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Carlovonsexron wrote:Not sure why the renders are getting so much hate- its like no one can actually tell that these guys have the well armored vibe of being pre-heresy IG. (Big shoulder pads = design elements taken from the spess marinze cause tehy roxxorz the Emperorz prezenze)

In my eyes they are easilly the equal of the Cadians, and assuming you arnt afraid to use a hobby saw or some green stuff, should be the basis of hugely unique armies at a fraction of the cost that GW would charge you...

wargames factory is doing a bang up job- only time before I roder some stuff from them, I suspect.

You and the other guy are late to this conversation.

We've been keeping an eye on these for quite some time now and Wargames Factory have been here on and off since the beginning looking for honest feedback. They got the feedback. No ones doing any over the top ball busting, and seeing as this Isn't Sparta, and it is Dakka....

We do what we do so we can get the stuff we want and asked for.

The opinions are good, and there really hasn't been too many over the top requests to the figs.

Just because someone asked for something, or gives a critique doesn't mean they won't be picking them up a platoon of them from his local game store.

You want honest, you get honest.

You want fanboy, the doors that way.

Grot 6 wrote:You want honest, you get honest.

You want fanboy, the doors that way.

Exactly, because splitting the community into resentful little cliques and evicting those who fall short of our standards for acceptable behavior are both fine methods for breeding, shall we say, a better, stronger wargaming community. Or maybe you should just grow up and realize not everyone sees the world as you do.

Breeding a stronger wargaming community...ew...

Agamemnon2 wrote:

Grot 6 wrote:You want honest, you get honest.

You want fanboy, the doors that way.

Exactly, because splitting the community into resentful little cliques and evicting those who fall short of our standards for acceptable behavior are both fine methods for breeding, shall we say, a better, stronger wargaming community. Or maybe you should just grow up and realize not everyone sees the world as you do.

I have a better idea.

Why don't you get off your high horse and give some feedback on an ongoing work from a company that asked for feedback, ideas, and recommendations.

Your comment doesn't even have a place in this conversation anymore then fanboy comments. In case you missed it-

http://www.wargamesfactory.com/league- The beginning of the projects.

http://www.wargamesfactory.com/BookingRetrieve.aspx?ID=42195- continuing work on the project.

http://www.wargamesfactory.com/leaguelists- lists of works in progress, as well as THIS COMPANY ASKING FOR FEEDBACK AND RECOMMENDATIONS


Next time, why don't you try to know what you are talking about before you type out something that makes you look like a cheesepoof.

I got rid of the rest of that, because quite frankly, your comments are not worth it.

You are uninformed. Period.

We will continue to provide feedback, regardless of your opinion.

I for one am waiting on my greatcoats, and I'm following the project.

The guys look 110% better then the beginnings did.

Grot 6 wrote:The guys look 110% better then the beginnings did.

I have been on that thread since the beginning. In the beginning it was undeveloped but promising. I had a lot of hope.
The current models have passable heads, but I never intended to use the stock heads, I would have used pig iron heads. The robo-viking head and capped head look stupid.
They have passable coats/legs too, though I miss the buttons a bit.
The chest armor and shoulder armor however is terrible. Totally awful looking. The chest armor is too rounded and mushy looking, and the shoulder pads don't match the chest armor at all, even the recently "revised" version with the ridiculous and nonsensical vertical armor stripe.
I have not seen any basic guns but the minigun design is awful, and it would strangle anyone that used it.

All in all I have looked at, and gave suggestions in, that thread for the whole 9 months that it has existed now and I must say they have made one ugly baby. I will not be buying any if the design stays as it is.

lord_blackfang wrote:

His Master's Voice wrote:Come one, if you really want stuff like that just buy this

http://www.princeaugust.ie/target_games/tg2420-1.html

The trenchers actually look half decent even today, unlike this bunch of creeps.

I have a bag of these and no glue will hold them. Not even green stuff sticks to these

I stuck them with humbrol liquid poly. Works fine.

@ Ramshackle Curtis: Does this look like the kind of place where you can just post pictures of guys with gas masks, turbans and pith helmets willy nilly and just carry on as if nothing cool and awesome has happened without a bye or leave?

Bosh and flim-flam!

Sir, I demand satisfaction, I demand links!

