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Nope, but I consider these are the same people that believe in a savior who live's everyone.

And to qoute a amazing comedian.
"These people actually believe there is a guy who watches over everything at every given time.

And has written 10 rules and if you break them... Then he has a special place where you will burn and suffer and scream!!!!!... But he love's you!!!"

He also said a Buisness man can't hold a candle to a clergymen, when it comes to BSing.

R.I.P George Carlin

*Facepalm*

so you use the minority extremists to say, well all religion is bad, so i are atheist nows.

that is a bit of bs.

Yea, yea I make fun of religon now im a infidel.

I get it.

isthatmycow wrote:so you use the minority extremists to say, well all religion is bad, so i are atheist nows.

that is a bit of bs.

Pretty standard, really. Extreme black and white views are much easier to hold for people that don't actually think about what they believe. When you're sitting around a basement with your friends it's much easier to say "religion are bad" than "boy, some members of that faith sure act like tools."

It's why we should judge all Christians on Pat Robertson's comments, all Muslims on Osama Bin Laden's actions, and all black people on Idi Amin's.

Shades of gray are far too complicated.

Shadowbrand wrote:Yea, yea I make fun of religon now im a infidel.

I get it.

See.... the problem here is twofold.

First you take a cult (Westboro Baptist Church is a cult) and equate them to Christianity. This is similar to why I was pointing out the "Christian rage" error. If people like me don't say anything than uninformed people like Shadowbrand get all confused and think cults and such are Christian organizations.

Second. YOU didn't make fun of religion, George Carlin did. The only thing you did, was copy paste something he said, because you have no originality.

GG

@ GG

For the record,not all Skinheads are racist neo nazis,and most of the ones who are racist arn't part of the "Christian Identity church",the majority of "nazi skinheads" claim to be "Odinist" or some variation of "warrior religion".

Anyway,to get back on topic,IIRC Robertson spouted this same sort of nonsense back in 2004 when the "Indian ocean" Tsunami killed a qaurter of a million people.
I'm not "Christian bashing",but I can not understand why this man is still allowed to have an open forerum to express his twisted ideas.
I'm all for freedom of speach,but this sort of "speach" shouldn't have a billion dollar bankroll & telivision networks backing it up.

Fitzz I wasn't aware of that. Thanks.

As far as Robertson he is the head of CBN, I think, so he's there until he dies as far as I know.

GG

generalgrog wrote:Fitzz I wasn't aware of that. Thanks.

As far as Robertson he is the head of CBN, I think, so he's there until he dies as far as I know.

GG

Yeah,I see your point,but would it not ultimantly benifit Christians like yourself to publicly denounce a man such as him?
Most people who "have problems" with Christians honestly have problems with people like Robertson..not with Christians in general,and it would seem that Christians such as yourself would wish to put distance between yourself and the likes of Robertson.

I think pretty much everyone has publicly denounced what Robertson said. I'm agnostic, but I don't know of any Christians who have said "You know who I think makes a lot of sense? Pat Robertson."

He takes a beating in the public arena, and other Christians shake their heads in embarrassment.

Shadowbrand wrote:Yea, yea I make fun of religon now im a infidel.

I get it.

i'm saying you are judging entire religoins and peoples on their stereotypes. You use those stereotypes to make your judgemnet on religions, so you asy, oh well west boro church is this and this, so all christians are bad, like saying becasue 9/11 was caused by terrorists who are muslim, so then therefore all muslims are terrorist. Its slowed thinking

True,Not a single christian I know (and I do know a few) have said "Gee...that Pat Robertson sure knows what he's talking about.",and as I said I'm certianly not trying to bash Christians.
However,this man is a disgrace and should have his "soap box" yanked out from under him.
Surely CBN has to rely on some advertising dollars?

Shadowbrand wrote:Yea, yea I make fun of religon now im a infidel.

I get it.

No, you like George Carlin and think that makes you smart, or that it implies you have a good sense of humor.

