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Are we including allies? If so that SoB list could be several thousand points higher...

Also, Inquisitors cannot take LR's only the Lords can. With Infantry Platoons in the mix SoB come to...

Inq Lord and Retinue - 801
Canoness and Retinue - 787
2x Full SoB Squads - 601 each
4x Guard Platoons - 2185 each
2x Celestians - 531 each
1x Repentia - 410 each
3x Dominion - 494 each
3x Retributors - 391 each

-Total:15681

calypso2ts wrote:Are we including allies? If so that SoB list could be several thousand points higher...

Well, the OP did not mention anything about Allies. But KISS-principle ( mono-Codex ) keeps the number of variables in check.

yeah, if we could include things like allies, all of the guard's pathetic ogryn squads would become 10-man grey knight terminator squads. I think the point is to see how many points you can spend from your own codex.

Space Wolves
14310 pts.
HQ: 595
Logan Grimnar 275
Wolf Lord (2 Thunder Hammer, Wolf Mount, Melta Bombs, Wolf Tooth Necklace, 2 Wolves, Mark of the Wulfen, Belt of Russ, Saga of the Bear) 320

Elite: 3980
1 Wolf Guard Pack (10; Bikes, 2 Thunder Hammer, 1 Mark of Wulfen, All Meltabombs, LRC(all upgrades), Arjac) 1560
2 Wolf Guard Pack (10; Bikes, 2 Thunder Hammer, 1 Mark of Wulfen, All Meltabombs, Razorback (TLAC, Dozer Blades, Storm Bolter, HK, Extra Armour)) 1210

Troops: 7260
6 Wolf Guard Pack (10; Bikes, 2 Thunder Hammer, 1 Mark of Wulfen, All Meltabombs, Razorback (TLAC, Dozer Blades, Storm Bolter, HK, Extra Armour)) 1210

Fast Attack: 1590
3 Thunderwolf (5;Thunder Hammer, SS, Mark of the Wulfen) 530

Heavy Support: 885
3 LRC (all upgrades) 295

it's only 198 hammers. (forgot to add the 20 from the Elite with arjac). the real question: would this be any good ?!?!?!?

The last Ork guy missed out on a couple tricks. Here's what I believe to be the absolute most expensive Ork list possible;

Ghazghkull Thraka - 225

Mad Dok Grotsnik - 160

10x Nobz; 1175
-Stikkbombs
-10x Power klaws
-10x TL shootas
-10x 'eavy armour, cybork bodies, bosspoles, Waagh! banners, ammo runts
-Battlewagon; all upgrades (except reinforced ram), 4x rokkit launcha, zzap gun

10x Nobz; 1175
-Stikkbombs
-10x Power klaws
-10x TL shootas
-10x 'eavy armour, cybork bodies, bosspoles, Waagh! banners, ammo runts
-Battlewagon; all upgrades (except reinforced ram), 4x rokkit launcha, zzap gun

10x Nobz; 1175
-Stikkbombs
-10x Power klaws
-10x TL shootas
-10x 'eavy armour, cybork bodies, bosspoles, Waagh! banners, ammo runts
-Battlewagon; all upgrades (except reinforced ram), 4x rokkit launcha, zzap gun

10x Nobz; 1175
-Stikkbombs
-10x Power klaws
-10x TL shootas
-10x 'eavy armour, cybork bodies, bosspoles, Waagh! banners, ammo runts
-Battlewagon; all upgrades (except reinforced ram), 4x rokkit launcha, zzap gun

30x Boyz; 550
-'Ard Boyz
-stikkbombs
-3x rokkit launchas
-30x cybork bodies
-Nob w/ PK, bosspole

30x Boyz; 435
-30x cybork bodies
-stikkbombs
-3x rokkit launchas
-Nob w/ PK, 'eavy armour, bosspole

30x Boyz; 435
-30x cybork bodies
-stikkbombs
-3x rokkit launchas
-Nob w/ PK, 'eavy armour, bosspole

30x Boyz; 435
-30x cybork bodies
-stikkbombs
-3x rokkit launchas
-Nob w/ PK, 'eavy armour, bosspole

30x Boyz; 435
-30x cybork bodies
-stikkbombs
-3x rokkit launchas
-Nob w/ PK, 'eavy armour, bosspole

5x Deffkoptas; 450
-5x TL rokkits
-5x bigbomm
-5x buzzsaw
-5x cybork bodies

5x Deffkoptas; 450
-5x TL rokkits
-5x bigbomm
-5x buzzsaw
-5x cybork bodies

5x Deffkoptas; 450
-5x TL rokkits
-5x bigbomm
-5x buzzsaw
-5x cybork bodies

10x Flash Gitz;640
-Kaptain Badrukk
-More Dakka
-Shootier
-Blasta
-3x ammo runts
-Painboy
-grot orderly
-11x cybork bodies

