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JDM wrote:All the Marines look REALLY old.....

Yeah, that is a bit odd.

I guess Marines are NOT potentially immortal, unless they mean in the "oops, you forgot to ask for eternal youth to go along with immortality" Greek curse sense...

dodgex1 wrote:I was excited by this originally but that looks dire, as already mentioned the DOW trailers are far superior. Granddad marine, acrobatic gym routine finish marine, dead imperial fists, one shot through the side of the chest death marine. I'm not a graphic artist and It's not like I was expecting pixar quality but it looks pretty low quality as well.

I agree completely. Even if you didn't care about the Warhammer 40,000 setting, the Dawn of War II trailer was entertaining. It's got verbal sparring instead of exposition, an amusing arms race where the Space Marines and Eldar keep countering each others' counterattacks instead of a bunch of Space Marines standing and shooting at an unseen foe, and a sense that the two factions really hate one another since their attacks were so vicious instead of just gory.

This trailer just isn't a very good trailer.

AlexHolker wrote:

dodgex1 wrote:I was excited by this originally but that looks dire, as already mentioned the DOW trailers are far superior. Granddad marine, acrobatic gym routine finish marine, dead imperial fists, one shot through the side of the chest death marine. I'm not a graphic artist and It's not like I was expecting pixar quality but it looks pretty low quality as well.

I agree completely. Even if you didn't care about the Warhammer 40,000 setting, the Dawn of War II trailer was entertaining. It's got verbal sparring instead of exposition, an amusing arms race where the Space Marines and Eldar keep countering each others' counterattacks instead of a bunch of Space Marines standing and shooting at an unseen foe, and a sense that the two factions really hate one another since their attacks were so vicious instead of just gory.

This trailer just isn't a very good trailer.

Plus, when that Dreadnought grabbed that Banshee, and then turned on the heavy flamer... epic!

The New Ultramarines Trailer is up on the site.

http://ultramarinesthemovie.com/trailer/?utm_source=Ultramarines:+The+Movie&utm_campaign=ea31fa41e7-Email_10&utm_medium=email

BobbaFett wrote:I´m not impressed...

First, they show you shadows and smoke spending valuable seconds of the trailer in showing nothing. Then just a few quick shots of the same repeated marine. And it doesn´t look very impressive, just like the ones from the videogame.
The shots, the scope was really small, no wide shots, doesn´t feel epic. The only shots I like are the ship and the planet ones. The rest looks like a cheap TV series.

I really want something like the intros from the videogames, but this was... dissapointing.

I'd have to agree ......meh .
Really underwelmed by that preview .

Still a chance that it could be pulled out.. but, the general decision making that went into the direction of the trailers/teasers so far is not giving me great hope, even if the design/technical aspects were spot on, the fact that the general consensus of their target audience (us) is 'meh' is not promising....

Good thing their target audience can't help themselves and will compulsively buy this movie!

I liked it and am interested to see what the movie is like

The trailer itself was crap... it's a minute of a geezer talking and then an incredibly old looking guy who's face barely moves when he talks. At least there was some blood. I'm not too impressed with the animations so far, but the modelling and textures are pretty decent. Still, I can almost guarantee everyone here will see it one way or another. I'm buying it right when it's released so that way even if I hear bad things it's already too late. Maybe the money will be able to go to making a better quality sequel

Better Quality
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOXz10znAKc

The first trailer for ULTRAMARINES: A Warhammer 40,000 Movie is released!

From http://ultramarinesthemovie.com/news
This is the first trailor. See? ^
It's meant to be part of a series. As in, it is meant to make you want more, to want to see the next trailers/previews and then the movie.
The enemies aren't shown to leave you guessing, so you'll (again) watch the next trailers and finally the movie.


Oh, and

IMPERIAL FISTS TO FEATURE IN ULTRAMARINES MOVIE
We can now reveal that a second Space Marines chapter, the Imperial Fists, appear in the ULTRAMARINES movie, alongside their battle brothers, the Ultramarines.

From the same place.

