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I think these would be great alternative heads for guardsmen.

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Do we get to see the end result on the changes for the last helmet?

That's the only one I did not like, for the same reason as many other people.

Kanluwen wrote:Frankly, they look more like something you'd see on Traitor Guardsmen than Astartes.

I completely agree can we see some pictures on guard bodies? I think they would look pretty good on guard.

Do we get to see the end result on the changes for the last helmet?

That's the only one I did not like, for the same reason as many other people.

Hold your horses, it takes some time to resculpt and recut something as delicate as a miniature head.

Here are some progress pics for you to see if you are ok with the basic helmet/head shape. I will add detail and alter it as I sculpt further on, more pics will come.

Looking good! And if you are looking for trade, I happen to have a small GW store in my basement

I like it only recomendations is bring the back and sides out a little and I dare say I like it without a jaw. If you want nurglesk then one wiht a horn would work.

I like it only recomendations is bring the back and sides out a little and I dare say I like it without a jaw. If you want nurglesk then one wiht a horn would work.

Tried that, didnt look to good and besides things at the sides will be sculpted on to bulk it up.

No nurgle theme for this helmet though, you can use it as a death guard in that it is a skull (death, traitor etc) or a chaplain or loyalist elite squads, maybe a deathwatch or legion of the damned helmet.

I will be doing this more in the "Iron Man" theme.

Awesome work Pyriel! These are now my fav bits from Chapter House. Almost makes me wanna start up a Nurgle themed chaos list.

AWESOME!

THAT was what I was hoping for!

When can I order some???

These are great. I would totally get some for Storm Troopers etc.

I also agree with the Greek Helmet idea - if you made some of those (like a more stylised version of the faceplate for the average Chaos Warrior without the horns) then I would be there in a second.

Pyriel - I think that if most of the heads are meant for traitor guardsmen or chaos worshipers, you might want to update the title on the thread?

I also agree with the Greek Helmet idea - if you made some of those (like a more stylised version of the faceplate for the average Chaos Warrior without the horns) then I would be there in a second.

Pyriel - I think that if most of the heads are meant for traitor guardsmen or chaos worshipers, you might want to update the title on the thread?

Any pics of what you mean with the chaos helmet?

Well, I guess people are smart enough to see what various bitz could be used for without it saying so in the name, besides cant have to long thread titles

Pyriel- wrote:

I also agree with the Greek Helmet idea - if you made some of those (like a more stylised version of the faceplate for the average Chaos Warrior without the horns) then I would be there in a second.

Pyriel - I think that if most of the heads are meant for traitor guardsmen or chaos worshipers, you might want to update the title on the thread?

Any pics of what you mean with the chaos helmet?

Well, I guess people are smart enough to see what various bitz could be used for without it saying so in the name, besides cant have to long thread titles

From dakka images (props to the owners)





Basically, a greek helmet, with or without a crest or plume, with a bit more open face than seen here. Check out google for Greek Helmets or Spartan Helmets to see what I am talking about.

Just a suggestion for a cool looking head, but I am loving those others coming through too!

The biggest problem I have with the skull-helm is that it isn't centered. The eys should vertically be at the center of the head, and as it stands, the upper head looks overly inflated.

Lack of a jaw is one thing, but you have to compensate for that. Attaching a jawless skull onto a neck aligns the "face" lower on the head.

See the attachment on how the eyes aren't vertically centered and how a human head 'would' fit into the helmet and be off-center. Assuming the eyes are aligned, the lack of jaw 'shifts' the wearer's head out of the helmet and adds a lot of unnecessary space to the top of the head.

Also, pardon the crude MSPaint job.

Its a helmet or mask, its not going to be a perfect representation of a skull.

Saying that, there is some fixin' that will be done.

How much will this stuff cost? I will take all of them except the skulled ones!

Does CH give discount to Dakka members?
I want some discounts xD

Agree the upper skull could be shaved a touch, and maybe the temples indented in a touch? The face is spot on, the upper dome of the skull seems to be...um... skinned I guess would be the term? A shaved head.

That being said, jeebus you whipped it out fast, and the back detailing and the face itself are kick ass, so is the no jaw thing if you ask me.

I would love to jump forward a year and see what you guys are up to then, if things keep getting better and better like they are it's going to be mental!

man you whipped that up fast... I love it. Even without the lower jaw, it looks fine to me.

these will make for some good helmets to supplement my FW Plague Marines.

Absolutionis wrote:The biggest problem I have with the skull-helm is that it isn't centered.

What about the fact that it doesn't have a jaw???

Well, with a jaw it looks more "real", however I had to remove the jaw (it actually looks ok then, just as taking a jaw away would create a non centered eye line).

The main reason for the removal of the jaw though is it would mean it wont fit on a mini and then you would all complain about a head that cant be used at all

Also, it is no longer "shaved" I added detail that make it look and feel like an armoured helmet but still with a distinct skull shape. Pics coming in a wee while.

Pyriel- wrote:Well, with a jaw it looks more "real", however I had to remove the jaw (it actually looks ok then, just as taking a jaw away would create a non centered eye line).

The main reason for the removal of the jaw though is it would mean it wont fit on a mini and then you would all complain about a head that cant be used at all

Also, it is no longer "shaved" I added detail that make it look and feel like an armoured helmet but still with a distinct skull shape. Pics coming in a wee while.

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Awesome!

The quick changes and response to feedback are quite something!

Looking forward to updated pictures...

http://www.maxmini.eu/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=12&products_id=53
For those that want Greek styled helmets then look here.

They are nice, but I think people* are after more of a 'power armored helmet' in that style, rather than an archaic Greek looking one.

*I know I am!

So finished resculpting the skull helmet, removed the "cap" added a skull, made it look armoured and added small vents on top to tie in more with the SM feel.
Hope it looks better then the previous one. I´m going to use it on legion of the damned minis myself and maybe as an imperial assassin.

Remade the "headphones" or audio augurs (whatever they are called).
Added those hallow spaces behind the eye bones as well thanks to being reminded to do skulls as they are supposed to look.

I want them right now. When can I order them?

They are nice, but I think people* are after more of a 'power armored helmet' in that style, rather than an archaic Greek looking one.

*I know I am!

Sculpting. Just hold your horses.

Very nice!

The changes 'finish' the look, and I suspect you'll now sell quite a few of them!

whoa... Lobot on a severe diet.

Damn.. I hate seeing coolness and having to wait until they become available for sale. I want NOW..

(mainly cause I can use em NOW and hate having models sitting unfinished for a month)

Chapterhouse wrote:Its a helmet or mask, its not going to be a perfect representation of a skull.

H.B.M.C. wrote:

Absolutionis wrote:The biggest problem I have with the skull-helm is that it isn't centered.

What about the fact that it doesn't have a jaw???

Lack of a jaw and artistic representation of a skull is fine.
My issue is that if you imagine a human(oid) head inside that helmet/mask, the helmet/mask's eye sockets are going to align with the wearer's nose.
You removed the jaw, but the wearer still has a jaw.
Even the GW Lemartes figure has some breathing unit where his jaw should be.

Nevertheless, the new sculpts really do look awesome. You have amazing skill as a sculptor and don't let my comments discourage you.

Pyriel- wrote:

They are nice, but I think people* are after more of a 'power armored helmet' in that style, rather than an archaic Greek looking one.

*I know I am!

Sculpting. Just hold your horses.

Horses holding.