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**BrookM**

Deleted by modqusiitor Frazzled. This is not appropriate on Dakka.

**leejerrum**

"Get your affairs in order" is a well known euphemism for "You are going to die". When Funeral Houses, Will Attorneys and Doctors ask the question "Are your affairs in order" they aren't talking about sponsors or cash flow. They are talking about Wills, Funeral Plots and Estates. They are talking about death and you know it, I know it, and everyone reading this knows it.

Not this side of the pond mate. To me that means "make sure the missus doesn't find out you're smashing the neighbour".

I'd say bringing up your wife's recent miscarriage and making death threats are a little more serious than telling you to play 40K better. There's thick skin and there's turning a blind eye to personal, serious attacks. While I don't know Spencer from Adam if a hobby ever got to where lives and family were being attacked... I think he did the right thing.

Wait a minute....

Was there any need to publicise the email? As a forum admin I've had some slowed hate mail. Funny hate mail and pathetic hate mail. Here's what I do... I send them my address.

As another poster said, grow a thicker skin or take it up with the authorities, not share it with wargamers.

I think just removing yourself from the situation is more time and cost effective. If anyone is throwing a tantrum it's the person making the threats and insults.

You actually believe it costs them money to run the show?!!

**Flachzange**

evilsponge wrote:it added to the community in a positive way? I felt pretty embarrassed knowing I had something in common with them.

Good for you. And you are absolutely entitled to your own opinion. However, so is everybody else, and some people actually enjoyed the show.

**Shaman**

Get your affairs in order is the threat part?!?

OMG hahaha

Like leejerrum, to me that was talking about the household.. not funerals..

Crazy americans.

**skrulnik**

Flachzange wrote:
evilsponge wrote:it added to the community in a positive way? I felt pretty embarrassed knowing I had something in common with them.

Good for you. And you are absolutely entitled to your own opinion. However, so is everybody else, and some people actually enjoyed the show.

Not to mention all the GW and Black Library guys that actually did the show.

**Cane**

Gotta feel sorry for the people who paid for the podcast and/or got 40k Radio tattoo's...

**Aldonis**

Well - sad day for our hobby. Love em or hate em - 40K Radio did work HARD to promote our hobby and bring us free entertainment. I'll personally miss them.

The comments to Spencer personally were totally off base and over the line. Unfortunately Spencer probably did more harm than good by publicizing them - I'm sure it was all for attention anyway.

Seems like they've had some internal issues building for a long time - first Phil, then the Jar-Jar N word fiasco, then firing Chipley and Scott and bringing back Jar-Jar. Maybe it was just getting to stressful.

Regardless - nothing but the best for all the 40K radio hosts past and present. Thanks for the fun topics over the years.

**leejerrum**

RogueMarket wrote:Phil left for a reason.

All I'm going to say.

Clearly you want to say more....

I'm called Tripod by my mates... for a reason. All I'm going to say.

**skrulnik**

Cane wrote: Bringing back Jar Jar was a move in desperation and Spencer knew of the controversy regarding him; not much sympathy for lifting a lifetime ban and then again him trying to cop-out with the "second chance" nonsense when its really because he has no other hosts to call upon...

snipped for brevity.

JarJar was on the episode previously that Spencer was not on. The lift of the ban was already happening.

So if your view is truth, he would have been planning to get rid of the other guys.

**leejerrum**

I think the constant upheaval with the rest of the hosts is caused by profit.

Oh why I have your attention I recently did a War movie with Sean Bean and Danny Dyer.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1590950/

Check it out. http://www.heresy-online.net/miscellaneous/my-time-on-the-age-of-heroes-movie/

Can I be a prima donna too?

**Cane**

skrulnik wrote:
Cane wrote: Bringing back Jar Jar was a move in desperation and Spencer knew of the controversy regarding him; not much sympathy for lifting a lifetime ban and then again him trying to cop-out with the "second chance" nonsense when its really because he has no other hosts to call upon...

snipped for brevity.

JarJar was on the episode previously that Spencer was not on. The lift of the ban was already happening.

So if your view is truth, he would have been planning to get rid of the other guys.