10x Flash Gitz;500
-More Dakka
-Shootier
-Blasta
-3x ammo runts
-Painboy
-grot orderly
-10x cybork bodies

10x Flash Gitz;500
-More Dakka
-Shootier
-Blasta
-3x ammo runts
-Painboy
-grot orderly
-10x cybork bodies

TOTAL: 10,365

Daemon Hunters

HQ:
Grand Master - 2xChain Fist, Holy Relic, Icon of the Just, MCW, Psy-Bolts, Psy-Hood, Holocaust - 1045
GKT (10) - Psycannon, Holocaust, BC w/2xChain Fist, Bionics, Icon of the Just, MCW, Psy-Bolts, Psy-Hood, Teleport Homer, Unguents of Warding

Inq Lord - 2xForce Weapon, Icon of the Just, MCW, Psy-Bolts, Psy-Hood, Teleport Homer, Terminator Armour, Banishment, Destroy Daemon, Holocaust, Scourging - 791
3x Acolyte - Combi-Melta, Las Pistol
3x Gun Servitor - 2xMM, 1xPC
3x Familier
Land Raider - All Upgrades

Elite:
GKT (10) - Psycannon, Holocaust, BC w/2xChain Fist, Bionics, Icon of the Just, MCW, Psy-Bolts, Psy-Hood, Teleport Homer, Unguents of Warding - 720

GKT (10) - Psycannon, Holocaust, BC w/2xChain Fist, Bionics, Icon of the Just, MCW, Psy-Bolts, Psy-Hood, Teleport Homer, Unguents of Warding - 720

GKT (10) - Psycannon, Holocaust, BC w/2xChain Fist, Bionics, Icon of the Just, MCW, Psy-Bolts, Psy-Hood, Teleport Homer, Unguents of Warding - 720

Troops:
PAGK (10) - 2xPsycannon, Justicar w/Bionics, Icon of the Just, MCW, Psy-Bolts, Psy-Hood, Teleport Homer, Unguents of Warding - 425

PAGK (10) - 2xPsycannon, Justicar w/Bionics, Icon of the Just, MCW, Psy-Bolts, Psy-Hood, Teleport Homer, Unguents of Warding - 425

PAGK (10) - 2xPsycannon, Justicar w/Bionics, Icon of the Just, MCW, Psy-Bolts, Psy-Hood, Teleport Homer, Unguents of Warding - 425

PAGK (10) - 2xPsycannon, Justicar w/Bionics, Icon of the Just, MCW, Psy-Bolts, Psy-Hood, Teleport Homer, Unguents of Warding - 425

PAGK (10) - 2xPsycannon, Justicar w/Bionics, Icon of the Just, MCW, Psy-Bolts, Psy-Hood, Teleport Homer, Unguents of Warding - 425

PAGK (10) - 2xPsycannon, Justicar w/Bionics, Icon of the Just, MCW, Psy-Bolts, Psy-Hood, Teleport Homer, Unguents of Warding - 425

Fast Attack:
PAGK (10) - 2xPsycannon, Justicar w/Bionics, Icon of the Just, MCW, Psy-Bolts, Psy-Hood, Teleport Homer, Unguents of Warding - 425

PAGK (10) - 2xPsycannon, Justicar w/Bionics, Icon of the Just, MCW, Psy-Bolts, Psy-Hood, Teleport Homer, Unguents of Warding - 425

PAGK (10) - 2xPsycannon, Justicar w/Bionics, Icon of the Just, MCW, Psy-Bolts, Psy-Hood, Teleport Homer, Unguents of Warding - 425

Heavy Support:
GKPS (10) - 4xPsycannon, Justicar w/Bionics, Icon of the Just, MCW, Psy-Bolts, Psy-Hood, Teleport Homer, Unguents of Warding - 495

GKPS (10) - 4xPsycannon, Justicar w/Bionics, Icon of the Just, MCW, Psy-Bolts, Psy-Hood, Teleport Homer, Unguents of Warding - 495

GKPS (10) - 4xPsycannon, Justicar w/Bionics, Icon of the Just, MCW, Psy-Bolts, Psy-Hood, Teleport Homer, Unguents of Warding - 495


9,246


It should be noted that both DH and WH would be a lot higher if they used IG troop choices.


