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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/08/08 15:16:57
Subject: Good Luck to the USA ETC Team
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Bunker wrote:The Sanguinor Version 2.7 wrote:This is so awesome after reading about people like Hulksmash taking Team USA to task.
The players were never taken to task, the lists were, which is perfectly acceptable seeing as the consensus still seems to be that the lists are sub-optimal at best. What you're evidently seeing is very good players taking lists that aren't as great as they could be and winning with them, which is the true sign of a good player.
You're a really poor troll, but seeing as you have to spread it across two accounts while the mods sleep on it I guess you eventually begin to run out of material.
1/10 for the trolling attempt, +1 because hulksmash actually responded, -1 because he did so in an intelligent manner.
Overall score from the Canadian judge: 1/10.
Hey you are a cool guy!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/08/08 15:38:51
Subject: Good Luck to the USA ETC Team
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Stalwart Veteran Guard Sergeant
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England - Germany,
What a Game
C'mon the Germans
Arran
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Raven Guard W.I.P
Cadian 31st - 2000p
WAB Roman Army W.I.P.
10mm Swiss and Scottish |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/08/08 15:46:38
Subject: Good Luck to the USA ETC Team
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Fixture of Dakka
Feasting on the souls of unworthy opponents
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Hulksmash wrote:I already knocked their lists BBF...I mean TSV2.7.
I just looked at join date and looked at the posts made....it could very well be!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/08/08 16:40:24
Subject: Good Luck to the USA ETC Team
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Major
far away from Battle Creek, Michigan
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Fourth place for the u.s. three wins, a loss, and a draw.
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PROSECUTOR: By now, there have been 34 casualties.
Elena Ceausescu says: Look, and that they are calling genocide.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/08/08 16:40:31
Subject: Re:Good Luck to the USA ETC Team
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Crafty Goblin
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This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2010/08/08 16:41:35
A little health now and again is the invalids best remedy. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/08/08 16:42:23
Subject: Re:Good Luck to the USA ETC Team
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Willing Inquisitorial Excruciator
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Results after 5th round:
Poland 8 248
Sweden 8 150
Spain 8 134
US 7 116
Germany 7 92
Denmark 7 14
Italy 6 48
Latvia 6 28
Russia 6 -20
Switzerland 6 -34
France 5 60
Belarus 5 12
England 5 8
Scotland 4 40
Ukraine 4 6
Wales 4 -24
Faroe Island 4 -26
Hungary 4 -36
Finland 4 -52
Ireland 4 -66
Austria 3 -44
Czech 3 -142
Belgium 2 -108
Northern Ireland 0 -404
Pairings for the last round:
Poland : Sweden
Spain : United States
Denmark : Germany
Italy : Switzerland
Latvia : Russia
Belarus : France
England : Scotland
Ukraine : Wales
Faroe Island : Ireland
Finland : Hungary
Austria : Belgium
Czech : Northern Ireland
Yep, lost in round 5... 6th round needs a win for 3rd overall eh?
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7K Points of Black Legion and Daemons
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/08/08 16:43:47
Subject: Good Luck to the USA ETC Team
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Major
far away from Battle Creek, Michigan
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Jeezus...poland wiped the flooe with 'em
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PROSECUTOR: By now, there have been 34 casualties.
Elena Ceausescu says: Look, and that they are calling genocide.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/08/08 16:50:20
Subject: Re:Good Luck to the USA ETC Team
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Brainless Zombie
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I have it from a witness that the Poles used the classic "sling-shot" strategy, also known as "closing the door." Few army lists nor players can deal with that when done correctly.
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"It is not for me to be the arbiter of what is safe to be in at sea. The sea decides."
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/08/08 16:53:28
Subject: Good Luck to the USA ETC Team
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Longtime Dakkanaut
Getting my broom incase there is shenanigans.
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olympia wrote:Jeezus...poland wiped the flooe with 'em
96-66 is a loss, but not a huge loss. Poland was one of this years favorites, and they had a huge lead in points due to crushing N. Ireland.
It looks like the USA will place high, and do a lot better than everyone thought they would.
The will come back with some valuable experience so they will be able to win it next year.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/08/08 16:56:14
Subject: Good Luck to the USA ETC Team
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Sneaky Sniper Drone
Lancashire
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England are having some interesting games, first game today against Germany then a 'border skirmish' against the Scots. Would be quite interesting as they all know each other.
