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Any thing on The Black Library????

I'm dieing right NOW!

hmm shadow aspect warriors i wonder if they will be in the next eldar codex.

IIRC extended scenes from the Ultramarines movie were to be shown. Did anyone happen get anything on this?

sonofruss wrote:got this from warseer drool

Nononononononononono.... Just fething no!!!

Kanluwen wrote:
As for the Aspects...there's always been no "set" number of them. There's just some that are more popular than others. So it very well could be that the Shadow Spectres are going to be explained an Aspect that guards these Eldar "deep storage" colonies, or that infiltrate human held planets and stalk the settlers to try to scare them off the planet.

I spent a while talking to Warwick also he explained quite alot about the new aspect worriers some of which has been covered here, he went on to explain that the concept for these guys is they are a lost aspect their shrines are currently lost or left empty on the craft worlds and that the eldar are trying to rediscover the path of this aspect as it were. They are closely related to the wraith guard and lords they are still living eldar them selves though. He also went on to say they are working on a full 5 man squad with exarch how ever the idea of a phoenix lord is there but they will probably wait to see how things go with the squad plus exarch first. To be honest from the fluff that he described about them so far it makes more sense for them not to have one at least not just yet any way based on the lost aspect idea he talked about.

He also said that they are as most have already said they are long range jetpack tank killers utilising a form of prism rifle the other option was a close combat variation of swooping hawks when they looked at the troop types available to the eldar they felt these were two types they would benefit most from. There wasn't a release window for them as yet he just said they still had to develop the full squad and exarch first then phoenix would probably come later if they did one.

Any way i'll add the two pictures i managed to get of them while i was there

Any idea what slot in the FOC the new aspect will take? It's looking like a toss up between heavy and Fast attack.
I would be really disappointed if they tried to stuff another thing into the heavy support slot.

You know I never thought to ask I guess either could work all he did say was they will be a pretty expensive unit never covered the FOC slot they would take up.

inquisitorfaust wrote:

Little lord Fauntleroy wrote:On the Badab war front (technically not Games Day but I got mine there today, so I guess it counts), we now know what is likely to be the new moniker for the infamous Space Sharks-Carcharodons. They're mentioned as being in part 2 in the campaign rules.

Can you tell me of any mention of the Exorcists? They have been my favorite chapter since I read the Armageddon3 website piece on them, so I'm a little anxious to see what FW does with them.

They are in the second Badab book, I too am waiting for them to be fleshed out with (hopefully) some sort of character mini

A new Eldar Aspect? Can the Slicing Orbs be not far behind?!?

Dok wrote:Any idea what slot in the FOC the new aspect will take? It's looking like a toss up between heavy and Fast attack.
I would be really disappointed if they tried to stuff another thing into the heavy support slot.

It's Warwick, guys. They will be overpriced, have some rules copied from the Rogue Trader rulebook, and their Force Org slot will not be specified. Once it is FAQ'ed it will become clear that they take _two_ heavy support slots.

If, in some alternate universe, the guy did any playtesting, he would see they'd do best in an FA slot. He would also take notes on the utter failure of the Dark Reapers in 5th and find some way to avoid the same pitfalls. Jetpack mobility goes a long way to ameliorating the Reaper-style suckfest, so perhaps he's already thinking clearer. Not being Heavy would make them quite palatable. Having something to escape/avoid CC would put the unit into "awesome must have" territory. But enough wishlisting...

@JHDD, ya think that might have been where they were going with the Jetpack assault guys? That's actually a darned cool mechanic. Hope these guys succeed so that we get to see the Orbs some day!

Weren't there two other unexplored but mentioned aspects besides the Slicing Orbs of Zandros or whatever they were called? My poor old brain seems to recall some Charging Bulls and maybe Void Panthers or Stalking Panthers or something... but maybe those are half-cooked conversion ideas that just tumbled out of a dusty corner of my prefrontal cortex.

Love those new Eldar aspects. Good job I'm just starting a new Eldar army, eh?

sonofruss wrote:got this from warseer drool

very sick looking... was hoping for the Ares, but this looks sick, too... a Techmarine Land Raider, maybe?

Reecius wrote:Those specters are the business! Please, FW, don't make totally gak rules for them like usual!

Hopefully GW integrates these into the new codex like they have with other FW items lately.

In regards to rules, the mini-fire prism is a heavy lance, which can combine fire, and move and fire due to the jetpack.

Whne I was speaking to Warwick he stated that they would make them underpowered first, just to be on the safe side, and then make them more powerful in the FAQ.