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Chaos Daemons


HQ:
Lord of Change - All Upgrades - 365

Lord of Change - All Upgrades - 365

Elite:
Flamers (12) - Bolt - 450

Flamers (12) - Bolt - 450

Flamers (12) - Bolt - 450

Troops:
Horrors (20) - Bolt, Icon, Instrument, Changeling - 385

Horrors (20) - Bolt, Icon, Instrument - 380

Horrors (20) - Bolt, Icon, Instrument - 380

Horrors (20) - Bolt, Icon, Instrument - 380

Horrors (20) - Bolt, Icon, Instrument - 380

Horrors (20) - Bolt, Icon, Instrument - 380

Fast Attack:
Seekers (20) - Gaze, Icon, Instrument - 375

Seekers (20) - Gaze, Icon, Instrument - 375

Seekers (20) - Gaze, Icon, Instrument - 375

Heavy Support:
Prince - MoT, Flight, Instrument, Iron Hide, Might, MoS, Bolt, Soul Devourer, BoM, BoC - 335

Prince - MoT, Flight, Instrument, Iron Hide, Might, MoS, Bolt, Soul Devourer, BoM, BoC - 335

Prince - MoT, Flight, Instrument, Iron Hide, Might, MoS, Bolt, Soul Devourer, BoM, BoC - 335


6,495

A low one, CD.
Interesting that its almost monp-Tzeetch

And the caravan moves on...the numbers are as follows:

1) Blood Angels: 25716
2) Imperial Guard: 25604
3) Space Wolves: 14310
4) Dark Angels: 13590
5) Space Marines: 12070
6) Orks: 10365
7) Chaos Space Marines: 10255 ( not counting Spawn/Summoned Daemons )
8) Black Templars: 10213
9) Witch Hunters: 10060 ( mono-Codex )
10) Tyranids: 9990
11) Daemon Hunters: 9246 ( mono-Codex )
12) Eldar: 8217
13) Dark Eldar: 7303 ( with Dark Lances )
14) Chaos Daemons: 6495
15) Necrons: 5385

EDIT: Hhmm. Interesting. All the armies at 10K or under are the older pre-5th ones ( Chaos Daemons/Tyranids being the exceptions ).
EDIT 2: Removed "spam" from DE description.
EDIT 3: Ooops. Missed the Nids.

calypso2ts wrote:Are we including allies? If so that SoB list could be several thousand points higher...

Also, Inquisitors cannot take LR's only the Lords can.

What gives you that idea?
Any Inq/Inq Lord can take a retinue (of 0-6 and 3-12 respectivly) and any Inq retinue can take a transport. These transports are Rhino, Chimera and Land Raider.

Why are we accrediting the DE list as 'lance spam'? I've only got 20 lances in it, I could have put in 27 and it would have made the list less points.

If anything it's kinda WWP spam, since I put in 6 (at 50 points a pop) just to sort of increase point totals and justify the footslogging Wych squads.

Thor665 wrote:Why are we accrediting the DE list as 'lance spam'? I've only got 20 lances in it, I could have put in 27 and it would have made the list less points.

If anything it's kinda WWP spam, since I put in 6 (at 50 points a pop) just to sort of increase point totals and justify the footslogging Wych squads.

Well, it was just a convenient short-hand, to differentiate from having a "spam" of the other possible weapon. For the record I do count 20 Dark Lances as "spam", having had the misfortunate of having faced such a force once. It was not pretty .

I´ll change the desciption to just "with Dark Lances" or something.

Thor665 wrote:Why are we accrediting the DE list as 'lance spam'? I've only got 20 lances in it, I could have put in 27 and it would have made the list less points.

If anything it's kinda WWP spam, since I put in 6 (at 50 points a pop) just to sort of increase point totals and justify the footslogging Wych squads.

I think its becuase your list has attempted to be competive (or at least useable), rather than simply getting the most expensive stuff in as possible.

This isn't really Tactics, so I'm moving it to 40K General Discussions.

Now the real challenge: pit any of these lists against each other and finish the game in a standard tournament round

Ratbarf wrote:I would house rule no infinite lists...

Dark Angels

Azrael 225
- Command Squad 2 Plasma Pistols 30, 2 Power Fists 50, 5 Melta Bombs 25, 2 Plasma Guns 30, Apoth 20, Standard 10, Razorback 50, TL Lascannon 30, Extra Armour 15, Hunter Killer Missile 15, Pintle Storm Bolter 5, Dozer Blade 5
615

Sammael Master of the Ravenwing 205
-Landspeeder

Dreadnought 125
-Venerable 20, MLauncher 10, Heavy Flamer 5, TL Lascannon 20, Extra Armour 15, Drop Pod 50
245

Dreadnought 125
-Venerable 20, MLauncher 10, Heavy Flamer 5, TL Lascannon 20, Extra Armour 15, Drop Pod 50
245

