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2009/09/18 13:56:00
Subject: Re:Has DakkaDakka done the political compass test before?
The Realms of the Unreal, of the Glandeco-Angelinnian War Storm, Caused by the Child Slave Rebellion
Economic Left/Right: -5.75
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.90
Guess I'll keep the Dalai Lama company.
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2009/09/19 04:52:15
Subject: Re:Has DakkaDakka done the political compass test before?
@GMM - The only people that don't agree with those don't understand inflation, or are general scumbags that like getting welfare checks for doing nothing.
Economic Left/Right: -3.50
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -2.10
2009/09/19 05:36:31
Subject: Has DakkaDakka done the political compass test before?
Kragura wrote:I thought he was famous for resisting the caste system (I am probably wrong)
I'm afraid so, He disowned his own son for marrying out of caste.
No, Ghandi really was all about breaking down the caste system. He disowned his son because he was aiming for a bourgeois life rather than spending time doing the manual labour that Ghandi felt was good for the soul. He also wanted to remarry after the death of first wife, and that was a big no-no. But it wasn't about the caste of his wife.
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GMMStudios wrote:Controlling inflation is more important than controlling unemployment.
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Do people really disagree with those?
It also isn't a great question. Inflation is important to control because left unchecked it leads to stagflation and subsequently even more unemployment. But all that means is that inflation is important to control to avoid further unemployment... so where does that leave us on that question? Yes, inflation is important, but only to the extent that it impacts unemployment, so which is more important to control.
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“We may observe that the government in a civilized country is much more expensive than in a barbarous one; and when we say that one government is more expensive than another, it is the same as if we said that that one country is farther advanced in improvement than another. To say that the government is expensive and the people not oppressed is to say that the people are rich.”
Adam Smith, who must have been some kind of leftie or something.
2009/09/19 17:26:19
Subject: Has DakkaDakka done the political compass test before?
A little bit of unemployment helps keep inflation under control by preventing wages rising quickly due to excess demand for labour.
If a reserve army of unemployed people is an essential component of the economy, morally society should compensate the unemployed for their service of being in reserve. Also, they will starve to death if not helped, or turn to crime to better their economic position.
Another way for unemployed to improve their situation is to emigrate to a country with low unemployment. We don't like this when it happens to us.
Your political compass
Economic Left/Right: -3.00
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -0.10
n'oublie jamais - It appears I now have to highlight this again.
It is by tea alone I set my mind in motion. By the juice of the brew my thoughts aquire speed, my mind becomes strained, the strain becomes a warning. It is by tea alone I set my mind in motion.
2009/09/19 18:17:39
Subject: Has DakkaDakka done the political compass test before?
Kilkrazy wrote:A little bit of inflation is a good thing.
A little bit of unemployment helps keep inflation under control by preventing wages rising quickly due to excess demand for labour.
If a reserve army of unemployed people is an essential component of the economy, morally society should compensate the unemployed for their service of being in reserve. Also, they will starve to death if not helped, or turn to crime to better their economic position.
Another way for unemployed to improve their situation is to emigrate to a country with low unemployment. We don't like this when it happens to us.
My uncle had a bunch of Polish guys re-furbish his house, and they did a fantastic job. Not to say that you are trying to insult them, just that some (I would guess most) of the immigrants do a fantastic job, and they can make much greater use that money when they go back home. In a nutshell it is taking money out of England, as is the case for a few situations the U.K. is dealing with, online sales included. I am talking about legal immigrants to be clear, illegals open up an entirely different can of worms.
My point being, some labor is just better left to capable hands that can make the most of it. This is in no way to insinuate that Brits are lazy, just that the world economy is changing, and I see no practical reason to hunt for labor where many might not be equipped to function in that role to begin with. I am not of slight frame by any means, but in general, I do know that there are people that can manage intense labor for months on end, whereas I simply cannot; at least at the same pace. This leaves me competing against what is basically a better deal from nearly every angle. Especially when you look at a team, where you have a leader that speaks fantastic english, perhaps even french as well as their native language; I mean that is economized gold in a nutshell right there.