Impressed that the US players have done so well, i think quite a few people wrote them off when looking at the non-specialised lists but goes to show if you're a good enough player you can win against pretty much anything
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/08/08 17:02:59
Subject: Good Luck to the USA ETC Team
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Ladies Love the Vibro-Cannon Operator
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The German lists were too much min-maxed and the Nids list was just awful.
I know some players, they were my regular oppenents in RTTs.
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Former moderator 40kOnline
Lanchester's square law - please obey in list building!
Illumini: "And thank you for not finishing your post with a " " I'm sorry, but after 7200 's that has to be the most annoying sign-off ever."
Armies: Eldar, Necrons, Blood Angels, Grey Knights; World Eaters (30k); Bloodbound; Cryx, Circle, Cyriss |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/08/08 17:19:32
Subject: Good Luck to the USA ETC Team
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Regular Dakkanaut
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What the hell is this sling shot?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/08/08 17:28:37
Subject: Good Luck to the USA ETC Team
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Stalwart Veteran Guard Sergeant
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Hhah England - Scotland !
Scots Wha Hae!
Arran (<- Scottish Island, Patriotism much?)
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Raven Guard W.I.P
Cadian 31st - 2000p
WAB Roman Army W.I.P.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/08/08 18:55:07
Subject: Good Luck to the USA ETC Team
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Archmagos Veneratus Extremis
Home Base: Prosper, TX (Dallas)
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US could still take #2 assuming no one at the top tables ties. Hell of a good showing actually.
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Best Painted (2015 Adepticon 40k Champs)
They Shall Know Fear - Adepticon 40k TT Champion (2012 & 2013) & 40k TT Best Sport (2014), 40k TT Best Tactician (2015 & 2016) |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/08/08 19:11:16
Subject: Good Luck to the USA ETC Team
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Ladies Love the Vibro-Cannon Operator
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I'm sorry to see England not top-tier.
After all, the heart of GW lies in England.
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Former moderator 40kOnline
Lanchester's square law - please obey in list building!
Illumini: "And thank you for not finishing your post with a " " I'm sorry, but after 7200 's that has to be the most annoying sign-off ever."
Armies: Eldar, Necrons, Blood Angels, Grey Knights; World Eaters (30k); Bloodbound; Cryx, Circle, Cyriss |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/08/08 19:35:16
Subject: Re:Good Luck to the USA ETC Team
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Willing Inquisitorial Excruciator
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The battle reports should be great! Anxiously awaiting the final results!
I will second what is a "slingshot" or "closing the door" tactic?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/08/08 20:28:01
Subject: Good Luck to the USA ETC Team
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Sneaky Sniper Drone
Lancashire
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wuestenfux wrote:I'm sorry to see England not top-tier.
After all, the heart of GW lies in England. 
Tell me about it. Pretty much every year it would be a spanish or italian winning the GT anyway and now we don't even have that  Hopefully they'll improve on last year, don't think any of them thought they'd win, creep in to the top five maybe if they crush scotland....wish if they don't I'm never going to let them forget as our b team beat them at the home nations.
The biggest frustration about the ETC is its so WFB biased, so hard to find any 40k results but WFB are easy to find.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/08/08 20:28:03
Subject: Re:Good Luck to the USA ETC Team
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Crafty Goblin
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Seems the top three are:
1. Dänemark
2. Italien
3. Deutschland
Can't find more detail yet as to where usa ended up.
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A little health now and again is the invalids best remedy. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/08/08 20:30:25
Subject: Re:Good Luck to the USA ETC Team
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Sneaky Sniper Drone
Lancashire
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Leez wrote:Seems the top three are:
1. Dänemark
2. Italien
3. Deutschland
Can't find more detail yet as to where usa ended up.
That's WFB
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/08/08 20:32:05
Subject: Re:Good Luck to the USA ETC Team
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Longtime Dakkanaut
Getting my broom incase there is shenanigans.
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Leez wrote:Seems the top three are:
1. Dänemark
2. Italien
3. Deutschland
Can't find more detail yet as to where usa ended up.
That is for fantasy.
In 40k USA tied Spain.
#1) Poland
#2) Germany
#3) USA
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/08/08 20:36:07
Subject: Re:Good Luck to the USA ETC Team
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Crafty Goblin
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Hmmm, yeah. Would be hard to Italy to get so high up after the 5th round. The thread I was reading must have made a hard siwtch from 40k to fantasy.