FITZZ wrote: True,Not a single christian I know (and I do know a few) have said "Gee...that Pat Robertson sure knows what he's talking about.",and as I said I'm certianly not trying to bash Christians.
However,this man is a disgrace and should have his "soap box" yanked out from under him.
Surely CBN has to rely on some advertising dollars?

I imagine that a lot of what they rely on is donations from viewers.

It's just a sad fact that if you own a broadcasting network you can pretty much say whatever you want. Or in the case of Fox News and MSNBC, your proxies can say whatever you tell them they are allowed to say.

I think it is time for someone to smuther grandpa with a pillow because he is starting to spout out crazy talk. On second thought, he needs to live since his rantings are becoming comedic gold. Just watch the video. That women is hang off his even word. Stupis !

Listening to the audio he sounds like a drunk Bill Clinton trying to pick up an overweight intern. I can just see him there at a bar, cigarrette in one hand, whiskey in the other with the old testiment resting up his right hand all the while trying to crack those panties.

He is scum just like most of those tv preachers. Just praying on the stupid and the elderly who are trying to cram for the final exam. "If you do not send all you social security to me you are a sinner!"

I really don't care about what he says. Let him. Let Pat Robertson, Keith Olbermann, Al Sharpton, Bill O'Reilly and Michael Moore all say whatever they want. That's what freedom of speech is.

We don't have to agree, or even watch. It's better to keep our maniacs right out in the open where we can keep an eye on them.

As mum always says, God needs more fruits of the spirit and less religious nuts.

Deff Dread red Edition wrote:As mum always says, God needs more fruits of the spirit and less religious nuts.

Quoted for fething truth! sounds like your mum is a wise lady.


Please, please, please dakka! Don't think that all christians are like this robertson guy! For that matter please don't lump us in with any televagelist.

*Raises hand*
Am I allowed to lump you in with all the others that won't let me own a Canadian?

Pat Robertson... Allowing all Christianity to be slandered for at least 30 years.

Yeah cant we get off slating Religion on the macro level? I mean, not all Christians are bad, gak, even most arent. The issue here is that Pat Robertson is an absolute [Mod Edit - DO NOT try to get around the swearfilter]. Its nothing to do with the whole broadbrush thing as Ive not once seen another Christian ever come up to me and say "Pat Robertson is awesome!" They all think he is a tool as well. ;D

mattyrm wrote:Yeah cant we get off slating Religion on the macro level? I mean, not all Christians are bad, gak, even most arent. The issue here is that Pat Robertson is an absolute [deleted]. Its nothing to do with the whole broadbrush thing as Ive not once seen another Christian ever come up to me and say "Pat Robertson is awesome!" They all think he is a tool as well. ;D

Well,their are obviously some (Christians) that agree with him and are keeping him(and all the other televagelist) in business,however I do agree that one shouldn't label all Christians intolerant fethheads simply based on Robertsons statements.

I dont think this Pat Robertson guy is soo bad, really. There are alot worse nut jobs out there, watch the video I posted on page 1 for example.

ShumaGorath wrote:

Shadowbrand wrote:Yea, yea I make fun of religon now im a infidel.

I get it.

No, you like George Carlin and think that makes you smart, or that it implies you have a good sense of humor.

And you misspell George Carlin quotes, which doesn't help your case either.

So... how do you guys know that Haiti DIDN'T make a pact with the Debbul?

<ducking and running>

Same way we know you're not funny?

The Green Git wrote:So... how do you guys know that Haiti DIDN'T make a pact with the Debbul?

<ducking and running>

Becuase the pacts I've made with the Devil have yielded no neggative results....oops,wait...I forgot about that whole Hurricane Katrina episode..nevermind.

wow. i watched the 700 club before. like 5 times. i never knew they were this crazy. i am never watching this again.

garret wrote:wow. i watched the 700 club before. like 5 times. i never knew they were this crazy. i am never watching this again.

Outstanding! now if only a few million more of his viewers would follow your example.