Dreadnought 125
-Venerable 20, MLauncher 10, Heavy Flamer 5, TL Lascannon 20, Extra Armour 15, Drop Pod 50
245

Ravenwing Attack Squadron 120
- 3 Bikers 100, Plasma Pistol 15, Meltabombs 5, Powerfist 25, 2 Plasma Guns 30, Attack Bike 50, Landspeeder 100, Apothecary 15, Standard Bearer 25
485

Ravenwing Attack Squadron 120
- 3 Bikers 100, Plasma Pistol 15, Meltabombs 5, Powerfist 25, 2 Plasma Guns 30, Attack Bike 50, Landspeeder 100
445

Ravenwing Attack Squadron 120
- 3 Bikers 100, Plasma Pistol 15, Meltabombs 5, Powerfist 25, 2 Plasma Guns 30, Attack Bike 50, Landspeeder 100
445

Ravenwing Attack Squadron 120
- 3 Bikers 100, Plasma Pistol 15, Meltabombs 5, Powerfist 25, 2 Plasma Guns 30, Attack Bike 50, Landspeeder 100
445

Ravenwing Attack Squadron 120
- 3 Bikers 100, Plasma Pistol 15, Meltabombs 5, Powerfist 25, 2 Plasma Guns 30, Attack Bike 50, Landspeeder 100
445

Ravenwing Attack Squadron 120
- 3 Bikers 100, Plasma Pistol 15, Meltabombs 5, Powerfist 25, 2 Plasma Guns 30, Attack Bike 50, Landspeeder 100
445

Ravenwing Support Squadron 65
- 4 Landspeeders 260, Typhoon Missile Launcher 10, HEavy Flamer 10, Assault Cannon 35
380

Ravenwing Support Squadron 65
- 4 Landspeeders 260, Typhoon Missile Launcher 10, HEavy Flamer 10, Assault Cannon 35
380

Ravenwing Support Squadron 65
- 4 Landspeeders 260, Typhoon Missile Launcher 10, HEavy Flamer 10, Assault Cannon 35
380

Landraider 250
- Storm Bolter 5, HK Missile 15, Extra Armour 15
285

Landraider 250
- Storm Bolter 5, HK Missile 15, Extra Armour 15
285

Landraider 250
- Storm Bolter 5, HK Missile 15, Extra Armour 15
285

6705 Pre Techmarines, I can have 1 Techmarine per non dedicated transport vehicle.

Techmarine 75
- Plasma Pistol 15, Servo-Harness 25, 4 Servitors 100, 4 Plasma Cannons 40
255 x 27 = 6885

Total of 13590 and 109 Plasma Cannons.

This list is false. You can only get Techmarines for Heavy and Elite Vehicle choices. Not Fast Attack

This is the biggest you can get a DA army

Dark Angels:

HQ:
Azrael 225
- Command Squad 2 Plasma Pistols 30, 2 Power Fists 50, 5 Melta Bombs 25, 2 Plasma Guns 30, Apoth 20, Standard 10, Chapter banner 15, Razorback 50, TL Lascannon 30, Extra Armour 15, Hunter Killer Missile 15, Pintle Storm Bolter 5, Dozer Blade 5
630

Sammael - 205pts

Elites:

Vet Sqd (10 man, 3x TH, 10x SS, 10x Melta Bomb, P.gun, Plasma Cannon, Razorback{Storm Bolter, Hunter Killer, Dozer Blade, Extra Armor, TL Las Cannon}) - 595

Vet Sqd (10 man, 3x TH, 10x SS, 10x Melta Bomb, P.gun, Plasma Cannon, Razorback{Storm Bolter, Hunter Killer, Dozer Blade, Extra Armor, TL Las Cannon}) - 595

Vet Sqd (10 man, 3x TH, 10x SS, 10x Melta Bomb, P.gun, Plasma Cannon, Razorback{Storm Bolter, Hunter Killer, Dozer Blade, Extra Armor, TL Las Cannon}) - 595

Troops:

Ravenwing Attack Sqd (6 bikers, A.Bike, Landspeeder, PF, Standard bearer, apoth, 2x P.Gun, P.gun, Melta Bomb) - 485pts

Ravenwing Attack Sqd (6 bikers, A.Bike, Landspeeder, PF, 2x P.Gun, P.gun, Melta Bomb) - 445pts

Ravenwing Attack Sqd (6 bikers, A.Bike, Landspeeder, PF, 2x P.Gun, P.gun, Melta Bomb) - 445pts

Ravenwing Attack Sqd (6 bikers, A.Bike, Landspeeder, PF, 2x P.Gun, P.gun, Melta Bomb) - 445pts