Seems like they were on their way out because Spencer started to get mad at their lack of 40k playtime. They also started to really piss him off with that whole "you didn't paint your army" thing a while back but I'm not sure if that has had much of an affect:

Spencer wrote:

NEVER ONCE did I say that they were no longer needed. Scott is taking the bitch route here and does not have the balls to argue with someone without turning it into something more than it is.
He is quitting. I just said in last nights show that we need him on the show. I sent out an email trying to make this show better and the result is that Scott took his toys and went home.

I have not removed either of their email or forum access. And did not plan to.

I was asking for help and my “friends” or so I thought they were, bailed on me.

No no. this will be kept open.
Scott wanted to air the dirty laundry. Now he can be man enough to stand up and handle this.

n a nut shell it comes down to this. Lack of playing the game. Scott and Chipley have not played a game of 40K……. well for at least 6 months. I have been harping on them to play the game. How can you talk about it if you never play? Each time I brought it up there were promises to play but nothing happened. So I gave them a one show suspenstion, to really bring home the fact that you have to play this game to be on a podcast about it.
I gave them options, such as being on every other show, to allow room for playing. But Scott did not want that option, he thru a hissy fit and quit the show. I gave Scott the option to come on for one last show to say good bye and he declined that offer, which further pissed me off because I feel that you guys deserve that. that to me shows a blatnet disrespect to the fans of this show.
Again I did not force him off the show. But I did give him the ultimatium, play or leave. And he chose to leave.

More @ http://bloodofkittens.com/?p=3444

Spencer seems like an attention whoring asshat that just won't ever take blame without making you feel sorry for it...but he was entertaining on 40k Radio. He just doesn't handle negativity well and with what he's been going through...definitely doesn't help when it comes to making decisions. All of this seems like heat of the moment kind of stuff and stinks of cop-out.

It was good while it lasted, thanks for all the fish.

**racingtowardsfate**

Personally i see nothing wrong with using a racial slur, I see something wrong when there is a big deal made about using that racial slur is consider such a big deal while homophobic slurs and insults about retardation are given carte Blanche.

The hate mail towards jar jar is ironic with its hypocrisy calling him out for his insensitivity for using racist terms and calling him a cracker, a racist derogatory term used against white people. So essentially all his detractors are just the same as him if not worse.

It was a good show while it lasted, it gave money to charity and worthy causes created a community and helped expand knowledge of the hobby in general not to say it was without faults but it added more positivity to the universe than negativity which in the end i think is something we all want to achieve.

**skrulnik**

So the speculation that it was because of the announcement of the loss of the baby was just that, speculation.

Generally I don't care what happens behind the scenes of my entertainment.

But these are just regular 40k players that decided to spend their time to share with the rest of us what they thought.

Any feeling of celebrity they got, we listeners gave them, and from some of the callins I heard encouraged.

I really feel that if people are going to throw the info out there, the truth, or at least enough sides of the story need to get out there.

**RogueMarket**

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**Valhallan42nd**

RogueMarket wrote:
3. One of my friends was friends with Phil. Was told that Phil left due to Spencer - also due to money handling all to Spencer.

Some even went as far and claimed that 40kRadio is registered a Non-Profit. Who knows. Could be a rumor.

So, hearsay.

**RogueMarket**

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**Sharpasaspoon**

What I don't understand is if it's a podcast why wasn't the N word deleted?

**RogueMarket**

Sharpasaspoon wrote:What I don't understand is if it's a podcast why wasn't the N word deleted?

To my knowledge it has been, for many months now.

People have stretched the event to this far.

**Valhallan42nd**

And he's got his own podcast, and has opened his own store as well.

Speculation helps no one. People leave good projects all the time for their own personal reasons. Spencer and Phil had a personal disagreement that led to their separation. That's all we'll likely know.

**RogueMarket**

Valhallan42nd wrote:And he's got his own podcast, and has opened his own store as well.

Speculation helps no one. People leave good projects all the time for their own personal reasons. Spencer and Phil had a personal disagreement that led to their separation. That's all we'll likely know.

QFT you are right.

**asugradinwa**

I commend 40k radio for the charity work & promotion of the hobby.