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Blackmoor wrote:
In 40k USA tied Spain.
#1) Poland
#2) Germany
#3) USA
Third place is pretty decent. Hope they'll be able to write battle reports, but I doubt it
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/08/08 20:42:11
Subject: Good Luck to the USA ETC Team
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Blood Angel Neophyte Undergoing Surgeries
Baal Secundus
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Third place is very good for their first showing. They did very well, obviously having to face stiffer competition in the two final rounds.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/08/08 20:45:16
Subject: Good Luck to the USA ETC Team
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Sneaky Sniper Drone
Lancashire
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If they tied with Spain in the last game then I would have thought the top three would be Poland, Germany and Spain, with US in fourth as Spain had 8pts before the round and US 7pts? I think they go off the overall round results (WDL) before the individual results (20-0).
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/08/08 20:48:52
Subject: Good Luck to the USA ETC Team
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Ladies Love the Vibro-Cannon Operator
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Congrats team Germany. It seems that my buddies did very well.
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Former moderator 40kOnline
Lanchester's square law - please obey in list building!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/08/08 21:09:26
Subject: Good Luck to the USA ETC Team
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Crafty Goblin
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Fallen Angel wrote:If they tied with Spain in the last game then I would have thought the top three would be Poland, Germany and Spain, with US in fourth as Spain had 8pts before the round and US 7pts? I think they go off the overall round results (WDL) before the individual results (20-0).
According to the people twit' ng from the awards spain is 3rd, germany 2nd, and poland 1st and scotland getting most sporting team.
https://twitter.com/search?q=%23ETC10
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A little health now and again is the invalids best remedy. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/08/08 21:45:53
Subject: Good Luck to the USA ETC Team
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Major
far away from Battle Creek, Michigan
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U.s. 5th place i think.
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PROSECUTOR: By now, there have been 34 casualties.
Elena Ceausescu says: Look, and that they are calling genocide.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/08/08 21:49:38
Subject: Re:Good Luck to the USA ETC Team
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Storm Trooper with Maglight
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Here are the actual results, wich I typed from a poor quality picture on twitter :
rank - country - points - goal average
01 Poland 10 / 280
02 Germany 9 / 162
03 Spain 9 / 132
04 Sweden 8 / 118
05 USA 8 / 116
06 Switzerland 8 / 16
07 Latvia 7 / 36
08 England 7 32
09 Russia 7 / -30
10 Denmark 7 / -56
11 France 6 / 52
12 Ukraine 6 52
13 Belarus 6 / 20
14 Italy 6 / -2
15 Austria 5 / 10
16 Faroe Islands 5 / -28
17 Finland 5 / -44
18 Hungary 5 / -44
19 Ireland 5 / -64
20 Scotland 4 / 16
21 Wales 4 / -70
22 Czech rep. 4 / -132
22 Belgium 2 / -162
23 North. Ireland 1 / -414
Polska rules !
This is quite good for team USA, congrats for those guys !
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/08/08 23:39:45
Subject: Good Luck to the USA ETC Team
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Stalwart Veteran Guard Sergeant
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wuestenfux wrote:I'm sorry to see England not top-tier.
After all, the heart of GW lies in England. 
Im sorry GW lies in the UNITED KINGDOM!, it irks me so much that Britain is called England by every one else.  Even tough technically it is in England....
Arran
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/08/09 00:18:45
Subject: Good Luck to the USA ETC Team
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Battleship Captain
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Dude, saying that it's a shame that England (or any of the UK teams, for that matter) doesn't make top tier because it's "the heart of GW" is like saying that England should do better in the World Cup because it's where soccer was invented. There's no logic to that argument. Frankly, I'd be interested to see how those placements correlate to things like the dollar amount spent by that nation as a whole on GW products or the number of official tournaments played in those countries. Frankly, I'm a little surprised that based on the number of tournaments held in the US that Team USA didn't fare better, even if it were the Team's first showing.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/08/09 00:25:09
Subject: Re:Good Luck to the USA ETC Team
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Longtime Dakkanaut
Getting my broom incase there is shenanigans.
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5th is still a good showing for USA's first year.
So I hope that will silence all of the people who said:
1) American teams lists are bad.
2) Americans can't play with LOS blocking terrain.
3) Americans don't know how to play as a "team"
4) Americans play style is not at good as the European style.
Etc.
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