible to kill him then surely it's possible to render him unconscious or immobile long enough to put him in stasis. Once there he cannot call on his daemonic mates, use his sonic shriek or anything else. 40k is full of examples of C'Tan, Necrontyr, Daemons being put on ice in one form or another. Granted they get freed from time to time but the technology is there.

Despite what happens on the table top, Lucius could never fall to a Necron, or even your basic Grey knight. He is just too skilled.

What about 100 necrons, or 10-20 grey knights?

An intelligent skilled fighter will never allow themselves to get swamped.

These people fight on battlefield scale fights, its not gang thumping in a back alley where you walk alone. Those 100 Necrons or 10-20 GKs will also have to deal with Lucius's 10-20 Chosen as well. Here while his subordanants are taking care of the masses of the nameless, he is free to seek out the champion of the other side and have a one on one duel. Something like that.

Again, tabletop actions and situations don't actually happen when your dealing with epic name individuals (regardless of 40K faction). You will never see Magnus Calgar or Ragnar Blackmane getting taken down by swarms of gaunts or ork boys either.

You should do it just to see how long he would last?

Jayden63 wrote:
he is free to seek out the champion of the other side and have a one on one duel. Something like that.

So if/when the Necron lord or GKGM, who are both equally emotionless, take him out?

I think a showdown between Brother Captain Stern and Lucius is in order.


Stern has come close to killing Abbadon so he coulod do it.

What if the killer, for whatever reason, had no soul? Also, what would happen to someone with the Pariah gene?

Truth be told. Lucius is most likely aware of these weaknesses and prudently avoids such situations. but the what ifs are fun to talk about.

I think if someone managed to make him kill himself like make him trip and die that would kill him for sure.

Jayden63 wrote:An intelligent skilled fighter will never allow themselves to get swamped.

Because war ALWAYS goes according to plan.

Touche

Grey Templar wrote:I think a showdown between Brother Captain Stern and Lucius is in order.


Stern has come close to killing Abbadon so he coulod do it.

Sturm came close? I shudder at the one-sidedness of 40k fluff sometimes, I don't think anyone living now short of a primarch or something like that could go even with Abaddon.

Anyway, back on topic...Lucius could be killed by any number of things, but one would think he would be smart enough to avoid such things

What if lucius commited suicide for some highly unlikily reason and felt pride at doing it?

he would become a face in his own armor? That would be funny. Or he could have his armor become a face in his armor....and im going to stop now before thinking about that threatens my sanity

If you kill him with a battle cannon.

He will turn into the tank and be a giant.

Shadowbrand wrote:If you kill him with a battle cannon.

He will turn into the tank and be a giant.

A tank cant feel pride! He would become the tank gunner if the gunner felt pride

Simple fact is you would not be able to (fluff wise ) kill luciious with a cannon or lascannon or anything inanimate like that. He could only be killed by another person/alien/ etc

The fluff makes no sense. Sounds good when you first hear it, but on closer inspection there are too many loopholes!

Deathbot wrote:

Iron Priest wrote:

Deathbot wrote:

Nurglitch wrote:I figure he'd say stuff like Sid Haig does in The Devil's Rejects:

"If you're gonna start the killing, you best start it right here. Make sure I'm all the way dead, because I'll come back and make you my bitch!"

GGGGGGGGAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!

OK, I'll try to make it simpler:

He serves the god of perversion, depravity, and excess. He sticks a lash up someone's "rear armor". Think about it.

I'm not sure if I quite get it. Perhaps a diagram or flowchart is in order?

The stupid makes my head hurt. I give up.

What Iron Priest wrote was something we call sarcasm. Look it up, why don't ya?

I think it's less of an unchanging rule, and more of a "Slaanesh tries to make it this way".

Mekboy wrote:

Deathbot wrote:

Iron Priest wrote:

Deathbot wrote:

Nurglitch wrote:I figure he'd say stuff like Sid Haig does in The Devil's Rejects:

"If you're gonna start the killing, you best start it right here. Make sure I'm all the way dead, because I'll come back and make you my bitch!"

GGGGGGGGAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!

OK, I'll try to make it simpler:

He serves the god of perversion, depravity, and excess. He sticks a lash up someone's "rear armor". Think about it.

I'm not sure if I quite get it. Perhaps a diagram or flowchart is in order?

The stupid makes my head hurt. I give up.

What Iron Priest wrote was something we call sarcasm. Look it up, why don't ya?

Wot are you guys going on about?

Here is the lucius flowchart, professionally done.

Eldar ships have a spirit stone, which is a collection of souls that run them. If lucius is blown up by an eldar ship, does he take over all their souls? Becoming the ship? Would you suddenly have a ship beating nid vessesls at hand to hand?

And what if Lucius is killed by something stronger, like say a wraithlord. Would the soul become his? And he get his old armor, or would he become a wraithlord. I cant imagine a lucius wraithlord being stopped by anything short of a gargantuan creature/walker or a ctan in hand to hand.

He chokes on something... or a bunch of tyranids swarm and kill him. And if he does become a tyranid, than does he follow the Queen's orders by force as well? And if he is a tyranid, than he will constantly be eaten by the other tyranids, and than constantly change?

Does he have to be killed in cc to come back?