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nosferatu1001 wrote:And none of your definitions involve, in the slightest, the phrase "choose which models to affect"

Ok, rhetorical question time: Are you seriously suggesting that these definitions don't apply because they don't use the word "models"? I ask because that's very similar to your argument that JotWW doesn't target anything because it doesn't use the word "target". Are you truly incapable of applying a relevant concept to a new situation?

Does it matter which noun we throw in there? If you make a target of terrorists, you're targeting terrorists. If you aim at clay pigeons, you're targeting clay pigeons. If you establish military vehicles as a target, you're targeting military vehicles. If you do any of those things to models, you're targeting models, and that's exactly what you're doing with Jaws of the World Wolf when you decide where to draw that line.

nosferatu1001 wrote:Since you've brought up other fora - how about that you do NOT choose which models to affect? First you pick a direction, and then draw a line.

The first bit is the only "choice" you have - the direction. Determining which models are affected does not happen until the second bit, meaning you are never "choosing what models are affected" and therefore cannot, according to *your* "functional equivalent", be choosing a target (or targets)

So either way round the models affected are not the targets.

Ok, so you'd have no problem as a JotWW user if every time you went to use the power I'd make you leave the room, cover the table with a think black blanket so you can't see where any of the models are, spin it around a bit, and then make you pick your direction and draw the line from the runepriest (let's assume we marked his location on the blanket with a sticker)? After all, you're just picking a direction and drawing a line, right? Or are you choosing where to put that line based on what models you want to affect? I'm guessing it's the latter. And if so, you're targeting those models.

Demogerg wrote:Good job GK, selectively ignoring my quotes from page 37.

No I didn't. I addressed them with the following language (I'll repost it so you can read it again... see what I did there?):

GiantKiller wrote:"is a psychic shooting attack" "as a psychic shooting attack" and "like a psychic shooting attack" all invoke the same rules for psychic shooting attacks. Suggesting that "is, as, and like" have three distinct meanings in the rules is giving more credit to GW's rules writers than they're due.

Hope this helps!
-GK

Locked for threadnomancy. We just had another discussion on this, no need to dredge this one back up as well.