Ravenwing Attack Sqd (6 bikers, A.Bike, Landspeeder, PF, 2x P.Gun, P.gun, Melta Bomb) - 445pts

Ravenwing Attack Sqd (6 bikers, A.Bike, Landspeeder, PF, 2x P.Gun, P.gun, Melta Bomb) - 445pts

Fast Attack:

Ravenwing Attack Sqd (6 bikers, A.Bike, Landspeeder, PF, 2x P.Gun, P.gun, Melta Bomb) - 445pts

Ravenwing Attack Sqd (6 bikers, A.Bike, Landspeeder, PF, 2x P.Gun, P.gun, Melta Bomb) - 445pts

Ravenwing Attack Sqd (6 bikers, A.Bike, Landspeeder, PF, 2x P.Gun, P.gun, Melta Bomb) - 445pts

Heavy:

Dev Squad (10 man, P.Pistol, P.Fist, Melta Bomb, 4xLas Cannons, Razorback{Storm Bolter, Hunter Killer, Dozer Blade, Extra Armor, TL Lascannon}) - 470pts

Dev Squad (10 man, P.Pistol, P.Fist, Melta Bomb, 4xLas Cannons, Razorback{Storm Bolter, Hunter Killer, Dozer Blade, Extra Armor, TL Lascannon}) - 470pts

Dev Squad (10 man, P.Pistol, P.Fist, Melta Bomb, 4xLas Cannons, Razorback{Storm Bolter, Hunter Killer, Dozer Blade, Extra Armor, TL Lascannon}) - 470pts

Pts:8075

Cannerus_The_Unbearable wrote:Now the real challenge: pit any of these lists against each other and finish the game in a standard tournament round

Might be a story idea for an epic Apocalypse match ."So, how many Thunderhammers does your army have? I have 586."

EDIT: Ah, there seems to a challenge to the Dark Angel list. Can we have a third opinion in order to verify the results? Plus, we are still missing the Tau Empire.

Black Antelope wrote:6,495

Interesting... I would've assumed we'd do better than that, but apparently I was wrong. I suppose the max squad sizes are smaller than many other codexes', and we don't have dedicated transports to squeeze extra points out with.
I wouldn't want to try playing this army. Trying to DS 6 20-strong units of horrors and 3 20-strong units of seekers onto any table I've ever seen 40K played on would just be an exercise in rolling mishaps. ("Okay, if I put them here, there'll be enough space between this building and that one that none of the seekers will end up on a wall. And... scatter 2" into a wall. Mishap roll... and then next unit of seekers...")

A-P wrote:

Cannerus_The_Unbearable wrote:Now the real challenge: pit any of these lists against each other and finish the game in a standard tournament round

Might be a story idea for an epic Apocalypse match ."So, how many Thunderhammers does your army have? I have 586."

EDIT: Ah, there seems to a challenge to the Dark Angel list. Can we have a third opinion in order to verify the results? Plus, we are still missing the Tau Empire.

One thing, IIRC, Apoc let's you take anything.

Therefore, I would take about 1000 dreads, 200,000,000 LRs, and enough Assault Termies with TH/SS to make Chuck Norris cry.

JSK-Fox wrote:

One thing, IIRC, Apoc let's you take anything.

Therefore, I would take about 1000 dreads, 200,000,000 LRs, and enough Assault Termies with TH/SS to make Chuck Norris cry.

Sure you can take almost anything in Apoc but that was not the point here. The idea was to pitch these fully fleshed FOCs against each other.

I will try Tau later tonight once I get my codex and Army builder, But I don't think it will be very high.

Heres what I came up with for Tau.

HQ:
Aun'Va
2 Honor Guard Squads w/ all options
930

Battlesuit Commander
AFP, CIB, Shield Gen, 2 Marker Drones, Iridium Armor, Failsafe Detonator, HW Multi tracker
Bodyguard x2
Each w/ TL Plasma Rifle, Shield Generator, 2 Marker Drones, BK, HWMT, HWTL, HWBSF, 1 Stim, 1 ejection
581

Elite:
Crisis Suit Team
All w/ TL PLasma Rifle, Shield Generator, 2 Marker Drones
Shas'vre w/ BK, HWMT, HWTL, HWBSF
313

Crisis Suit Team
All w/ TL PLasma Rifle, Shield Generator, 2 Marker Drones
Shas'vre w/ BK, HWMT, HWTL, HWBSF
313

Crisis Suit Team
All w/ TL PLasma Rifle, Shield Generator, 2 Marker Drones
Shas'vre w/ BK, HWMT, HWTL, HWBSF
313

Troops:
Fire Warriors w/ both grenades
Shas'ui w/ Markerlight, all wargear
Devilfish w/ SMS, all possible vehicle wargear
441