At any rate, we WILL have a certain level of mechanized (at this rate, robotic entirely, and autonomous is the future) assistance being seriously developed (as it has in the past century), and as a result there is much less of a need for labor in general. Perhaps this is the best thing that could happen, perhaps not. In essence I am not sure whether general labor (sticks and stones may break my bones... but I work in a factory and I will epically lay a few "kind" words your way, perhaps even riot, who knows) represents the same kind of prospects for natives of relatively successful countries anymore. I see labor as an indicator of a countries bottom line, and as this bottom line rises, you will begin to see a higher standard of living amongst the general population. Without this bottom line however, countries that are lacking in general, may benefit the world economy greater (things will get cheaper for sure) than if your natives were still doing those jobs.
2009/09/19 18:31:35
Subject: Has DakkaDakka done the political compass test before?
I am both selfish and chaotic. I value self-gratification and control; I want to have things my way, preferably now. At best, I'm entertaining and surprising; at worst, I'm hedonistic and violent.
2009/09/19 18:34:47
Subject: Re:Has DakkaDakka done the political compass test before?
I am both selfish and chaotic. I value self-gratification and control; I want to have things my way, preferably now. At best, I'm entertaining and surprising; at worst, I'm hedonistic and violent.
2009/09/19 18:56:12
Subject: Re:Has DakkaDakka done the political compass test before?
With training... we shall master our skills, and soon... we shall know the power, and the power will be... walking around in circles all day, but we will know the true meaning, and the true meaning shall be known to us.
2009/09/19 20:31:56
Subject: Has DakkaDakka done the political compass test before?
Kilkrazy wrote:A little bit of inflation is a good thing.
A little bit of unemployment helps keep inflation under control by preventing wages rising quickly due to excess demand for labour.
If a reserve army of unemployed people is an essential component of the economy, morally society should compensate the unemployed for their service of being in reserve. Also, they will starve to death if not helped, or turn to crime to better their economic position.
Another way for unemployed to improve their situation is to emigrate to a country with low unemployment. We don't like this when it happens to us.
My uncle had a bunch of Polish guys re-furbish his house, and they did a fantastic job. Not to say that you are trying to insult them, just that some (I would guess most) of the immigrants do a fantastic job, and they can make much greater use that money when they go back home. In a nutshell it is taking money out of England, as is the case for a few situations the U.K. is dealing with, online sales included. I am talking about legal immigrants to be clear, illegals open up an entirely different can of worms.
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You're right, and it's called "Ricardo's Law of Comparative Advantage" by economists. British people moaning about immigrant workers lose sight of the point that lots more Brits have gone overseas to work than have come to the UK.
My point was intended to be ironic; some people want unemployment to keep down inflation, but they don't like the unemployed, and they don't like the unemployed from other countries moving in to find work.
That's why I suggested this quiz in particular, and this quiz to a lesser extent. They make a distinction.
Here's my score on the first one:
And the Second:
politicalquiz.net wrote:
The Quiz
The following are your scores. They are based on a gradual range of 0 to 12. For instance, a Conservative/Progressive score of 3 and 0 will both yield a result of social conservative, yet 0 would be an extreme conservative and 3 a moderate conservative
Conservative/Progressive score: 5
You are a social moderate. You think the progressive movement is overall well meaning, but sometimes it goes too far. On issues like abortion and affirmative action, you see the negatives of both extremes on the issue. You probably value religion, but at the same time you think it should still stay separate from the government
Capitalist Purist/Social Capitalist score: 6
You are a Moderate Capitalist. You support an economy that is by and large a free market, but has public programs to help people who can't help themselves or need a little help. Pretty much you believe in the American economy how it currently is.
Libertarian/Authoritarian score: 1
You are libertarian. You think that the government is making way too many unnecessary laws that are taking away our innate rights. You believe that the government's job is primarily to protect people from harming other people, but after that they should mind their own business, and if we give the government too much power in controlling our lives, it can lead to fascism.
Pacifist/Militarist score: 3
You're a Pacifist. You are angered that the United States thinks it should dominate the world through its military force. You think that the only time war is necessary is when we are in direct danger of being attacked. You also believe the US spends way too much of its money on defense, as we can practically cut it in half and still easily defend ourselves, and use that money to fix all our economic problems.
