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Leman Russ. I hate Space Wolves for the horn-helmed viking cartoons they remind me of, but if you isolate Russ from the pups and ignore the whole future/space thing, you could reasonably drop him into Anglo-Saxon/Germanic heroic poetry, and I like that.
In fact, I think I would like the Space Wolves, in general, much more if they existed only in the fluff. It's the half-shaved, half-braided Yosemite Sam models (not to mention the 7ppm (pelts per model) apparent quota), color scheme, and occasional over the top "VIKINGS ARE THE COOLESTEST BECUASE THEY [insert ignorant assumption here] AND THE SPEHHS WOLFS IZ SPEHS VIKINZ!!1!" bull that really turns me off of them.
The Dreadnote wrote:But the Emperor already has a shrine, in the form of your local Games Workshop. You honour him by sacrificing your money to the plastic effigies of his warriors. In time, your devotion will be rewarded with the gift of having even more effigies to worship.
BikeMenace wrote:Voted Alpharius and his brother. they were shown the future and made the hard choice to protect mankind. " THE REAL GREATER GOOD"
Don't get me wrong, I like Alpharius and Omegon, but they were shown the future and chose to destroy mankind, in order to save the rest of the galaxy from Chaos. Hard choice, yes. Protect mankind, no.
What I do like about them is that they and their legion are traitors/rebels and not actually chaos marines. Well, perhaps they are now, but they weren't initially. For that matter, is there any fluff saying they are chaos-ed at all?
BikeMenace wrote:Voted Alpharius and his brother. they were shown the future and made the hard choice to protect mankind. " THE REAL GREATER GOOD"
Amen to that brother!
Can't say I would vote for some one who turned against everyone he ever served/protected just because some aliens showed him a slide show about the "future"..
BikeMenace wrote:Voted Alpharius and his brother. they were shown the future and made the hard choice to protect mankind. " THE REAL GREATER GOOD"
Don't get me wrong, I like Alpharius and Omegon, but they were shown the future and chose to destroy mankind, in order to save the rest of the galaxy from Chaos. Hard choice, yes. Protect mankind, no.
What I do like about them is that they and their legion are traitors/rebels and not actually chaos marines. Well, perhaps they are now, but they weren't initially. For that matter, is there any fluff saying they are chaos-ed at all?
No, they choose to destroy The Imperium to save Mankind. Even then none of that matters now. Now they do nothing.
Because subtlety works best when applied to unsubtle methods.
Because bitter and twisted is what traitor astartes are supposed to be.
Because there's no such thing as overkill...
Because the old 3rd ed basilisks can overcompensate for not only your own penis, but every other penis in the sector...
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Azezel wrote:I believe they've tried that. thirteen times in fact... Fourteen if you count that Horus thing.
Magnus... he blew up a daemonically possessed eldar titan with his mind.
He was going to be the new gran poobah of the webway, after emprah finished bulding the gate on terra.
He thought one of Tzeench's princes out of existance.
To me the only clear choice is the Lion. Though there are a bunch of cool dudes here, cunning and precise, once his mind is made up he makes it happen.
Now after reading Thousand Sons I have to say Russ has to be a huge hypocrite. No-one can have librarians but my stormcallers are ok.
DAG42 wrote:To me the only clear choice is the Lion. Though there are a bunch of cool dudes here, cunning and precise, once his mind is made up he makes it happen.
Now after reading Thousand Sons I have to say Russ has to be a huge hypocrite. No-one can have librarians but my stormcallers are ok.
Actually it never said Leman Russ had that opinion. we only know wyrdmake believes his powers are different from those of the Thousand Sons. and when you first see
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wyrdmake on prospero he is accompanied by a sister of silence (possibly on purpose). I also don't remember him using his powers in the battle except to defend himself against Ahriman.
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Magnus the red. He was a flake, but he almost killed leman russ, which is worthy of props.
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Wraithlordmechanic wrote:
DAG42 wrote:To me the only clear choice is the Lion. Though there are a bunch of cool dudes here, cunning and precise, once his mind is made up he makes it happen.
Now after reading Thousand Sons I have to say Russ has to be a huge hypocrite. No-one can have librarians but my stormcallers are ok.
Actually it never said Leman Russ had that opinion. we only know wyrdmake believes his powers are different from those of the Thousand Sons. and when you first see
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wyrdmake on prospero he is accompanied by a sister of silence (possibly on purpose). I also don't remember him using his powers in the battle except to defend himself against Ahriman.
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Defend himself? He went after the captains on purpose and wrecked havoc upon their libraries with the aid of psychic powers, not defense.
Wyrdmake was a giant gakhead. I'm glad ahriman did what he did to him. He deserved every piece of that torture!