...people don't read or research things before posting anymore.
Though hell, I probably don't do it enough.


Regardless, I'm excited for this movie if only for the fact that it's 40k, which has become like crack to me.

Lord_Inquisitor wrote:As in, it is meant to make you want more, to want to see the next trailers/previews and then the movie.
The enemies aren't shown to leave you guessing, so you'll (again) watch the next trailers and finally the movie.

So instead of learning from the trailers for movies like Iron Man, Avatar and Sucker Punch, GW decided the best way to drum up interest was to do the exact opposite, and not provide anything that would actually suggest what's coming is worth seeing?

At least their approach to marketing is consistent.

I think it's better doing this when working with a niche market. The people you're aiming the product at already know bunches about it, so they don't have to tell you everything.
And, again, it's the first trailer. Perhaps I'm wrong, and they'll immediately show the main "bad guys" of the movie in the next trailer. I'm trying to think of the trailers as one big uber-trailer once they all come out, but bleh. I'm tired and I think I confused myself.

Lord_Inquisitor wrote:I think it's better doing this when working with a niche market. The people you're aiming the product at already know bunches about it, so they don't have to tell you everything.

It's true that marketing it to a niche market of existing 40k fans would let you get away with leaving some things out. But if that's the case they left the wrong bits out and kept the wrong bits in.

40k fans don't need an opening narration about the nature of the 41st Millenium. We already know this stuff. What 40k fans need is to be convinced it's going to be a good 40k movie. Hell, the trailer doesn't even mention that the screenplay was written by Dan Abnett, which should be a major selling point.

Hmm, true. I had actually forgotten about the whole intro >_>
Good point, actually.
Still, maybe that trailer was a silly "trial-run" to see what people want in the next one?

I tried to get psyched for this move but couldn't simply becasue it's yet another space marines project.
Never mind the fact that it looks pretty unpolished.

I'm glad to see that animation quality hasn't improved since 1995. It's good that they could get the guys that made the cutscenes for the last epic game to do an entire film.

Puke.

They should have hired the animation studio THQ uses for space marine cinematics. Or the guys they used for warhammer online.

It really wasn't that great having seen it in person. It's worth mentioning though that the entire budget for the film was probably on the same scale as the budget for the intro to DoWII.

But yea, overall I thought the marines looked too fat, the armor not very well textured, and let me just say I hope most of the talking is done with their helmets on. Sync seemed off. Let alone the much talked about age of the marines.

Nvs wrote:It really wasn't that great having seen it in person. It's worth mentioning though that the entire budget for the film was probably on the same scale as the budget for the intro to DoWII.

But yea, overall I thought the marines looked too fat, the armor not very well textured, and let me just say I hope most of the talking is done with their helmets on. Sync seemed off. Let alone the much talked about age of the marines.

With the budget for dawn of war two they should be able to produce much better visuals than that. Dawn of war IIs budget wasn't all that small.

ShumaGorath wrote:I'm glad to see that animation quality hasn't improved since 1995. It's good that they could get the guys that made the cutscenes for the last epic game to do an entire film.

Puke.

They should have hired the animation studio THQ uses for space marine cinematics. Or the guys they used for warhammer online.

Agree, I was really expecting something around the quality of DOW2s opening sequence, but I guess I expected too much. Oh well, maybe this is just a trial run, and the final product will be better quality.

But, it could still be worth watching even at that level of animation, the trailer just kind of sucked

With the budget for dawn of war two they should be able to produce much better visuals than that. Dawn of war IIs budget wasn't all that small.

DoW II was made by THQ, not Games Workshop. One of these is a electronic gaming company with an absolutely massive modelling and animation department with dozens of commercially successful games. The other is a comparatively small company with next to no modelling department and absolutely no animation experience, and a grand total of 3 successful games. Entirely different scale in the budgets here.

Snikkyd wrote:

ShumaGorath wrote:I'm glad to see that animation quality hasn't improved since 1995. It's good that they could get the guys that made the cutscenes for the last epic game to do an entire film.

Puke.