Fire Warriors w/ both grenades
Shas'ui w/ Markerlight, all wargear
Devilfish w/ SMS, all possible vehicle wargear
441

Fire Warriors w/ both grenades
Shas'ui w/ Markerlight, all wargear
Devilfish w/ SMS, all possible vehicle wargear
441

Fire Warriors w/ both grenades
Shas'ui w/ Markerlight, all wargear
Devilfish w/ SMS, all possible vehicle wargear
441

Fire Warriors w/ both grenades
Shas'ui w/ Markerlight, all wargear
Devilfish w/ SMS, all possible vehicle wargear
441

Fire Warriors w/ both grenades
Shas'ui w/ Markerlight, all wargear
Devilfish w/ SMS, all possible vehicle wargear
441

Fast Attack:
Piranha Squadron
All w/ Fusion Blaster and all possible wargear
650

Piranha Squadron
All w/ Fusion Blaster and all possible wargear
650

Piranha Squadron
All w/ Fusion Blaster and all possible wargear
650

Heavy Support:
Broadside Squad
All w/ TL Plasma Rifle, Shield Generator
Shas'vre w/ all possible wargear
248

Broadside Squad
All w/ TL Plasma Rifle, Shield Generator
Shas'vre w/ all possible wargear
248

Broadside Squad
All w/ TL Plasma Rifle, Shield Generator
Shas'vre w/ all possible wargear
248

Total: 7790

Feel free to check my math and call out anything I missed. I tried with Farsight and 2 standard commanders, but this was the most expensive.

Sorry Cobra, but both your Elites and HS are too small:

I get:

Elite:
Stealthsuits (5) - 2 FB, 5 DC, 10 Marker Drones
Shas'vre (1) - All Wargear, Shield Gen, 2 Marker Drones
Total - 602

and

Heavy:
Broadsides (2) - 2 TLPR, 2 DC, 4 Marker Drones
Shas'vre (1) - All Wargear, Shield Gen, 2 Marker Drones
Total - 468

Your Troops are too big:
With your build, I get it to be 381p

This can be increased to:
Fire Warriors (9) - EMP, Photon
Shas'ui (1) - All Wargear, 2 Marker Drones
Devilfish - SMS, 2 Seekers, All Wargear
Total - 413


I don't think Au'Va can take Honour Guard squads, just the 2 models already in his points cost. (At least Army Builder says he cannot).

If thats right, the Ethereal maxes out at:

Ethereal (1) - Honour Blade, EMP, All Wargear, 2 Marker Drones
FWH (6) - EMP, Photon
Shas'ui (1) - All Wargear, 2 Marker Drones
Devilfish - SMS, 2 Seekers, All Wargear
Total - 526


I make the new total (assuming I'm right) to be 8,745

Figured I'd make some mistakes somewhere, I can't believed I completely overlooked Stealth Suits.
I misread Aun'Va's honor guard as honor guard SQUADS, woops.
I think I'm right on the troops though, your squad there only has 10 men, it should have 12.
Same with your Honor Guard, you only have 7?
I get 606 for that unit, making it more expensive than a second commander+Bodyguard.
So I see:
Battlesuit Commander + Bodyguard w/ as much as possible
556

Ethereal + Honor Guard w/ everything
606

Elites:
3 of your stealth units @602
1806

Troops:
6 FW squads from my list @441 each
2646

FA:
3 Piranha Squads @ 650 each
1950

HS:
3 Broadside squads @ 468 each
1404

Brings the total up to 8968 (I think).

Hey, Tau players, don't forget about Farsight and his Bodyguard. I'm too tired to do the math myself.

OK, a cup of coffee to get the system started. So the current situation is:

1) Blood Angels: 25716
2) Imperial Guard: 25604
3) Space Wolves: 14310
4) Dark Angels: 13590 ( this result has been challenged, please verify if possible )
5) Space Marines: 12070
6) Orks: 10365
7) Chaos Space Marines: 10255 ( not counting Spawn/Summoned Daemons )
8) Black Templars: 10213
9) Witch Hunters: 10060 ( mono-Codex )
10) Tyranids: 9990
11) Daemon Hunters: 9246 ( mono-Codex )
12) Tau Empire: 8968
13) Eldar: 8217
14) Dark Eldar: 7303 ( absolute maximum can go higher since this version was based on Dark Lances )
15) Chaos Daemons: 6495
16) Necrons: 5385

Tyranids:
Hive Tyrant with wings, adrenal glands, toxin sacs, acid blood, implant attack, toxic miasma, regeneration, twin-linked devourer, heavy venom cannon, hive commander, indescribable horror, old adversary....430 points

