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Is it my imagination or are those the old gorilla-hand spearmen in the Battalion Box?

They are, they'll not put the single piece starter box figs in it, even if they are better.

Huh. Interesting that they'd pull out the Silver Helms.

Perhaps the Dragon Princes box set will give options to running them as Silver Helms as well (though why you would want to is beyond me at this point).

At least 20 is a usable number of Spears, even if they are still gorilla-handed.

Ugh.

Old Spear-men = No sale!

So, I might be able t resist that new army after all!

I'm just going to trim the bows off the backs of those Seaguard and call them vanilla Spearmen, myself. Looking forward to more great HE sculpts!

Is it me or is it only five minutes since High Elves were redone? When was the last book done?

Last book came out late '07, I believe. So, not terribly long ago. Still, you have to remember that this is just a 2nd wave of models. No new book coincides with this release.

Awesome, I was looking to start a new fantasy army and wanted an elite force (complete opposite of the hordes of my VC).

I can't wait.

Death By Monkeys wrote:Is it my imagination or are those the old gorilla-hand spearmen in the Battalion Box?

Just a rearrangement of old miniatures, not a single new one in it.

Alpharius wrote:Old Spear-men = No sale!
So, I might be able t resist that new army after all!

I just bought 28 of these buggers (old metal Lothern Guard):

Death By Monkeys wrote:I'm just going to trim the bows off the backs of those Seaguard and call them vanilla Spearmen, myself.

Why? A block of 30 with 25 stand and shoot attacks is quite impressive in 8th edition!

George Spiggott wrote:Is it me or is it only five minutes since High Elves were redone? When was the last book done?

As said, second waves have nothing to do with new army books. No High Elf army book for the next 18 months.

Kroothawk wrote:Why? A block of 30 with 25 stand and shoot attacks is quite impressive in 8th edition!

It is impressive. But considering I'll need to fill out 25% of my points between a measly 3 Core choices, I'd rather spend the points specializing on separate Archer and Spear units than on a hybrid Seaguard unit.

No new spearmen/archers? Crap. Looks like I'm going to be using the Island of Blood Sea Guard as my spearmen. The High Elf core units are fugly.

Small confirmation:
One blister is a noble on foot, the same Althran Stormrider as featured in the starter box (on Griffon there, now as said on foot).

Excellent - thanks!

Where do you get your info from, by the way?

This one from trusted rumour posters over at Warseer, other things from http://www.tabletopgamingnews.com/ .

Cant wait to see those new plastic boxes, I certainly did pick a ood time to start HE

Kroothawk wrote:The High Elf batallion will change from 16 Spearmen, 16 archers, 8 silver helms and one catapult to 20 spearmen, 20 archers, 1 chariot and one catapult:





http://forum.warhammer-forum.com/index.php?showtopic=151031&pid=1722718&st=50&#entry1722718

This is one of the 4 new plastic boxes, the other 3 seem to be Phoenix Guard, White Lions and Dragon Princes. There will be 2 metal boxes and 2 blisters, nothing definite known yet about these. Plus a spell card deck.

While I'm not really interested in starting Elves, I'm happy to see that GW is putting out Battalion/Battleforce boxes after all the rumors they were being phased out.

What do you guys suspect the prices will be? for the specials 10 for $35 or higher?

Brother SRM wrote:
While I'm not really interested in starting Elves, I'm happy to see that GW is putting out Battalion/Battleforce boxes after all the rumors they were being phased out.

Edited for general unpleasantness. They're not going to phase out Battalions or Battleforces, simply because it would be an idiotic thing to do.

I've got a $20 down that the rumor came from some yahoo who couldn't understand the difference between the "Spearheads" and "Megaforces" and their equivalent, regularly stocked friend the Battalion and Battleforce.

Some further tidbits:
1.) Battallion already seen in some stores.
2.) Hastings also confirmed plastic Phoenix Guard and White Lions.
3.) Scryer confirmed Dragon Princes to cost as much as the upcoming starter paint sets (18 pound in UK)

18BPD => ~$27.50-30? I could live with that.

Wow if that is true then its an over 50% reduction of price fro dragon princes. GW may be doing something right.....

That would be nice, and might, unfortunately, get me starting the High Elf army after all!

We'll see what the Phoenix Guard and White Lions clock in at though. There's got to be at least one 10 for $50 unit in there somewhere, right?

Argh!

Gold Guard or Gold Lions? Which one it'll be, it's anyone's guess!

Definitely the Gold Guard!

They fit the bill in terms of # of units in an army, unit size, army slot selection, etc.

Plus, who really fields them?

Anybody who's anybody fields Gold Guard.

/So glad I already have enough of everything in Metal.
//Ain't stopping me from buying plastic Dragon Princes. Love me some DPs.

Thank the gods they're redoing phoenix guard.. Best elite in the book now with the worst models in the line

Well I'm hoping that a squad of 10 Phoenix Guard will be around the $35 mark.

I just started a high elf army and I have everything I need except the Specials =/, October needs to get here soon....

Did you see the post on GW's What's New today for today, August 19? It supposedly answers the question about what High Elf sets are staying the same, but it really doesn't tell you anything at all because it only talks about what PLASTIC sets are staying the same. Any customer of more than a few weeks could have told you that the plastic sets are probably staying the same or not changing significantly, that's usually how it works. The question is, which metal sets are being replaced with new plastic ones? The article does not address that at all.

And I was afraid that they might update the Spearmen and Archers, now I can sleep like a baby

GAH. I was planning to buy some White Lions / Phoenix Guards for my army, but as I hate metal (generally), now I must wait till October to buy me some!
DAMN YOU GW, DAMN YOU!

No seriously, I'm so happy they rebuild the Batallion and make plastic White Lions and Phoenix Guards and Dragon Princes.