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I don't see much wrong with the current flip top. 1,000x's better than the previous screw on. Whoever thought plastic screwing onto pvc was a good thing was a moron.

I very rarely use Citadel paints though. I prefer their metallics to everyone else's though and the washes are the best washes I've ever used (as far as premixed).

I guess I'll judge the new paint pots when/if I get a chance to use them.

Demogerg wrote:The company that produced the white-top paints is still around operating under a different name, my FLGS stocks their full range... Coat d'arms, I'm working on collecting their full catalog now.

The same company also makes PP's P3 paints.

I too have about half a dozen white top GW paints. They've never dried out like my more recent GW purchases. All my paint purchases over the last couple of years have been Vallejo and P3.

I like the regular pots were you can stack them.

Kroothawk wrote:1.) Personally I also like the current Citadel pots best, as you can easily take paint from the lid and colours do't dry out so often.
2.) A GW man told me that most people misinterpret the pin at the lid: It is meant as a stopper, not to keep the lid horizontal. You are not supposed to take the paint from the lid. So the spill of paint is caused by a non-intended use of the pot.
3.) Vallejo's Game Colour is a shameless copy of the GW Citadel colour range with all names as close as you can get. Still, Vallejo colours are a bit different, a.o. having more pigments and not so convincing metals.

Yeah shameless insofar as the yellows actually cover Their new foundation like range is supposed to be good too from what I read.

I will echo other comments here, GW has some good colors and great washes. I like many of their foundation colors and haven't found anything comparable to GW's 'blood red,' and think their metallics are the best I've used so far.

That being said I have been really liking Vallejo's dropper bottle set-up and the fact that many of their colors are GW clones so there's no problem jumping back and forth and being able to accurately measure drops of color to water/additive is excellent.

As far as the pots are concerned the newer GW Foundation and wash pots, that are clearly the basis for these other new ones, are imho the worst pots from GW (besides the awful screwed top ones before the current ones.)

Clear lid, nice, but I always just put a blob of paint on the top of the pot anyway because I generally prime black and so you can get a pretty accurate representation of the true color of dried paint over a black field, so clear is cool but unnecessary.

As long as the colors stay the same I don't really care, since their are few colors I buy from GW nowadays anyway.

tends to cake around the ring.

Cakes around the ring!?!
Sounds like a bad case of Baker's Bum. Should get yourself off to the quacks' mate.

Don't mind either pots and the contents seem to work fine.
Metallics are excellent. Whites and yellows are the most opaque I have come across so far.

Agree that clear lids will be a boon. Be nice not to have to paint the lid for easy ID

Kroothawk wrote:1.) Personally I also like the current Citadel pots best, as you can easily take paint from the lid and colours do't dry out so often.
2.) A GW man told me that most people misinterpret the pin at the lid: It is meant as a stopper, not to keep the lid horizontal. You are not supposed to take the paint from the lid. So the spill of paint is caused by a non-intended use of the pot.
3.) Vallejo's Game Colour is a shameless copy of the GW Citadel colour range with all names as close as you can get. Still, Vallejo colours are a bit different, a.o. having more pigments and not so convincing metals.

....what?

You're NOT supposed to paint from that lid-thing? How the hell do you expect me to dip my brush all the way into the pot without it coming out covered in paint???What the heck is that thing even there for?Why am I getting so angry about this??

*I dont have any particular dislike for transparent bottles. Aslong as the tab between the bottle and the lid is sturdier , im fine with it.
As of now , all the main colors of foundation paint bottle of mine are all broken. And there are also always rings of dry paint around the mouth
of the bottle.

*its not we eat / drink paint. Some of us use our lips to shape our brushes. So if its toxic , there are some concerns.

LunaHound wrote:

*its not we eat / drink paint. Some of us use our lips to shape our brushes. So if its toxic , there are some concerns.

Totally, I usually just do this. Your avatar is somewhat of a threat to me..I keep thinking you're some totally hot chick or something...wierd.

I've already begun my move to Vallejo, and until GW goes to dropper style pots with quality in line with Vallejo, I'll stay away from them. GW's blacklids had a history of drying way too fast, and they lack the precision of the eyedropper lids. Not to mention they had less paint (although they do a good job of looking like they'd hold more).

I'd imagine these new pots will have even less paint, either that or a marked increase in price.

Least we not forget the stupid foundation paints, and soon to be all paints, are a pain in the arse to get in those racks. You have to "play" with the pots a little bit. annoying.

You're NOT supposed to paint from that lid-thing? How the hell do you expect me to dip my brush all the way into the pot without it coming out covered in paint???What the heck is that thing even there for?

It is amazingly simple
or use a palette

no idea what that is for- maybe to help any paint run back down into the pot?

Samus_aran115 wrote:

LunaHound wrote:

*its not we eat / drink paint. Some of us use our lips to shape our brushes. So if its toxic , there are some concerns.

Totally, I usually just do this. Your avatar is somewhat of a threat to me..I keep thinking you're some totally hot chick or something...wierd.

Furries, Samus. Just don't go into it.

Chibi Bodge-Battle wrote:

You're NOT supposed to paint from that lid-thing? How the hell do you expect me to dip my brush all the way into the pot without it coming out covered in paint???What the heck is that thing even there for?

It is amazingly simple
or use a palette

no idea what that is for- maybe to help any paint run back down into the pot?