Hive Tyrant with wings, adrenal glands, toxin sacs, acid blood, implant attack, toxic miasma, regeneration, twin-linked devourer, heavy venom cannon, hive commander, indescribable horror, old adversary....430 points

3 Tyrant Guard with Boneswords...215 points

3 Tyrant Guard with Boneswords...215 points

HQ: 1290 points

10 Ymarl Genestealers...230 points

10 Ymarl Genestealers...230 points

10 Ymarl Genestealers...230 points

Elites: 690 points

30 Termagants with3 stranglewebs, devourers, adrenal glands and toxin sacs...390 points

30 Termagants with3 stranglewebs, devourers, adrenal glands and toxin sacs...390 points

30 Termagants with3 stranglewebs, devourers, adrenal glands and toxin sacs...390 points

30 Termagants with3 stranglewebs, devourers, adrenal glands and toxin sacs...390 points

30 Termagants with3 stranglewebs, devourers, adrenal glands and toxin sacs...390 points

30 Termagants with3 stranglewebs, devourers, adrenal glands and toxin sacs...390 points

Troops: 2340 points

30 Gargoyles with toxin sacs and adrenal glands...240

30 Gargoyles with toxin sacs and adrenal glands...240

30 Gargoyles with toxin sacs and adrenal glands...240

Fast Attack: 720 points

3 Carnifexes with Crushing Claws, Heavy Venom Cannons, Frag Spines, Adrenal Glands, Toxin sacs, Bio-plasma, Regeneration...840

3 Carnifexes with Crushing Claws, Heavy Venom Cannons, Frag Spines, Adrenal Glands, Toxin sacs, Bio-plasma, Regeneration...840

3 Carnifexes with Crushing Claws, Heavy Venom Cannons, Frag Spines, Adrenal Glands, Toxin sacs, Bio-plasma, Regeneration...840

Heavy Support: 2520

Total Points: 7560

Total Models: 317 Models

I'm going to check on that other 'nid list, I don't know how many points it has.


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ductvader wrote:
9990

3 Hive Tyrants with TL deathspitter and heavy venom cannons
9 Tyrant Guard boneswords
9 Zoanthropes
3 Mycetic spores with venom cannons
54 lashwhip/bonesword deathspitter warriors
6 venom cannon warriors
27 Raveners with deathspitters and rending claws
9 Carnifexes with heavy venom cannons and TL deathspitters

All biomorphs taken, all upgrades taken

3 Hive Tyrants?

So you Should have:

Hive Tyrant with TL deathspitter and Heavy Venom Cannon...210 points

Hive Tyrant with TL deathspitter and Heavy Venom Cannon...210 points

3 Tyrant Guard with Boneswords...225

3 Tyrant Guard with Boneswords...225

3 Zoenthropes...180

3 Zoenthropes...180

3 Zoenthropes...180

Mycetic Spore w/ Venom Cannon...60 points

Mycetic Spore w/ Venom Cannon...60 points

Mycetic Spore w/ Venom Cannon...60 points

9 Tyranid Warriors with Deathspitters and one Venom Cannon...340

9 Tyranid Warriors with Deathspitters and one Venom Cannon...340

9 Tyranid Warriors with Deathspitters and one Venom Cannon...340

9 Tyranid Warriors with Deathspitters and one Venom Cannon...340

9 Tyranid Warriors with Deathspitters and one Venom Cannon...340

9 Tyranid Warriors with Deathspitters and one Venom Cannon...340

9 Raveners with Deathspitters and Rending Claws...405

9 Raveners with Deathspitters and Rending Claws...405

9 Raveners with Deathspitters and Rending Claws...405

3 Carnifexes with TL Deathspitters and Heavy Venom Cannons...600

3 Carnifexes with TL Deathspitters and Heavy Venom Cannons...600

3 Carnifexes with TL Deathspitters and Heavy Venom Cannons...600

Total Points: 6625, which you should've bumped with upgrades. Also, you can get Spods for the warriors.

I'm sure CSm can get bigger than that. For one thing Ahriman is not the next most expensive HQ, a fully decked ourt Sorcerer can come in at 275+.

I will have a look later tonight and attempt to wow you all.

DarkHound wrote:Hey, Tau players, don't forget about Farsight and his Bodyguard. I'm too tired to do the math myself.