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I like Ferrus Manus, but the whole mutated freaks hidden in the basement thing always stuck me as odd. As human beings solely designed to kill, I could never wrap my mind around the fact that he couldn't terminate all the monsters they had made. However, great looking chapter and cyborgs are always awesome!
Corey85 wrote:I like Ferrus Manus, but the whole mutated freaks hidden in the basement thing always stuck me as odd. As human beings solely designed to kill, I could never wrap my mind around the fact that he couldn't terminate all the monsters they had made. However, great looking chapter and cyborgs are always awesome!
I like Ferrus too, just not as numero uno. Where he is definitely first place is in the order of Primarch deaths. He was the first to die, not a pleasant distinction, and that always set him in a strange position for me. He is a very poignant character for the Heresy storyline (demonstrating how far this war would really go).
An update, I thought that now we had reached 200 votes, thanks everyone!
As it stands:
Loyalist primarchs- 52% of votes
Traitor primarchs- 48% of votes
(This is at 201 votes assuming that alpharius/omegon are traitor)
He is saves Terra from being overwhelmed by chaos by leading the charge to recapture the spaceport while the others are holed up in the palace hoping for rescue. Plus he leads the baddest motorcycle gang ever. How cool is that?
Corax FTW!!!! He, as a 20- something year old, lead an uprising against his corrupt superiors, brought an entire area under the imperium, was the only primarch to remember his past, is able to literally walk straight up to you without you noticing, and he kept the shattered raven guard together after the istvaan dropsite massacre. he then had to resort to speeding up the gene process, but created monstrosities instead. he then delivered the emperor's peace to them personally, exiled himself for a few years in the top room of the ravenspire, before emerging wild-eyed, murmuring "nevermore", and flying into the eye of terror, never being heard from again. Mental. OK, not so great towards the end, but he@s basically the 40k equivalent of a ninja king (the raven guard in general being ninjas)
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Corey85 wrote:I like Ferrus Manus, but the whole mutated freaks hidden in the basement thing always stuck me as odd. As human beings solely designed to kill, I could never wrap my mind around the fact that he couldn't terminate all the monsters they had made. However, great looking chapter and cyborgs are always awesome!
Aren't you thinking of Corax?
nah- he did have a load of mutants "in the basement", but he executed them all.
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DS:90-S++G+++M++B++I+Plotr06#+D+++A++++/eWD251R+++T(Ot)DM+ JB: I like the concept of a free Shrike roaming through the treetops of the jungle. I'm not sure that I like the idea of a real Shrike sitting on my couch eating my Skittles. corpsesarefun: Thank god I missed be nice to shrike day. greenskin lynn: because of all the skittles and soda, you basically live off sugar water, like some sort of freakish human-hummingbird hybrid.
shrike wrote:Corax FTW!!!!
He, as a 20- something year old, lead an uprising against his corrupt superiors, brought an entire area under the imperium, was the only primarch to remember his past, is able to literally walk straight up to you without you noticing, and he kept the shattered raven guard together after the istvaan dropsite massacre. he then had to resort to speeding up the gene process, but created monstrosities instead. he then delivered the emperor's peace to them personally, exiled himself for a few years in the top room of the ravenspire, before emerging wild-eyed, murmuring "nevermore", and flying into the eye of terror, never being heard from again. Mental. OK, not so great towards the end, but he@s basically the 40k equivalent of a ninja king (the raven guard in general being ninjas)
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battle Brother Lucifer wrote:
Corey85 wrote:I like Ferrus Manus, but the whole mutated freaks hidden in the basement thing always stuck me as odd. As human beings solely designed to kill, I could never wrap my mind around the fact that he couldn't terminate all the monsters they had made. However, great looking chapter and cyborgs are always awesome!
Aren't you thinking of Corax?
nah- he did have a load of mutants "in the basement", but he executed them all.
Didn't know that part, but I'm pretty sure Manus didn't have mutated freaks.
Ahh, it was Sanguinius for me. That mo'fo' can fly! I mean, he got it all; fancy pants sword, fancy pants wings, fancy pants homeworld (I love the fact that he was so loyal and yet from a planet called Baal!)
Although, the way the Emperor treats him, I wonder if there was a history of sexual abuse there...i mean..he is the pretty boy!
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Cadet_Commissar_Ludd wrote:An update, I thought that now we had reached 200 votes, thanks everyone!
As it stands:
Loyalist primarchs- 52% of votes
Traitor primarchs- 48% of votes
(This is at 201 votes assuming that alpharius/omegon are traitor)
that really turns me off of them.
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OK, not so great towards the end, but he@s basically the 