Oh dear they aren't very good are they? I like the bodies, even the chest armour considering the price. The heads are bad, but I could replace those, but the arms as well? Who thought the shoulder pads were a good idea? They just looks awful, people wanted fairly plain looking futuristic soldiers in great coats, not all this gubbins stuck to them.

Sigh.

I dunno, the shoulderpads don't spoil it for me. They're a little bit silly, but hey, it's plastic, it's cheap and it's wearing a greatcoat and a gas mask.

Wow, these are absolute garbage. Even for Wargames Factory, and thats saying something.

Grot 6 wrote:Why don't you get off your high horse and give some feedback on an ongoing work from a company that asked for feedback, ideas, and recommendations.

What makes you think I haven't? I've posted feedback on every single stage of the project, none of which aroused any interest or agreement. Also, it became apparent very quickly that WGF's designers simply lack the imagination to make these models look in any way interesting. I really can't see how anyone could be happy with what we're getting now, a timid compromise.

See, I liked these:



And stated so unequivocally, but I guess I must've gotten drowned out by that segment of WGF fans who're either mad, or both. I might still buy the current set, if they're cheap enough for me to do something interesting with. Maybe.

Remember people, if you don't like them, please go say so on their forums, because that's the point of the "wargames factory" thing.

George Spiggott wrote:@ Ramshackle Curtis: Does this look like the kind of place where you can just post pictures of guys with gas masks, turbans and pith helmets willy nilly and just carry on as if nothing cool and awesome has happened without a bye or leave?

Bosh and flim-flam!

Sir, I demand satisfaction, I demand links!

Oh, sorry dude, my fault! The heads are made by me and can be bought here:

http://shop.ramshacklegames.co.uk/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=18&zenid=c3abbce95c94802553c365b26190a678

Yeah, as for the topic here, Im not so into the wargames factory stuff. The detail is too spongy, I prefer other manufacturers.

I ordered 5 sprues today of them. I think this will be awsome.

I really liked the first version. Especially the guy with no helmet. It had a really cool future-paratrooper look to him.

Anyway I think everyone agrees the bearded head looks horrible. I personally don't have a problem with the shoulder pads, but then again these guys will be sporting Cadian arms in my force.

I think the greatcoats looked best in the beginning with buttons, no shoulder pads, and a much more armed and armored but still flexible look to them. Guess we just have to wait to see how this project ends up.

i would love it when the great coats come out-cant wait

The latest and greatest.

lord_blackfang wrote:

The latest and greatest.

You know what? I actually really like that model.

i really like these actually, they'll be useful for padding out my necromunda guys

Yes please!
I'd love about 60 of these guys painted up to be filthy and with proper trenchy scenic bases.

Very cool! That´s what I want.

M.

The gun will get smaller (comment from WGF) but that's pretty much the plan.

I'm happy.

Arbites army ho!

Kid_Kyoto wrote:The gun will get smaller (comment from WGF) but that's pretty much the plan.

I'm happy.

Arbites army ho!

After all those renders, that really reassures me that these guys might turn out okay.

You know, those aren't too bad with the actual weapon in hand, etc. but its really going to come down to cost for me. I'm hearing they want to put 3 guys to a sprue and then load it up with a bunch of bits I dont want like oversized beard heads and poorly designed miniguns.... If these have a pricetag atall similar to their zulu war brits I will jump all over them. If they have a GW price tag... forget it.

They'll probably cost the same as anything else from Wargames Factory. Also, I'd bet on 5 figures per sprue. That's their norm.

Brother SRM wrote:They'll probably cost the same as anything else from Wargames Factory. Also, I'd bet on 5 figures per sprue. That's their norm.

They've said 3 bodies per sprue, in order to fit heavy and special weapons. So likely 3 for $5 or $6.
IG are 10 for $25


Automatically Appended Next Post:
Got a clarification, the gun in the render is the right size, they just meant the close up was enlarged.

http://wargamesfactory.lefora.com/2010/01/13/greatcoat-updates-11310/

Not so impressed with the model, must be the 3d casting which makes it almost look as if the model is somewhat melting...

The gun is great though! Has a lot of potential!

I want to buy these now!!!! When is the ETA on these sprues?

If Wargames Factory would manage it, to cast proper and sharp details, their quality would improve so much.

But without that, the models keep looking like blurry, melting plastic.

lord_blackfang wrote:

The latest and greatest.

every render till now has been so-so to meh, but I really like the look of this render and it gives me hope that they'll produce a good kit.