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I like the:

Q: What happens when a unit arrives from reserves but is
unable to completely move onto the board? (p94)
A: The unit is destroyed and removed from play.

solves one debate at least.

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Melissia: I agree entirely with you that FAQ should be considered Official. I'm just saying that even though they said the codexes wont be edited via errata, they still may release more Army FAQs

   
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I certainly agree there.

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Locclo wrote:Some interesting changes in this one. I find it interesting that you can't shoot at an unoccupied building - there's at least one person at my FLGS who's going to be much happier now, since his terrain includes two huge buildings which he hides his Basilisks behind. Although I do wonder...

Q: If a vehicle receives multiple Destroyed – Explodes!
results simultaneously how many D6 do you roll to
determine the blast radius? (p61)
A: One.

Was that really a point of confusion before?


I think you can have multiply explodes results now and have it explode several times now.

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How? The FAQ says the exact opposite - no matter how many times it explodes!, it only rolls 1D6 for range.

DR - and means Baneblades always take a hit when deployed in Spearhead, as you cannot reserve it and have it make it on the board alive.
   
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nosferatu1001 wrote:How? The FAQ says the exact opposite - no matter how many times it explodes!, it only rolls 1D6 for range.

Then multiply by number of results. It just says to roll 1D6 for the radius instead of once for each result.

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BoyMac wrote:
nosferatu1001 wrote:How? The FAQ says the exact opposite - no matter how many times it explodes!, it only rolls 1D6 for range.

Then multiply by number of results. It just says to roll 1D6 for the radius instead of once for each result.


What?

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BoyMac wrote:
nosferatu1001 wrote:How? The FAQ says the exact opposite - no matter how many times it explodes!, it only rolls 1D6 for range.

Then multiply by number of results. It just says to roll 1D6 for the radius instead of once for each result.


Huh?

You roll 1D6 regardless of how many explosions you have. NOT 1D6 x number of explosions.

Not that tricky....
   
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The way I read it Nos was if they had say 5 explodes and rolled a 2 it would go 'boom!' 10" ^_^

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Ah right. I just read it as totally ignoring the FAQ answer which is: you roll 1D6 no matter how many explosions you get.

Roll 5 explosions? Radius = 1D6
Roll 10000091 explosions? Radius = 1D6

I would prefer it to be radius = max (D6 for explosion 1, D6sub2, ....., S6 sub n) as i think it is cooler
   
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Mattieau wrote:Melissia: I agree entirely with you that FAQ should be considered Official. I'm just saying that even though they said the codexes wont be edited via errata, they still may release more Army FAQs


Ah my mistake... although do they need to? I can't see any FAQs being much different than what they are now. Would be interesting if they did though.

BoyMac wrote:
I think you can have multiply explodes results now and have it explode several times now.


No. Just... just no.

When a tank explodes it explodes... the wreckage isn't going to explode multiple times.
   
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DeathReaper wrote:I like the:

Q: What happens when a unit arrives from reserves but is
unable to completely move onto the board? (p94)
A: The unit is destroyed and removed from play.

solves one debate at least.


but doesent GW know that the model is both on AND off the table?

....man i hate that debate
   
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nosferatu1001 wrote:...
DR - and means Baneblades always take a hit when deployed in Spearhead, as you cannot reserve it and have it make it on the board alive.


that seems to be what they are saying.

will only have an effect on apoc games. wont have an effect on regular games.

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DeathReaper wrote:will only have an effect on apoc games. wont have an effect on regular games.
And Necron players.

Or at least the one I play with regularly. He measured his monolith to be slightly over 6" square.

/shrug

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sure, but show me where a deepstriking vehicle that can shove enemy models out of the way is going to have a hard time making it onto the board...

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If you declare them deepstriking, sure.

And do not mind deepstriking them.

Or never play Dawn of War missions.

Heck, even in apoc there are ways around the issues.

Disallowing them from moving on normally is strange, regardless.

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Ailaros wrote:sure, but show me where a deepstriking vehicle that can shove enemy models out of the way is going to have a hard time making it onto the board...


Challenge accepted!

A board with small piece of impassible terrain evenly spaced across the entire board with 5" gaps.