They should have hired the animation studio THQ uses for space marine cinematics. Or the guys they used for warhammer online.

Agree, I was really expecting something around the quality of DOW2s opening sequence, but I guess I expected too much. Oh well, maybe this is just a trial run, and the final product will be better quality.

But, it could still be worth watching even at that level of animation, the trailer just kind of sucked

This DOES look like the dawn of war two opening sequence. The dawn of war two opening sequence isn't exactly stellar.


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Laughing Man wrote:

With the budget for dawn of war two they should be able to produce much better visuals than that. Dawn of war IIs budget wasn't all that small.

DoW II was made by THQ, not Games Workshop. One of these is a electronic gaming company with an absolutely massive modelling and animation department with dozens of commercially successful games. The other is a comparatively small company with next to no modelling department and absolutely no animation experience, and a grand total of 3 successful games. Entirely different scale in the budgets here.

Not really. They are just in different fields. THQ does out of house work for cinematic animation and isn't in that different of a place then games workshop concerning that kind of work. As for the budget argument, if GW doesn't have the budget to put out a quality product, then why is it putting one out at all? Ignoring the fact that they likely could have found investor capitol for the project to up it's budget.

Laughing Man wrote:The other is a comparatively small company with next to no modelling department and absolutely no animation experience, and a grand total of 3 successful games.

It's not like Games Workshop just grabbed a bunch of redshirts and said "Congratulations! You're making a movie!" The people making the movie have made direct-to-DVD animated movies before.

And if your "3 successful games" are 40K, WHFB and LOTR, that's just completely wrong.

AlexHolker wrote:And if your "3 successful games" are 40K, WHFB and LOTR, that's just completely wrong.

GW makes another game system I don't know about?

But yes, you're right about them contracting out. Codex is apparently the wonderful people who brought us the Bionicle movies. I'm not entirely sure this is a good thing.

Oh, and figured out why all the marines look old: Apparently Codex is playing around with face capture software, which means that the Marine being played by Stamp gets to wear his lovely wrinked face too. Really, this might have been a better idea if their actors weren't all middle aged men...

Laughing Man wrote:

AlexHolker wrote:And if your "3 successful games" are 40K, WHFB and LOTR, that's just completely wrong.

GW makes another game system I don't know about?

Well, consider, GW also makes: Epic 40k, Necromunda, Battlefleet Gothic, etc. etc. So yes, more than three games. More importantly, you have to note that there is a major difference between 40k and a video game. The closest thing to 40k in a video game sense would be a video game series like C&C, and not single games.

Laughing Man wrote:

AlexHolker wrote:And if your "3 successful games" are 40K, WHFB and LOTR, that's just completely wrong.

GW makes another game system I don't know about?

The likes of Epic and Necromunda, for starters. The fact that they aren't still in production doesn't retroactively make them unsuccessful.

Claimh_Solais wrote:Anyone have the video in better quality yet ??!


BTW pleas stop the whinyng ...really come on
we haven sen the move yet

we shode be happy the MAKE a 40K movie at all

kinda better?

This movie looks fantastic. The only thing that could make this better would be to have the African American looking marines voiced by Marlan Wayans and Eddie Murphy.

General Hobbs wrote:
The only thing that could make this better would be to have the African American looking marines voiced by Marlan Wayans and Eddie Murphy.

Brother Murphy wrote:Brother, how much for a few frag grenades?

Brother Wayans wrote:Well Brother, for 20 credits you get the buffet with frag grenades, krag grenades and melta bombs!

Brother Murphy wrote:20 credit? Brother, I just need a few frag grenades.

Brother Wayans wrote:Looks around Here, take a few frag grenades

Absolutely pants...., and yet sooo typical of GW! The graphics are decades behind in quality, come on seriously, this looks like its fan made....I've been watching some of the trailers for the new Star Wars games, even the new Star Wars Force Unleashed II, and really, if GW arn't knocking out stuff of that quality then they shouldn't even bother....seriously! Unless they intend to give this "movie" away as a freebie on the cover of the next WD, then good luck.....

What a load of kak!