I tried it.
His retinue gets expensive but the way he limits the rest of the FOC really cuts down the points. You can't just spam the most expensive squad in each section.
I'll have a look at tyranids once I actually wake up

Crimson Cobra wrote:Figured I'd make some mistakes somewhere, I can't believed I completely overlooked Stealth Suits.
I misread Aun'Va's honor guard as honor guard SQUADS, woops.
I think I'm right on the troops though, your squad there only has 10 men, it should have 12.
Same with your Honor Guard, you only have 7?
I get 606 for that unit, making it more expensive than a second commander+Bodyguard.
So I see:
Battlesuit Commander + Bodyguard w/ as much as possible
556

Ethereal + Honor Guard w/ everything
606

Elites:
3 of your stealth units @602
1806

Troops:
6 FW squads from my list @441 each
2646

FA:
3 Piranha Squads @ 650 each
1950

HS:
3 Broadside squads @ 468 each
1404

Brings the total up to 8968 (I think).

No, you cannot exceed 12 models in total in any squad that has a 'fish in it, as Tau is one of the older 'dexs (like WH/DH) where you cannot buy a transport you cannot fit into. Thats why the squads are smaller, as MarkerDrones are worth more than FWs.

Ahh you got me, maybe I'll do better with 'nids.

HQ: 1310
Tyrant w/ Heavy Venom Cannon, TL Deathspitter, Hive Commander, Indescribable Horror, Old Adversary, Adrenal Glands, Toxin Sacs, Acid Blood, Implant Attack, Toxic Miasma, Regeneration, Wings
3 Tyrant Guard w/ Boneswords
655

Tyrant w/ Heavy Venom Cannon, TL Deathspitter, Hive Commander, Indescribable Horror, Old Adversary, Adrenal Glands, Toxin Sacs, Acid Blood, Implant Attack, Toxic Miasma, Regeneration, Wings
3 Tyrant Guard w/ Boneswords
655

Elite: 720
3 Zoanthropes in Spore Pod w/ Venom Cannon
240

3 Zoanthropes in Spore Pod w/ Venom Cannon
240

3 Zoanthropes in Spore Pod w/ Venom Cannon
240

Troops: 3660
9 Warriors w/ Lash Whips and Boneswords, 8 Deathspitters, 1 Venom Cannon, Adrenal Glands, Toxin Sacs in Spore Pod w/ Venom Cannon
610

9 Warriors w/ Lash Whips and Boneswords, 8 Deathspitters, 1 Venom Cannon, Adrenal Glands, Toxin Sacs in Spore Pod w/ Venom Cannon
610

9 Warriors w/ Lash Whips and Boneswords, 8 Deathspitters, 1 Venom Cannon, Adrenal Glands, Toxin Sacs in Spore Pod w/ Venom Cannon
610

9 Warriors w/ Lash Whips and Boneswords, 8 Deathspitters, 1 Venom Cannon, Adrenal Glands, Toxin Sacs in Spore Pod w/ Venom Cannon
610

9 Warriors w/ Lash Whips and Boneswords, 8 Deathspitters, 1 Venom Cannon, Adrenal Glands, Toxin Sacs in Spore Pod w/ Venom Cannon
610

9 Warriors w/ Lash Whips and Boneswords, 8 Deathspitters, 1 Venom Cannon, Adrenal Glands, Toxin Sacs in Spore Pod w/ Venom Cannon
610

FA: 1755
9 Shrikes w/ Rending Claws, Lash Whips and Boneswords, Adrenal Glands, Toxin Sacs
585

9 Shrikes w/ Rending Claws, Lash Whips and Boneswords, Adrenal Glands, Toxin Sacs
585

9 Shrikes w/ Rending Claws, Lash Whips and Boneswords, Adrenal Glands, Toxin Sacs
585

HS: 2520
3 Carnifex w/ Crushing Claws, Heavy Venom Cannons, Frag Spines, Adrenal Glands, Toxin Sacs, Bio-plasma, Regeneratiion
840

3 Carnifex w/ Crushing Claws, Heavy Venom Cannons, Frag Spines, Adrenal Glands, Toxin Sacs, Bio-plasma, Regeneratiion
840

3 Carnifex w/ Crushing Claws, Heavy Venom Cannons, Frag Spines, Adrenal Glands, Toxin Sacs, Bio-plasma, Regeneratiion
840

That brings the grand total to 9965.
Again, feel free to check the list (because apparently I fail at this lol).
If it's true, I'm somewhat ashamed that 'nids are the only 5th edition that can't break 10,000 points.

I'd love to see the BA army fight the Guard army, it would take some doing...

Just as long as the BA player sang the whole of 'Can't touch this' while they were playing. Stop... Hammertime!

By my reckoning, the cost of the BA army would come to £1'345 if you were to buy each squad indervidually. You would also need to shell out an extra £640 pounds for the Thunder hammers, based on the fact TH are not included on the DC sprue.

This brings the combined total to £1'985, or $3'054.92, based on a google conversion.