Overall, you would most likely fit into the category of Libertarian
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2009/09/19 23:18:07
Subject: Re:Has DakkaDakka done the political compass test before?
sebster wrote:No, Ghandi really was all about breaking down the caste system. He disowned his son because he was aiming for a bourgeois life rather than spending time doing the manual labour that Ghandi felt was good for the soul. He also wanted to remarry after the death of first wife, and that was a big no-no. But it wasn't about the caste of his wife.
Gandhi attempted to raise the quality of life for 'untouchables' that's not quite the same thing as being all about breaking down the caste system. Not sure about Harilal's first wife but he was 23 when he attempted to remarry, if that was the case.
The Realms of the Unreal, of the Glandeco-Angelinnian War Storm, Caused by the Child Slave Rebellion
I didn't get the point of this one.
Abstract art that doesn't represent anything shouldn't be considered art at all.
Wouldn't response to this only measure a person's capacity for (or acknowledgment of) abstract thought? I fail to see how this helps determine one's political leanings.
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2009/09/20 01:34:41
Subject: Has DakkaDakka done the political compass test before?
George Spiggott wrote:Gandhi attempted to raise the quality of life for 'untouchables' that's not quite the same thing as being all about breaking down the caste system. Not sure about Harilal's first wife but he was 23 when he attempted to remarry, if that was the case.
Gandhi in 1931;
"I do not believe in caste in the modern sense. It is an excrescence and a handicap on progress. Nor do I believe in inequalities between human beings. We are all absolutely equal. But equality is of souls and not bodies.... We have to realize equality in the midst of this apparent inequality. Assumption of superiority by any person over any other is a sin against God and man. Thus caste, in so far as it connotes distinctions in status, is an evil."
He did believe in keeping the career of your father, as he placed a strong emphasis on tradition and family. But he didn't think there should be any inherent status in one career or family over another, and wanted inter-marriage between the castes. Which doesn't strike me as particularly practical, but I don't think many of Gandhi's social views were.
“We may observe that the government in a civilized country is much more expensive than in a barbarous one; and when we say that one government is more expensive than another, it is the same as if we said that that one country is farther advanced in improvement than another. To say that the government is expensive and the people not oppressed is to say that the people are rich.”
Adam Smith, who must have been some kind of leftie or something.
2009/09/20 22:03:24
Subject: Has DakkaDakka done the political compass test before?
The Realms of the Unreal, of the Glandeco-Angelinnian War Storm, Caused by the Child Slave Rebellion
dogma wrote:Two zig zags? Is that all you need?
Depends on the work. My abstract works are way more labor intensive than my representational work. Abstract art is just as often badly executed as any other form of art. Actually, good abstract art is much harder to produce than good representational art. Anyone can recognize a person or a tree or a building, but making an abstract work which actively engages it's audience requires a lot of knowledge.
2 - The hobbiest - The guy who likes the minis for what they are, loves playing with painted armies, using offical mini's in a friendly setting. Wants to play on boards with good terrain.
Devlin Mud is cheating.
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2009/09/20 22:31:48
Subject: Has DakkaDakka done the political compass test before?
BloodofOrks wrote:
Depends on the work. My abstract works are way more labor intensive than my representational work. Abstract art is just as often badly executed as any other form of art. Actually, good abstract art is much harder to produce than good representational art. Anyone can recognize a person or a tree or a building, but making an abstract work which actively engages it's audience requires a lot of knowledge.
Sorry, it was a reference to this song...
...directed at the picture of Colt 45 a ways up.
Life does not cease to be funny when people die any more than it ceases to be serious when people laugh.
2009/09/20 23:07:06
Subject: Re:Has DakkaDakka done the political compass test before?
The Realms of the Unreal, of the Glandeco-Angelinnian War Storm, Caused by the Child Slave Rebellion
Ah. My bad.
2 - The hobbiest - The guy who likes the minis for what they are, loves playing with painted armies, using offical mini's in a friendly setting. Wants to play on boards with good terrain.
Devlin Mud is cheating.
More people have more rights now. Suck it.- Polonius
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2009/09/20 23:21:53
Subject: Has DakkaDakka done the political compass test before?
Although I never really considered myself much of a centre-ist in terms of authority, interesting.
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