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Ailaros wrote:sure, but show me where a deepstriking vehicle that can shove enemy models out of the way is going to have a hard time making it onto the board...
That is like telling this guy to bring his White Scars SC, Khan:


There are times Deepstrike is not valid--note: Monolith Deepstrike is only allowed when missions permit it just as there are times SC are disallowed.

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I just measured my Armourcast made Baneblade and it is 9" long by 7" wide so there's no way to bring it on the board in the normal manner.

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Leo_the_Rat wrote:I just measured my Forgeworld made Baneblade and it is 9" long by 7" wide so there's no way to bring it on the board in the normal manner.


Well, the Baneblade isn't 6" tall, so you could drive it in on it's side.

(Yes, this is silly, but it should work to counteract anyone being TFG who claims Baneblades in reserves are auto-destroyed. )
   
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Grakmar wrote:Well, the Baneblade isn't 6" tall, so you could drive it in on it's side.
LOL

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Grakmar wrote:Well, the Baneblade isn't 6" tall, so you could drive it in on it's side.

(Yes, this is silly, but it should work to counteract anyone being TFG who claims Baneblades in reserves are auto-destroyed. )


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Okay, we've got the tank on its side, now, how do we get it onto the battlefield?

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I thought that there was something in the rulebook stating that if a unit had to move farther than its normal movement that it would move 'hull on' and stop for its movement. But here I am leafing through my rulebook and I can't seem to find anything. Anyone know what I'm talking about or did my friends and I house rule this?

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oadie wrote:
themrsleepy wrote:Q: If only some of the models in a unit have the Stealth
special rule, does the whole unit benefit from the +1 cover
save? (p76)
A: Yes. In effect the ones with the Stealth special rule
ensure their colleagues also find good places to hide.

This is a boost to Necrons! OMG! The destroyer lord teamed with scarabs now has a 2+ turbo boosting cover save of his very own! I'm amazed......
I didn't even realize that this could help Necrons. I assumed it was meant to clear up the debate about Telion/camo cloaks in scout squads. The combo you presented seems like an accidental allowance, honestly. It makes no damn sense, even if you acknowledge GW's propensity for allowing minor logical inconsistencies in the pursuit of rules-streamlining.


Yep and now my Tomb Spyder has a 3+ cover save thanks to the scarabs!
   
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Kurgash wrote:
oadie wrote:
themrsleepy wrote:Q: If only some of the models in a unit have the Stealth
special rule, does the whole unit benefit from the +1 cover
save? (p76)
A: Yes. In effect the ones with the Stealth special rule
ensure their colleagues also find good places to hide.

This is a boost to Necrons! OMG! The destroyer lord teamed with scarabs now has a 2+ turbo boosting cover save of his very own! I'm amazed......
I didn't even realize that this could help Necrons. I assumed it was meant to clear up the debate about Telion/camo cloaks in scout squads. The combo you presented seems like an accidental allowance, honestly. It makes no damn sense, even if you acknowledge GW's propensity for allowing minor logical inconsistencies in the pursuit of rules-streamlining.


Yep and now my Tomb Spyder has a 3+ cover save thanks to the scarabs!

Add a destroyer lord to that and now you have a three to four model unit of T6 to shoot at and a 3+ cover save as you hide those tiny scarabs!

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themrsleepy wrote:I thought that there was something in the rulebook stating that if a unit had to move farther than its normal movement that it would move 'hull on' and stop for its movement. But here I am leafing through my rulebook and I can't seem to find anything. Anyone know what I'm talking about or did my friends and I house rule this?

It's a common house rule, but that's about it.

 
   
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kirsanth wrote:
DeathReaper wrote:will only have an effect on apoc games. wont have an effect on regular games.
And Necron players.

Or at least the one I play with regularly. He measured his monolith to be slightly over 6" square.

/shrug


If i were necron, I would shave my monoliths down to 6" square :-)

They are not much bigger than that anyway.

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BuFFo wrote:
So I won't cut and paste the same thing over and over. FAQs are still house rules, and always will be.


I'll just note that they're CURRENTLY house rules, but have not always been so. No reason to think they won't change back to "official" rules again someday.

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