One of the sculptors (the one on the left of Mark Bedford) said that they have no plans to relalease Thunder armour or MarkII Armour, as they were only largely in use in the age of strfe and the unification of earth, so it doesn't fit in.

Goliath wrote:

Whne I was speaking to Warwick he stated that they would make them underpowered first, just to be on the safe side, and then make them more powerful in the FAQ.

Safe side of what? I have no idea what this is supposed to mean. Why wouldn't you just design a balanced unit from the start?

plastictrees wrote:Safe side of what? I have no idea what this is supposed to mean. Why wouldn't you just design a balanced unit from the start?

In the grim darkness of the far future there can only be over powered Space Marine units.

plastictrees wrote:

Goliath wrote:

Whne I was speaking to Warwick he stated that they would make them underpowered first, just to be on the safe side, and then make them more powerful in the FAQ.

Safe side of what? I have no idea what this is supposed to mean. Why wouldn't you just design a balanced unit from the start?

Balance is always hard to achieve in so many cases maybe by playing safe they hope to avoid any game breaking mechanics or over powerdness as a result. But that said play testing should really help resolve any rule issues before release.

Can we get the title of this thread changed? I've been through three pages and all it is is Forge World news...

There must of been more than just Forge World at Games Day...

Mick

Love that the Shadow Spectres!

The models are brilliant. They can easily replace the lameness of the Swoop Hawks but different function and give them some troops with anti tank capability, other than Fire Dragons (but limited range) and Reapers (light tanks). Withdraw and Tank Hunter would be good exarch powers for them. Hope they make the guns 24-36 inches assault NOT heavy defeats the whole purpose of having jump packs and not shooting when you land because you moved.

If they make a Phoenix Lord Shadow Spectre,....swoon
I would have to smother them to unconsciousness with my breasts. lol.

Anung Un Rama wrote:That's the Techmarine gun, isn't it?

IIRC it is in fact the "Punisher" cannon from the guard codex, the one with 20 shots.

...so TL MM the transport open, shoot them up with the 20 shot cannon and then assault any survivors.

Ouch !

Disclaimer : it does look like the TF cannon to me too, but people who were there said to the contrary.

reds8n wrote:

Anung Un Rama wrote:That's the Techmarine gun, isn't it?

IIRC it is in fact the "Punisher" cannon from the guard codex, the one with 20 shots.

...so TL MM the transport open, shoot them up with the 20 shot cannon and then assault any survivors.

Ouch !

Punisher

Thunderfire

Dare I say, that sucker has a Thunderfire on it!

Yeah, you kind of ninjaed my edit there a bit.

Well, just looking at it more closely, the armor panels scream Techmarine, as does the AdMech symbol on the front. Hard to imagine it wouldn't be a TFire.

Are you guys sure the Achilles retains its transport capacity? It just strikes me that whatever weapon the front weapon is its seems too big to retain the normal capcity.

As you can see in the pick there is no front ramp so i am guessing little or no transport capability

Most likely no transport, or smaller transport with no front assault ramp: side doors only.

Savnock wrote:

Dok wrote:Any idea what slot in the FOC the new aspect will take? It's looking like a toss up between heavy and Fast attack.
I would be really disappointed if they tried to stuff another thing into the heavy support slot.

It's Warwick, guys. They will be overpriced, have some rules copied from the Rogue Trader rulebook, and their Force Org slot will not be specified. Once it is FAQ'ed it will become clear that they take _two_ heavy support slots.

If, in some alternate universe, the guy did any playtesting, he would see they'd do best in an FA slot. He would also take notes on the utter failure of the Dark Reapers in 5th and find some way to avoid the same pitfalls. Jetpack mobility goes a long way to ameliorating the Reaper-style suckfest, so perhaps he's already thinking clearer. Not being Heavy would make them quite palatable. Having something to escape/avoid CC would put the unit into "awesome must have" territory. But enough wishlisting...
.

Whereas of course, having merely seen the models no more than a few hours ago, you have thoroughly playtested them, without knowing points or abilities etc. Gotcha.

Actually Mystery, he's going on FW's track record with rules.

And that's not a good track record by any means...

Thats what I was thinking, either no transport or its the razorback of landraiders. I'm going more with no transport. That would make this closer to a marine battle tank. No matter what weapon that is, I think it would a be a justifiable evolution of that layout to switch out the gun with a demolisher or battle cannon.

I certainly hope its not a punsiher, a thunderfire makes more sense.

H.B.M.C. wrote:Actually Mystery, he's going on FW's track record with rules.

And that's not a good track record by any means...

It's more his insistence that they should be Fast Attack, just because he says so.

It also might be because the Eldar HS section is really quite packed.