However, with the amount of slurs and other homophobic behavior that I listened to I'm glad 40kradio is done.

Also, after making SUCH a big deal about the banning of Jar Jar for LIFE I find it pretty dumb that the guy was back on a show less then 6 months later.

Either way, no one should make threats or trample on another's loss.

Now I'll have to figure out where else I can listen to a person with poor rules comprehension read entries out of the codex.

**leejerrum**

I'm left with the impression that Cohosts aren't getting paid or paid to the extent they play a part to the community.

Thats my thinking

Just didn't want to say it!

Did I mention that I did a war film...

**Samwise158**

In response,

The n-word is just a word, but it is a loaded word that causes intense emotional reactions among many people. It doesn't make any sense to introduce it into a minatures podcast. That reflects very poor judgement, something that a public speaker must avoid if they wish to retain the ears and the respect of those listening to them.

Rush Limbaugh clearly has squandered that respect multiple times. He got canned without a second chance from ESPN for implying that Donovan McNabb was not intelligent enough to be a quarterback because he is black. Putting him on ESPN in the first place was probably a bad idea anyway, given his track record.

He still has a radio show because his style of rhetoric appeals to some people. Unlike Rush, 40K radio was a solid show in a lot of respects, and I did enjoy it. The marathon for charity makes sense, and it really is an accomplishment to put on a show period.

It just sounds like things got a bit toxic for a lot of the key people involved, so in that case why not disband, regroup, and try it again in a new format after learning from one's mistakes?

**Agamemnon2**

With all the accusations and suchlike flying around, I can't help wondering if the attack that caused the final shutdown is even genuine, or just a manufactured outrage that lets Spencer shut everything down under a pretense.

Which is a tremendously cynical thought, even by my standards.

**CatPeeler**

I don't know any of the principals involved personally... but my impression of the situation is that Spencer had no idea that firing S & C would blow up in his face the way it did. To all appearances, he acted rashly and then got slapped down *hard* by the vast majority of his audience.

The email that has 'triggered' his ending of the show strikes me as a way for him to say, "I didn't sign on for THIS," and hit the parachute cord. I.e., if the show is 'over,' then he can just pick up his ball and go home as the injured party.

Does this excuse or in any way condone the donkey-cave that wrote the email in question? Of course not.

It does, however, strike me as a reaction far out of scale to an email.

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Ahhh--ninja'd!

**Lorek**

Any further personal attacks on anyone in this thread will result in a temporary suspension (sorry CatPeeler, this isn't directed at you; you're just the post above mine).

Just because people aren't posters here doesn't mean that you can violate the Dakka rules. I don't have a dog in this fight, but save the vitriol for your friends or other forums.

**12thRonin**

Agamemnon2 wrote:With all the accusations and suchlike flying around, I can't help wondering if the attack that caused the final shutdown is even genuine, or just a manufactured outrage that lets Spencer shut everything down under a pretense.

Which is a tremendously cynical thought, even by my standards.

You know, I had wondered the exact same thing with it just happening to be sourced from a guy who sponsored eps of DLT. Get out of it and take the "competition " out with you.

**oni**

leejerrum wrote:
I'm left with the impression that Cohosts aren't getting paid or paid to the extent they play a part to the community.

Thats my thinking Just didn't want to say it!

Paid?

While I can't say for certain, I believe all of the 'profit' 40K Radio made was spent on paying their way for conventions and other hobby related trips, like their trip to Warhammer World.

**leejerrum**

Lorek wrote:Any further personal attacks on anyone in this thread will result in a temporary suspension (sorry CatPeeler, this isn't directed at you; you're just the post above mine).

Just because people aren't posters here doesn't mean that you can violate the Dakka rules. I don't have a dog in this fight, but save the vitriol for your friends or other forums.

I haven't noticed a single personal attack in this thread. Saying someone "seems" like an asshat isn't calling them an asshat.

**MeanGreenStompa**

Say whatever else about 'the drama', the vile comments about the loss of a child, directed to a man who's wife has recently miscarried, were entirely despicable. They are of a magnitude and cruelty entirely beyond the scope of arguing about a toy themed podcast.