Yeah,but then you lose paint in the process,you've gotta clean the damn pallete,you've gotta use the exact amount of paint you need,you've gotta hold the pallete. How much do you expect me to do????!!!

lol.

Karon wrote:

Samus_aran115 wrote:

LunaHound wrote:

*its not we eat / drink paint. Some of us use our lips to shape our brushes. So if its toxic , there are some concerns.

Totally, I usually just do this. Your avatar is somewhat of a threat to me..I keep thinking you're some totally hot chick or something...wierd.

Furries, Samus. Just don't go into it.

Egads,I hardly noticed the cat ears. Gross,well..maybe...Damn you furries and your poisonous influence. I've already lost 2 friends to the temptations of the furry flesh!

George Spiggott wrote:No change to the actual paint? Just less paint for more cash right?

Pots changing, and that's it. No change in the colour, the price or the volume.

Expect to see them as stocks of the current pots expire.

Anyone else notice that GW changed their Super glue? I hate them for that. I know the brush is better,but Geezus, you get less than 1/4 of the super glue that came in the old tube! I actually prefer the messy nozel, as it's much better for metal models. You'll never be able to get metal models (like the daemon prince or example) together now!

Tube? Superglue in a tube?

We've had the brush bottles for years in the UK, and it never came in a tube. Didn't know anywhere else had different!

Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:Tube? Superglue in a tube?

We've had the brush bottles for years in the UK, and it never came in a tube. Didn't know anywhere else had different!

0_o

Really? I just looked at the label, and it says : Made by Adhesive Systems Inc., Frankfurt IL For Games Workshop, Glen Burnie Maryland

So I guess it's a local thing then? Anyone else have this stuff? It's got a picture of a red orc on the label. Huh

In the UK, it's a pretty plain bottle.

Plaggy Glue comes in a chunkier bottle, and is seriously good at what it is (better than the old brush bottle plaggy by a country mile, once you've figured out the dropper!)

Guys without trying to sound selly at all.

GW Superglue has to be the most expensive glue per gram.. there are some great value and more useful variations of super glues available out there.

Oh and the new pots are already arriving in retail. We have some.

I find GW's superglue too weak for sticking stuff together, maybe glazing greenstuff so it cures faster, but not for sticking stuff together. I use a brand that I can't remember the name of (it comes in those triangluler things which hurt to get the glue out, painful, but worth it)

Back on topic, I personally don't mind if there is a very small amount of lead in the paints even if I do lick the brush from time to time. The Romans used lead pipiing for water and still managed to survive quite well.

rich1231 wrote:Guys without trying to sound selly at all.

GW Superglue has to be the most expensive glue per gram.. there are some great value and more useful variations of super glues available out there.

Oh and the new pots are already arriving in retail. We have some.

Not really sure what you're talking about there. It's not the cheapest,but it's certainly not the most expensive. You get an ounce of this liquid gold for 8 bucks. Their plastic glue is roughly the same for 6 dollars.

Not very expensive,considering an ounce of superglue has lasted me through 3 battleforces and multiple tanks. AND I'm barely halfway through the bottle. Well worth the money. No idea what your talking about bub.




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Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:In the UK, it's a pretty plain bottle.

Plaggy Glue comes in a chunkier bottle, and is seriously good at what it is (better than the old brush bottle plaggy by a country mile, once you've figured out the dropper!)

Yeah, our super glue is exactly like that. I just call it a tube because that's the most apt word for it. It's almost the same bottle.

My super glue of choice. $6 for 4oz bottle and strongest bonding super glue I've ever used.

does Vallejo make washes and foundations like GW does, those are the main colors I use when painting but if i can find them for cheaper I am in. I also have not had much trouble with paints from GW drying out asides from a few pots that my little sister left open.

Maj Kolbak

Fateweaver wrote:

My super glue of choice. $6 for 4oz bottle and strongest bonding super glue I've ever used.

..What? No way that's 4 oz. There's definitely more in my bottle,unless that bottle is 6 inches tall or something...

Besides,I prefer a looser bond. I'm constantly converting and repainting stuff, so being able to snap off the pieces without to much fuss is desirable. Not sure if anyone else is like me, but I could care less if some dude's arm comes off in the car. I'll just redo it later.

Oh,and contrary to what you say,that's a 0.71 OZ. bottle. I can read it from here.

4oz. Stamped on the bottle itself. I know, I bought one a week ago.

That's where we differ. When I glue stuff I don't want it to ever break, hence I use plastic glue for plastics, Loctite for metals and epoxy glue for resin.

If I need to change a guys weapons I'll just buy a new model (or if I can I'll magnetize).

Samus... you are been sarcastic right?

Im abit confused....

Fateweaver wrote:4oz. Stamped on the bottle itself. I know, I bought one a week ago.

That's where we differ. When I glue stuff I don't want it to ever break, hence I use plastic glue for plastics, Loctite for metals and epoxy glue for resin.

If I need to change a guys weapons I'll just buy a new model (or if I can I'll magnetize).

Alright. I see your point.
Don't understand how it's possible that that tiny bottle is four ounces though... Maybe--DOH. My super glue is in weight,not volume! It says 1OZ/ 28.4g. Oops

Transparent lids? How dull. I've got something like 80 paint pots standing before me in three rows, just split into metalic, washes, foundations and normal paints, then by colour scale.

Transparent lids = cheating!

No the old ones are count as lids
the new type are WYSIWYG